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Fulwood Blade said:
what from the Kippax? - don't think knew what sarcasm was.
They were the first I knew about who "offered" to look after your car at away games though..........

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You paid that toll to the young scally's at Maine Rd or either of the score clubs or the car/ mini bus got fuckin trashed ..
 
Violence at football is a sad state affairs.

Biggest bug bear is hearing people try and use 'cool' holigan terminology - you don't sound cool you sound like a prick.

What I find a massive shame is how pubs have the necessity to be home or away fans only. Some of the best aspects of match days is having beers and football chats with supporters of other clubs.
 
John Street West Terrace said:
Gotta be a star jumper in the wardrobe too FB lol .. I'm just laughing pal same match day fashion kit as my 2 older brothers
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I can never remember Star Jumpers being really "fashionable" Popular maybe but generally looked on as a bit divvy, like monkey boots. Seemed to be popular when the Northern Soul Scene boomed commercially but I don't recall many ever wearing them at all nighters. Wigans fucking ovation wore the monstrosities on TOTP in 1975 and it went downhill from there.
 
Fulwood Blade said:
depends which side you were - but can see where you are coming from.
If you wanted a ruck, it was readily available - no arranging by phone/social media etc - you turrned up and if met with a rival "firm" it just happened.

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Thats about it nobody died and we didnt involve innocents the thought of women and kids getting involved turns my guts.
 
Sean Thornton said:
I can never remember Star Jumpers being really "fashionable" Popular maybe but generally looked on as a bit divvy, like monkey boots. Seemed to be popular when the Northern Soul Scene boomed commercially but I don't recall many ever wearing them at all nighters. Wigans fucking ovation wore the monstrosities on TOTP in 1975 and it went downhill from there.
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I was just a mischievous little un at the time ST I'm far from a conisseur of early & mid 70s fashion , my eldest brother used to go to some of the Northern Soul all nighters & we still take the piss out of each other for some of our previous fashion faux pas & hair cuts old photos have a lot to answer for ! My first real dabble was with the mod and ska scene of the late seventies & early 80's & then onto the casual scene from 83 onwards , music & football always been intertwined I've met loads of other football lads at gigs , festivals ,clubs over the years , I still enjoy now gonna to a good Ska night or some of the scooter weekends with the lads even though nowadays I'm minus a scooter !
But I've also been to some the NS do's with older lads I knock about with .. and I'll diplomatically say not my scene , as they would at some of mine
 
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. Some of the best aspects of match days is having beers and football chats with supporters of other clubs.[/QUOTE]
Yea we chatting away to some Leicester fans in a boozer on London Bridge Millwall game season before last one of them got a
bit disrespectful gobbing off and the balloon went up.
 
John Street West Terrace said:
I was just a mischievous little un at the time ST I'm far from a conisseur of early & mid 70s fashion , my eldest brother used to go to some of the Northern Soul all nighters & we still take the piss out of each other for some of our previous fashion faux pas & hair cuts old photos have a lot to answer for ! My first real dabble was with the mod and ska scene of the late seventies & early 80's & then onto the casual scene from 83 onwards , music & football always been intertwined I've met loads of other football lads at gigs , festivals ,clubs over the years , I still enjoy now gonna to a good Ska night or some of the scooter weekends with the lads even though nowadays I'm minus a scooter !
But I've also been to some the NS do's with older lads I knock about with .. and I'll diplomatically say not my scene , as they would at some of mine
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Believe it not there are still plenty of late fifties early sixty year olds going out at weekends wearing a vest and baggy trousers. Women spinning in circle skirts showing varicose veins. Imagine corned beef with hairs. Pork pie style hats are in vogue at the moment as well. Sadly no one looks remotely like one of the Rat Pack did.

It's no wonder young people are giving the oldies/retro nights a miss.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Believe it not there are still plenty of late fifties early sixty year olds going out at weekends wearing a vest and baggy trousers. Women spinning in circle skirts showing varicose veins. Imagine corned beef with hairs. Pork pie style hats are in vogue at the moment as well. Sadly no one looks remotely like one of the Rat Pack did.

It's no wonder young people are giving the oldies/retro nights a miss.
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I've seen em pal !!!!
 
CarlMcBlade said:
The cowardly cunts find it amusing to terrorise catering staff theses days. The trend for trashing concourses at away grounds makes my fucking teeth squeak.
The silly twats make more noise at half time than they do encouraging the lads from the stands.
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Yeah this has been grinding my gears for a few years.

Needlessly abuse youngsters selling pies for minimum wage, trash what you can including air conditioning units.

I've no problem at all with the singing and dancing at half time but it's all about getting videos on social media rather than backing the team. They're leaving the stand during the first half to get into position, and then after making a racket whilst the players are off the pitch, eventually come back second half and don't make half as much noise backing the team.
 
