How Footballs changed since the last Coronation

[Willie Carlin]

The first foreign club side I saw on tv at that time was Moscow Dynamo. Wolves were a top side at that time and Billy Wright the England captain was also their captain.

 

[Willie Carlin]

Main changes:

#Three points for a win introduced.

#Keeper handling from back pass outlawed.

#Play-offs introduced (previously top three got promoted)

#VAR introduced in top division.

#Subs allowed.

#Stadiums must be all-seater in top two divisions. Alcohol banned in view of pitch.

#Promotion and relegation to and from 4th tier introduced (as opposed to a vote)

#Regular European football introduced, with top teams in top flight and cup winners qualifying.

#Clubs take control of top division. It is renamed 'Premiership' then later 'Premier League'. All other divisions renamed as a result.

#Multiple games live on TV every week

Any more?

At one time if the goalie was stood up players of the opposition could shoulder charge him. When the goalie got the ball in the area he had to keep on the floor until one of his defenders came to defend him. This ruled altered when Bolton’s centre forward Nat Lofthouse shoulder charged Harry Gregg the Man Utd goalie into the net. A goal was given. This happened in the Cup final at Wembley.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

The only live games on TV, were the cup final and junior indoor 5 aside football on a Sunday afternoon....

 

[Silent Blade]

The first foreign club side I saw on tv at that time was Moscow Dynamo. Wolves were a top side at that time and Billy Wright the England captain was also their captain.

Honved was before Moscow Dynamo

 

[Richeee]

All games kicked off at 3pm Saturday no Sunday games

 

[Revolution]

Honved was before Moscow Dynamo

Moscow Dynamo came and toured in 1945, well before Honved, though I don’t think the games from that tour were on TV.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

All games kicked off at 3pm Saturday no Sunday games

As I recall , most games kicked off at 2pm . rather than 3 .

Since many grounds didn’t have floodlights at the time , a 4.45 finish would have been much too late in the Winter period .

 

[Silent Blade]

Moscow Dynamo came and toured in 1945, well before Honved, though I don’t think the games from that tour were on TV.

Honved were the first foreign club in England that played in a live televised match. George Best was A Wolves fan when he was young and recalled watching the match on TV at a friend's house

 

[Bert]

Half time lasted 10 minutes.

Games ended at 5.40pm or 9.10pm.

 

[Danny_Blade]

Half time lasted 10 minutes.

Games ended at 5.40pm or 9.10pm.

Don't you mean 4:40pm?

 

[Bert]

Don't you mean 4:40pm?

Yes

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Last week when I was watching the last Coronation, I noted the Champions League the tune played as The Queen was crowned. Genuinely interested to see if it's used again

The coronation song is ‘Zadok the Priest’ (by Handel). The Champions League song is a commissioned sound-a-like, written in1992.

Zadok was a Coronation Anthem written by Handel for the coronation of George II, it has been used at every coronation since and no doubt for Charles III, whenever the deed is done.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Think prices have gone up a bit. Back in 53 I got in for thrupence ha'penny and still had change for a horse and cart ride home and a lump of coal to chew on.

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

At one time if the goalie was stood up players of the opposition could shoulder charge him. When the goalie got the ball in the area he had to keep on the floor until one of his defenders came to defend him. This ruled altered when Bolton’s centre forward Nat Lofthouse shoulder charged Harry Gregg the Man Utd goalie into the net. A goal was given. This happened in the Cup final at Wembley.

That Lofthouse goal should never have been allowed - even then. Greggy parried a stinger from Stevens and the ball shot up into the air; Harry jumped to catch it, spun round as he landed and Lofty crunched him in the back - a clear example of GBH. The season before that the Busby Babes played Villa in the Final and Peter Macparland (Villa's left winger - always a No. 11 shirt back then) assaulted Ray Woods to leave him in a crumpled heap - again should never have been allowed, but footy was pretty brutal in those days.

After you had blown up the thick rubber balloon inside the leather case with your Bicycle pump using your special screw in brass connection, you would use it to refasten the lace...

Lacing up the casey was something every lad could do, but you had to try and bend the neck of the bladder and fit the rubber band in such a way as to stop it deflating but at the same time not create a knotty bulge that would sit under the lace and lacerate your forehead when you were daft enough to head it.

Not being able to afford to replace the ball (ten a penny these days) you'd make 'em last forever, but after absorbing so much water (even with dubbin liberally applied) they'd eventually expand in dry weather (played on baked mud till late Spring/early Summer) and behave like a Beachball. The big lads who'd kick the shit out of you during the Winter months hated playing with a light ball on hard pitches 'cause they often didn't have the skill level required to control the ball, and when there was no longer any mud to plough through they couldn't catch you anyway.

Happy days.......no cars parked on your street so you could play till after dark (just as long as you didn't stray too far from t'gaslamps).

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Got my first Casey in 1949 and an Arsenal shirt with white shorts. I was told they couldn't get a United shirt for love nor money,
(Often wondered since, did United sell replica shirts back then?)

 

[VM198]

Old case balls varied in weight depending whether they were wet or not. A dry ball was quite light but not any were near todays balls.

