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Didn’t really like Wilder’s response on it. I hope he isn’t letting this praise for straight talking go to his head. There’s being a straight shooter, and then there’s being provocative for the sake of it. He’s flirted with that a few times in the last month or so. Felt a bit unnecessary to me.
it was that or kick him in the bollocks.. tbf i felt like kicking him in the bollocks myself
 

Henderson recovered about 5 minutes later when he stopped Salah 1 on 1. We had more than enough to have got something from that game but didn’t take our chances again!

move on. Watford are next
 
If hendo looks at the slow mo he will see why the ball went in. He should have got a leg down behind his hands, its what goalies are taught as kids in the event the balls goes through the hands. On this occasion his right leg comes down but too late which suggests poor technique poss due to lack of concentration?
 
Only three teams have conceded less goals than us but thirteen have scored more. Perhaps we should focus our attention on the department that’s letting us down most, particularly as it’s the one we spent most money on in the summer.
 
Lets start with the bad points. He cost us the game today. Big clanger.

However, he is a legend at this club already so i'm sure he can bounce back.

Even pulled off a worldie from Salah straight after.

Gutted for him and he will be gutted the most.

Wilder will pick him and us up after that.

So unfortunate to lose. Should have had a draw at the very least.

UTB.

Yeah but he does it too bloody often.

Big players perform in the big games.

So he cost us 1-3 points against Leeds, 2 points v Villa and 1 point against Liverpool . All BIG games. Oh and there's the England Under-21's. It's not as if he fucked up against Wigan Bromwich Dons when we were winning 5-0 and a clanger made it 5-1 is it? And that is the point.

To my mind he's a bloody big bollox and at the end of his loan can sod off back to Thornton Heath for his pot of gold.

Bring back Alan Kelly and Trace. At least Trace fucked up when it didn't matter too much
 
Only three teams have conceded less goals than us but thirteen have scored more. Perhaps we should focus our attention on the department that’s letting us down most, particularly as it’s the one we spent most money on in the summer.
Wilder pointed this out in his interview, what about Fleck's mistake, and Leon's is what he asked.
 
Yeah but he does it too bloody often.

Big players perform in the big games.

So he cost us 1-3 points against Leeds, 2 points v Villa and 1 point against Liverpool . All BIG games. Oh and there's the England Under-21's. It's not as if he fucked up against Wigan Bromwich Dons when we were winning 5-0 and a clanger made it 5-1 is it? And that is the point.

To my mind he's a bloody big bollox and at the end of his loan can sod off back to Thornton Heath for his pot of gold.

Bring back Alan Kelly and Trace. At least Trace fucked up when it didn't matter too much
Can't tell if you're being serious or not 🤔 if you are then you need to grow up.
 
Yeah but he does it too bloody often.

Big players perform in the big games.

So he cost us 1-3 points against Leeds, 2 points v Villa and 1 point against Liverpool . All BIG games. Oh and there's the England Under-21's. It's not as if he fucked up against Wigan Bromwich Dons when we were winning 5-0 and a clanger made it 5-1 is it? And that is the point.

To my mind he's a bloody big bollox and at the end of his loan can sod off back to Thornton Heath for his pot of gold.

Bring back Alan Kelly and Trace. At least Trace fucked up when it didn't matter too much

What a load of shit.

Big games, clean sheet at Hillsborough when the twats resorted to dirty tricks (called leave it to the defender), the run around new year when we played loads of top 6 teams and came out in a great place.

West Brom and Leeds away clean sheets etc.

He earned us twice as many points as he lost us, and has already made some great saves this season.

Unless you're joking and in that case, well done, you got a nibble.

I can't tell anymore, that much shite on here after a game.
 
Its not just his three mistakes either.

Look at his distribution, did he actually find a blades player the whole match? Most of his kicks went to Liverpool, aimlessly upfield or out of play.

His command of the box is poor. Its very rare he comes out to claim the ball or punch it clear.

Yes, he can do some great saves. But thats one part of a goalies game.

If we stay up, we have to get better than him.
 
Lets start with the bad points. He cost us the game today. Big clanger.

However, he is a legend at this club already so i'm sure he can bounce back.

Even pulled off a worldie from Salah straight after.

Gutted for him and he will be gutted the most.

Wilder will pick him and us up after that.

So unfortunate to lose. Should have had a draw at the very least.

UTB.
Wilder ain’t picking him up after that he’s not as sentimental as some on here,he either becomes the safe pair of hands we need or gets dropped.
The save from he mades from Salah was good but did not make up for the cock up from a routine save as the damage was already done.
Must do better.
 
Wilder ain’t picking him up after that he’s not as sentimental as some on here,he either becomes the safe pair of hands we need or gets dropped.
The save from he mades from Salah was good but did not make up for the cock up from a routine save as the damage was already done.
Must do better.

Gotta think he's getting close to his last chance. Another error or two and gotta be looking at benching him.

The only thing is, I wouldn't trust Moore in the Prem and Verrips is a complete unknown quantity. Out of the two, I think I'd prefer Verrips... Moore we know isn't Prem level, Verrips could be.
 
