Would that be the same AI that brought in Caicedo, MacAllister etc as part of all the players they sold for, let's have a guess, around £200m twelve months earlier?
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Would that be the same AI that brought in Caicedo, MacAllister etc as part of all the players they sold for, let's have a guess, around £200m twelve months earlier?
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Sheffield Wednesday owner Chansiri has invested in AI machine
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A system that applies to every pro club. not everyone gets that much to spend
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The first sentence killed my lawn, by the third sentence it had learnt.
Why it decided to switch from the Metric as asked in the question to Imperial only AI knows...
Underneath every Google AI preview it now says...........
AI responses may include mistakes.
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I think if you look at their overall model, there aren't many football clubs that wouldn't swap.
That said, there'll always be a strong correlation between who spends the most money and who's the most successful.
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dont say that to man utd fans
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very strong about 83.45638 per cent , roughly
The first sentence killed my lawn, by the third sentence it had learnt.
Why it decided to switch from the Metric as asked in the question to Imperial only AI knows...
Underneath every Google AI preview it now says...........
AI responses may include mistakes.
AI does make mistakes because it has to learn from something.
It learns from base material that can include mistakes but the AI behind search engines and ChatGPT and the likes are also learning from interactions with people.
It’s been known to do stuff like read across pages and ignore columns in newspapers or text books which has lead to some very interesting responses.
I’m not an expert by any means but using it almost daily in the work place and it’s extreamly powerful but I personally can’t see it replacing the human brain and don’t believe for one second that we are going to be signing players for the first team and picking the team using solely AI. I reckon we’ll be shortlisting using AI and then human scouting afterwards we may use the stats to choose between target 1 and target 2.
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No. They got that much to spend because their data models found players that were undervalued and sold them for enormous profits. Don't have a cry about it when they reinvest that money trying to do the same thing again
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That response is as good as the question asked. Whoever asked it got a linear measure (metres) mixed up with a quantity per area required. The response of 100lb of Epsom salt would work for a garden approx 100m x 20m but because that information wasn't provided, AI has messed up the answer.
The first sentence killed my lawn, by the third sentence it had learnt.
Why it decided to switch from the Metric as asked in the question to Imperial only AI knows...
Underneath every Google AI preview it now says...........
AI responses may include mistakes.
The point about imperial and metric is fairly straightforward: the model has sourced its information from a US-based website.
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Good to see Epsom Salts is back on the grass, though, could be in contention for the start of the season …
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not crying about it but improving and advancing only comes with being the biggest nett spenders, which is what Brighton are
Barry Bannan will be appearing with a full head of hair in the new season... the only transfer they will make
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How did they get themselves to the position of being able to spend that sort of money?
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ITS STILL NETT SPEND , IE MORE THAN THEY SOLD
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Selling McCallister to Liverpool helped a lot and the sales of Sanchez and Caicado to Chelsea. That was around £175mil in just three sales in one season.
The season before that they sold Moupay, Cucerella and Bissouma for around £96mil.
They sign a lot of young up and coming players and release a lot every summer. Ruthless, but that's the risk you take signings for them.
As unpopular as it may be as Blades fans don't like selling players "typical club, always selling our best players. No ambition," etc, etc, this is the model we're trying to follow now.
The only player we've had recently who could have been sold for a fee significant enough to help shop in the summer was Ndiaye, and we didn't get the full value for him due to the contract situation.
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It’s spend from profits they made on player sales previously. Players that they identified through data, developed and then sold for huge profits. It isn’t difficult to understand.
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Out of interest Bissouma signed for Brighton aged 22 from Lille where he wasn't a regular player.
Cucerella signed from Getafe aged 23 where he wasn't a regular.
McCallister signed from Argentinos Juniors (Argentinian League) aged 18.
Sanchez signed for them at 15 and came through their academy.
Caceido signed for them from Independiente del Valle (Ecuador League) aged 20.