All Football League games were played with new balls, which had a coating. The coating would stop absorption of water over the 90 minutes.
A well used ball would absorb water/moisture when the original coating wore off.
Weren't they great, wet, when heading back an opposition goal kick or long clearance, especially when you got the lace and it wasn't very competently threaded.

 

[VM198]

Got my first Casey in 1949 and an Arsenal shirt with white shorts. I was told they couldn't get a United shirt for love nor money,
(Often wondered since, did United sell replica shirts back then?)

Lucky bugger, my first shirt around the same time were blue, bloody BLUE, wi' white sleeves and collar, from a family who'd watched the blade since the 1890's.
There had been a war though, bet we weren't the only lads to be glad but yet so disappointed.
Few years later, when able to go to town alone got some sox, black, red/white turn over tops from Hagan & Brook's shop on London Rd., be 53/54 season but no Blades shirts available at that time.

 

[VM198]

Think prices have gone up a bit. Back in 53 I got in for thrupence ha'penny and still had change for a horse and cart ride home and a lump of coal to chew on.

Silkstone seam, din't leave ye wi a black tongue.

 

[CornwallBlade]

We got replacement bladders for the caseys from Archers on Bramall Lane, which was opposite where the petrol station is now.

Every time one of our gang came back off summer holiday, they'd bring a plastic ball their Dad bought while away for kicking around on the beach. This would last 2 or 3 days 'til it went in one of the hawthorn hedges that were plentiful on the Gleadless Valley, where it would obviously bust. The thorn would come out, and we'd go in someone's house to heat up a spoon on the gas ring to melt the plastic around it to weld over the hole. That sometimes worked, but not for long.

Oh, and kids could actually just go out and play a game on any grassed areas. Sometimes 20 a-side. They didn't have to be 'taken to football practice' by parents....

Endcliffe Park. We’d turn up with a ball, three of us and within 30 minutes it would be a full blown match - with, of course, jumpers for goalposts, that would last hours.

 

[CornwallBlade]

Main changes:

#Three points for a win introduced.

#Keeper handling from back pass outlawed.

#Play-offs introduced (previously top three got promoted)

#VAR introduced in top division.

#Subs allowed.

#Stadiums must be all-seater in top two divisions. Alcohol banned in view of pitch.

#Promotion and relegation to and from 4th tier introduced (as opposed to a vote)

#Regular European football introduced, with top teams in top flight and cup winners qualifying.

#Clubs take control of top division. It is renamed 'Premiership' then later 'Premier League'. All other divisions renamed as a result.

#Multiple games live on TV every week

Any more?

Shoulder charges!

 

[CornwallBlade]

All games kicked off at 3pm Saturday no Sunday games

“Live” results service was boards with letters of the alphabet around the side of the ground with cricket scoreboard numbers dedicating the score. Each match in the division was designated a letter which was published it The programme. T’internet?! Tha doesn’t know tha’s born yooth

 

[Dkc]

Before Sky people used to gather in pubs to listen to radio commentary of games, and the football results at 5pm on Saturday

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Before Sky people used to gather in pubs to listen to radio commentary of games, and the football results at 5pm on Saturday

Da da da; da da da da da; da da da da da da daaaah............da da da da da daaah.......

 

[BushBlade]

Before Sky people used to gather in pubs to listen to radio commentary of games, and the football results at 5pm on Saturday

That must have been for a short period of time as pubs used to close at 3.00 while 5.30.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Main changes:

#Three points for a win introduced.

#Keeper handling from back pass outlawed.

#Play-offs introduced (previously top three got promoted)

#VAR introduced in top division.

#Subs allowed.

#Stadiums must be all-seater in top two divisions. Alcohol banned in view of pitch.

#Promotion and relegation to and from 4th tier introduced (as opposed to a vote)

#Regular European football introduced, with top teams in top flight and cup winners qualifying.

#Clubs take control of top division. It is renamed 'Premiership' then later 'Premier League'. All other divisions renamed as a result.

#Multiple games live on TV every week

Any more?

So Her Maj has done some good stuff, but had a lot to answer for too.
Let's hope Charly gets VAR sorted and we can start to get behind him.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Before Sky people used to gather in pubs to listen to radio commentary of games, and the football results at 5pm on Saturday

Bloody hell !!!...
It must a been posh up your way, It were allus wireless weer I lived

Mind, come to think on it, it still is in our house.....

 

[tyke1889]

That must have been for a short period of time as pubs used to close at 3.00 while 5.30.

Shut'dooors and call it a club

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

That must have been for a short period of time as pubs used to close at 3.00 while 5.30.

Made me chuckle, drives the Cockney Mrs SEB mad when I use it in that time context.

 

[Katzenjammer]

If the past 30 years are anything to go by, it's probably exponentially fucking worse.

Beyond Sheffield United, I have little to no remaining interest in the wider game, except for keeping tabs on a couple of local non-league sides.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Endcliffe Park. We’d turn up with a ball, three of us and within 30 minutes it would be a full blown match - with, of course, jumpers for goalposts, that would last hours.

Especially Friday evenings. If there was a lad in goal who never let a goal in, that was me