Lane Ender said:
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Yea we chatting away to some Leicester fans in a boozer on London Bridge Millwall game season before last one of them got a
bit disrespectful gobbing off and the balloon went up.[/QUOTE]
Came back minus coach windows on London Bridge in 84 at old den courtesy of Millwall ,they all disappeared about 15 mins from end and re-appeared on there with half a building site , the unwanted air con all the way back north
If we're down at Charlton / Millwall now always go for a few jars other side of Bridge in Billingsgate
 

cahill said:
Get hold of the book " Knowing the Score", an academic work by, coincidentally, a Sheffield United supporter. He takes, primarily a sociological, social anthropological look at what makes these people tick, where they come from, why they do it etc

Author is called Armstrong. He probably comes on here
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A lot of the book is bullshit ,I should know because we fed him the stories in a pub near Highbury when we were convinced he wasn't undercover plod
 
sitwell said:
A lot of the book is bullshit ,I should know because we fed him the stories in a pub near Highbury when we were convinced he wasn't undercover plod
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I was under the impression that the book was based upon a couple of years ' field work ' ?

Fuck me , he got a Doctorate on the basis of that book . He's a fraud :cool:
 
Lane Ender said:
Thats about it nobody died and we didnt involve innocents the thought of women and kids getting involved turns my guts.
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I don't know which events you are referring to, but if there had not been violence between groups of fans, we would not have had fencing round pitches, and the Hillsborough disaster would not have happened. I know many other factors were involved, but that basic cause and effect was part of it.
 
Sean Thornton said:
I can never remember Star Jumpers being really "fashionable" Popular maybe but generally looked on as a bit divvy, like monkey boots. Seemed to be popular when the Northern Soul Scene boomed commercially but I don't recall many ever wearing them at all nighters. Wigans fucking ovation wore the monstrosities on TOTP in 1975 and it went downhill from there.
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good work pal ;)
 
pommpey said:
So you reckon that this good crew could 'hold its ground' against one with a 'strong rep' over in say, Helmand province in Afghanistan, or even positions round central western Basra in Iraq, with local Shia militias and marauding Taleban raiding parties taking pot shots at them with RPGs and AK47s? I mean, there's medals and pay aplenty, good food, guns, top kit and the opportunity to tell your grandkids teal heroic tales rather than running away from similar dressed chavs in city centres or ten of you booting the fuck out of a student because he's the only target you can collectively muster the courage to 'take on '

You make hooliganism sound so exciting and chivalrous, feller, like it actually has some sort or purpose in today's society and football as a sport.

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sitwell said:
A lot of the book is bullshit ,I should know because we fed him the stories in a pub near Highbury when we were convinced he wasn't undercover plod
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If you've read it you'll know that it's not really a " never been done" " never been run" type of porno book but an academic treatise.
 
cahill said:
If you've read it you'll know that it's not really a " never been done" " never been run" type of porno book but an academic treatise.
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Of course Ive bloody read it ,but the stories in it are cobblers. Armstrong had a couple of years of hanging around and not being accepted by most ,it was the time of Springett and Clouseau and I still think he had an unhelpful relationship with them.
 
pommpey said:
Nope. You asked about 'good crew', 'holding ground' and 'strong rep' like you know what you're talking about, rather than 'fucking observations'.

I'm not accusing you of anything. I am saying you make it sound like it's something worthy. I suggest there are more worthy warriors and the 'crews' 'holding ground' against 'strong rep' hooligans don't have the potatoes to go and do some real fighting, hence they won't sign up for such a 'gig' and make do with terrorising kids, women, shirters and students and legging it at the first sign of opposition.

Oh, and I doubt you'll see squaddies throwing bricks and bottles randomly at families walking home from a football match. It's not in their JD, see?

And your last comment is a bit non-sequitur. You want to open that discussion again, rather than defend the 'fucking observations'?

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Nah. Can't be fuckin arsed pal. Maybe 24 hours ago but life has moved on since. Anyway ,what the fucks it got to do with you,you don't even go.
 
Sean Thornton said:
I can never remember Star Jumpers being really "fashionable" Popular maybe but generally looked on as a bit divvy, like monkey boots. Seemed to be popular when the Northern Soul Scene boomed commercially but I don't recall many ever wearing them at all nighters. Wigans fucking ovation wore the monstrosities on TOTP in 1975 and it went downhill from there.
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Yep that's when it all come tumbling down it was embarrassing
I started Nether Edge , Samantha's, Blackpool Mecca, Wigan etc
Inter City Soul Club Top Rank what a joke.
Move on
 
Find it strange that as football fans we all have something in common and under normal circumstances we'd all get on and probably have a good chat about each others clubs if bumped in to someone in a boozer. Yet on a match day some just want to beat the shit out of eachother because we support different teams.
 

pommpey said:
All a bunch of base level, knuckle-dragging pricks in my humble.

The hoolies we knew back in the day were monstrous blokes who would go round, confront, get waded in and come away battered. This isn't hero worship - at the time they were revered but now to me with the benefit of hindsight and maturity they are as pointless as the bellends who smash up away facilities and show want for a dust up these days. There's a great conduit to show such bravado against people not aligned to your thoughts and beliefs. In fact, the government licenses it and gives you permission to don body armour, carry a rifle and kill in their name if need be. It's the Army. You won't find these no-marks anywhere near the real front line because as much as people slag the infantry units off for being brain dead cannon fodder, they possess more intelligence and integrity than the shower of dickless feeds who claim to represent the club and make the name of Sheffield United smell like dogshit because their lives are empty and meaningless.

Fuck them and the Transit Van they go to games in.

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Pomps, you and I often disagree but you're fucking spot on here. Ask any of our new breed to step into the trenches and they'd shit themselves before they even started running a mile!
 
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