They plucked these players from obscurity based on potential. Given that two of these came from the top flights in Ecuador and Argentina, maybe Peru and Bulgaria might not seem as mad as it sounds for finding potential gems.
Cucerella signed from Getafe aged 23 where he wasn't a regular.
McCallister signed from Argentinos Juniors (Argentinian League) aged 18.
Sanchez signed for them at 15 and came through their academy.
Caceido signed for them from Independiente del Valle (Ecuador League) aged 20.
They plucked these players from obscurity based on potential. Given that two of these came from the top flights in Ecuador and Argentina, maybe Peru and Bulgaria might not seem as mad as it sounds for finding potential gems.
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No need to shout
It’s spend from profits they made on player sales previously. Players that they identified through data, developed and then sold for huge profits. It isn’t difficult to understand.
Niether is the fact that if you invest 200m more than you make from sales you can get in better players
if they took what theyd made and only spent 5m more nett they wouldnt look so good
when we sell players we by being not so well off rarely if ever have an excess nett spend
we sell someone for 20m to spend 10 to 15 , it isnt too difficult to understand that
It’s not difficult to understand that it’s not £200m pumped in by their ownership.
It’s £200 million they made in previous seasons from player sales that they’ve now decided to invest.
Their spend was the biggest net spend because their sales happened in a different time period to what was measured. NOT because they decided to pump £200 million of fresh money into the club.
You’re trying to make a point but missing the most important factor. They spent £200m because they made it previously.
Half of the money was from Caicedo. Who they sold to Chelsea for £100 million in August 2023 and had not spent that money.
Net spend is reported season by season.
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I believe we should be using it more and in every area we possibly can.
We should be monitoring each players vitals and sending that data in realtime to an AI who can analyse it on the fly.
We should be tracking our players position at all times and during key moments of play have that data played back for further analysis and training.
There is honestly so much that can be done in this area. I’m really interested in the realtime capabilities but the important thing to consider with AI is the trope of garbage in, garbage out.
If our AI is seemingly identifying two players from the same team in the second division in Bulgaria then id argue there’s some garbage going into our AI model(s).
We should be monitoring each players vitals and sending that data in realtime to an AI who can analyse it on the fly.
We should be tracking our players position at all times and during key moments of play have that data played back for further analysis and training.
There is honestly so much that can be done in this area. I’m really interested in the realtime capabilities but the important thing to consider with AI is the trope of garbage in, garbage out.
If our AI is seemingly identifying two players from the same team in the second division in Bulgaria then id argue there’s some garbage going into our AI model(s).
Around $6Bn is traded each day on markets , around 70 to 80 % is Algorithmic.
Does AI run the world economy? Possibly/ probably .
We worry about it identifying a few football players with the highest chance of training on than others .
It would be an interesting experiment to have an AI club , Acquisition, team selection , tactics , substitutions .
Not suggesting I'd like to see it , but just how far off that are we?
Does AI run the world economy? Possibly/ probably .
We worry about it identifying a few football players with the highest chance of training on than others .
It would be an interesting experiment to have an AI club , Acquisition, team selection , tactics , substitutions .
Not suggesting I'd like to see it , but just how far off that are we?
And to follow up on Brighton.
Despite their spends recently - over the last 5 years they are still £39m in transfer profit.
Bloom genius shown by Brighton five-year net spend figures
Despite spending £193m in the summer transfer window, Brighton still have a net spend surplus for their dealings over the past five years
www.wearebrighton.com
Net spent is fucking useless when just looking at 1 window or 1 season.
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The first sentence killed my lawn, by the third sentence it had learnt.
Why it decided to switch from the Metric as asked in the question to Imperial only AI knows...
Underneath every Google AI preview it now says...........
AI responses may include mistakes.
Your conversation with AI:
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how am I missing it when the Guardian report claims its Brighton who have nett spent 200m more than sales
yes theyve done well developing players but spending 200m on top of what they sold is what the Guardian reports , the highest in the prem not something Im being ignorant of as you imply
if you dont believe the report fine, but its not me claiming it
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