How are we managing to keep clean sheets without Doyle starting?
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Not against the likes of Scunny no.....but against good sides, yes we really do.
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Bashambauer is winning headers for fun atm. He also put in a couple of great tackles in dangerous situations. He's making a big difference.
The Beard's doing a good job too
And Turner isn't throwing it into his own net. Though he did flap at one like an injured bird tonight.
The Beard's doing a good job too
And Turner isn't throwing it into his own net. Though he did flap at one like an injured bird tonight.
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You will realise just how much [over a season and against different opposition] when he's not there.
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If the quality is there across the pitch you can do without a defensive midfielder, it's like playing with 10men if they offer little going forward. He does have a big role to play and he's won me over in the past 12-18 months.
We don't need him against most sides in this league, i personally think this is very obvious. What has happened in the past is Clough hasn't played Doyle for one game, we struggled in that game or didn't get the result required, then because of this he goes straight back into the team instead of leaving him out for a couple of games and letting the midfield get some continuity without him, which would see us get better and better in that department as we have evidently seen tonight, albeit against weaker opposition, which coincidently is the whole point.
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I think it is sad that people think we need a player like Doyle to get a result.
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Maybe it's Brayford / Basham at the back that's helped. With his pace in the center we can play 10-15 yards further up the pitch, and Basham's is lot more comanding in the air.
Two strong center halves can do wonders for a teams overall performance, its the foundation of the team and has a knock on affect on everything. Look at how much Man United and Liverpool struggled this season until they finally got a settled back line / or a back line that complemented each other. Same goes for Arsenal, they were crap when they were faffing round with playing Chambers and Monreal at center half.
Two strong center halves can do wonders for a teams overall performance, its the foundation of the team and has a knock on affect on everything. Look at how much Man United and Liverpool struggled this season until they finally got a settled back line / or a back line that complemented each other. Same goes for Arsenal, they were crap when they were faffing round with playing Chambers and Monreal at center half.
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Absolutely Boo. There is far too much obsession with formations and roles.
Midfielder - the clue is in the title. You keep the ball you pass it with purpose. If the other side have it you press and suffocate the life out of them. Bullocks to nonsense like AM and DM. It's the Montgomery job description - no talent needed. A licence to do half a job; A charter for shadow-chasers. We are told we only miss them when they're gone. I don't miss Monty one jot and I won't miss Doyle.
Down with this sort of thing.
Midfielder - the clue is in the title. You keep the ball you pass it with purpose. If the other side have it you press and suffocate the life out of them. Bullocks to nonsense like AM and DM. It's the Montgomery job description - no talent needed. A licence to do half a job; A charter for shadow-chasers. We are told we only miss them when they're gone. I don't miss Monty one jot and I won't miss Doyle.
Down with this sort of thing.
boo radley
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I do think you cannot suggest people get stuck with positions too much (I agree by the way) but then keep suggesting the fixed vision you have of Monty. Monty was 10x the player of Doyle. He had the footballer eked out of him because managers saw the 'Stopper' in him as more valuable to them.
Monty ripped shreds from Ashley Cole at times in the semi. and got injured playing in the 2nd leg against Liverpool and was running that game as anyone on the pitch. When he came back from injury he had the freedom stifled out of him in favour of this stopping roll. He was never going to be a world conquering midfielder but should have been better than as you see him. A midfielder should be getting in the oppositions box from time to time. I cannot remember the last time Doyle took that chance or risk. If Doyle took that risk occasionally it is up to others to cover and he would look a far better player for it. We're in the third Div for Gods sake and teams were that classical about breaking and scoring I'd change my mind.
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Did you honestly keep a straight face when typing this?
GRUMPY BLADE
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Monty with his laces tied together and wearing a blindfold would still be better than this 3rd division (some with potential agreed) squad.
LSF
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One decent win without MD starting and the lynch mob are out in force. Lol!
Pinchy
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The solution to an age old mystery is finally revealed! Thank goodness for that. I was quite sure he was a shadow-chasing non-footballer but now I understand.
I blame Blackwell.
Pinchy
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Quite. He was significantly poorer but not ten times as bad.
boo radley
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Don't think anyone wants to lynch him. Most appreciate the work he puts in,in difficult patches of the game. I do think his game would benefit though if we put those two full size training goals on the half way line at 90 degrees to the proper goals. He may actually turn and run through the centre circle towards the opposition goal then.
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Fulwood Blade
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It is a myth to think you need a deep lying midfield player in every team.
All that type of player does is protect "poor" defenders.
If everyone did their job properly then that type of player is not needed. 2 CH's with pace also negates that type of player.
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Monty doing a credible Pele impersonation. Who'd have thunk it
Fulwood Blade
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I liked Monty for his 100% commitment and endeavour - but he couldn't pass to save his life.
Doyle is a bit square pass, but at least he can pass - as for Monty, I remember one game where he had the ball in centre mid and passed it to one of two other Blades players stood about 5 metre apart....he passed it between them! - Bless.
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Doyle has the best engine in the team despite his age. He is the best talker and leader in the team. He covers more ground than anyone in the team. He is the most agressive and best tackler in the team. The best fighter in the team.
When we don't need all those qualities we don't need him. OK he's fairly limited with the ball but we have players who are limited in all those areas mentioned above amongst our set of lightweight look-alikes.
When we don't need all those qualities we don't need him. OK he's fairly limited with the ball but we have players who are limited in all those areas mentioned above amongst our set of lightweight look-alikes.
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I don't believe he covers more ground then scougall,holt and reed.
Suppose he might be the best talker(none of our team seem to be shouters or vocal leaders).
People say his positioning is good, but you're never going to be out of position when you don't move forward the whole game.
I personally think Basham is a much better tackler,has much more presence and has far more quality on the ball.
Frank Lampard?
What are the others?
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