Gotta think he's getting close to his last chance. Another error or two and gotta be looking at benching him.

The only thing is, I wouldn't trust Moore in the Prem and Verrips is a complete unknown quantity. Out of the two, I think I'd prefer Verrips... Moore we know isn't Prem level, Verrips could be.
You must have a real agenda against Henderson if your prepared to play a goalkeeper you’ve never seen play, have no idea of his strengths/weaknesses and no idea if he’s even premier league quality. It’s this kind of nonsense that makes me laugh about some of our ‘fans’
:rolleyes:
 

You must have a real agenda against Henderson if your prepared to play a goalkeeper you’ve never seen play, have no idea of his strengths/weaknesses and no idea if he’s even premier league quality. It’s this kind of nonsense that makes me laugh about some of our ‘fans’
:rolleyes:

If Hendo keeps making mistakes, youve got to bench him.

3 goals already he's at fault for. It's not good enough. That's without mentioning his other gaping flaws.
 
Or, lets look at it another way.

If Hendo played for another team. We would definitely be looking at him as a weak link.

If he was at Norwich or Villa, we would definitely be saying their keeper looks shaky.
 
He has saved us already this season. Kept us in the game at Chelsea.
But he had put us in the position of being down in the first place.

Every time he’s under pressure I have a niggling fear he’s going to cost us.

He’s young and a good lad, but could top keepers do not make this many errors. I can’t think of another whose made this many so far this season. Alan Kelly never did.
 
If Hendo keeps making mistakes, youve got to bench him.

3 goals already he's at fault for. It's not good enough. That's without mentioning his other gaping flaws.
3? Surely your not blaming him for Chelsea’s second. Down to JOC and Egan that one. If you are then that proves you have an agenda. Gaping flaws? You mean a few goalkicks? Be careful what you wish for. He’s the best keeper we have. FACT.
This Verrips keeper you want to replace him. Tell us more about what he’s like and how good he is
 
3? Surely your not blaming him for Chelsea’s second. Down to JOC and Egan that one. If you are then that proves you have an agenda. Gaping flaws? You mean a few goalkicks? Be careful what you wish for. He’s the best keeper we have. FACT.
This Verrips keeper you want to replace him. Tell us more about what he’s like and how good he is

He got a hand to it. If a keeper gets a hand to a shot, unless its a rocket, he should keep it out.

Tammy's shot was hardly a rocket. Hendo showed weak hands. Most keepers would have kept it out. Look at it objectively, if we scored that against say Watford, we'd have been saying keeper should have done better.

Learn to read. 1 - I said Verrips is a complete unknown. 2 - I said IF Hendo keeps making mistakes he should be dropped.

You may have a hard on for him, but fact is, he's slap bang average. Potential, yes. In 5 or 6 years he could be a great keeper. But that wont keep us up now.
 
Goalkeepers peak at 30/31 so he is young. Lloris dropped a bollock today. It happens. He needs to knuckle down. He has the potential to be an England keeper. Just needs to prove it.
Buuuuuuullshit stop making excuses for him. Jordan Pickford was playing for England when 23yr old, Jack Butland played for England at 19yr old so why do we trot out the old excuse that goalkeepers don't peak till 30yr old. Henderson will have a very good career but he ain't going to be picked for England or Man utd any time soon.
 
Yeah but he does it too bloody often.

Big players perform in the big games.

So he cost us 1-3 points against Leeds, 2 points v Villa and 1 point against Liverpool . All BIG games. Oh and there's the England Under-21's. It's not as if he fucked up against Wigan Bromwich Dons when we were winning 5-0 and a clanger made it 5-1 is it? And that is the point.

To my mind he's a bloody big bollox and at the end of his loan can sod off back to Thornton Heath for his pot of gold.

Bring back Alan Kelly and Trace. At least Trace fucked up when it didn't matter too much
bit harsh but he definitely needs to get his shit together and the management thinks so too
 
Only three teams have conceded less goals than us but thirteen have scored more. Perhaps we should focus our attention on the department that’s letting us down most, particularly as it’s the one we spent most money on in the summer.
it’s harder to score goals than to stop them going in
 
He got a hand to it. If a keeper gets a hand to a shot, unless its a rocket, he should keep it out.

Tammy's shot was hardly a rocket. Hendo showed weak hands. Most keepers would have kept it out. Look at it objectively, if we scored that against say Watford, we'd have been saying keeper should have done better.

Learn to read. 1 - I said Verrips is a complete unknown. 2 - I said IF Hendo keeps making mistakes he should be dropped.

You may have a hard on for him, but fact is, he's slap bang average. Potential, yes. In 5 or 6 years he could be a great keeper. But that wont keep us up now.
I recall Mel Rees being a complete unknown ( was he 3rd or 4th choice at West Brom?) but he will always be remembered by Blades fans as a great keeper in the few games he played for the club
 
If hendo looks at the slow mo he will see why the ball went in. He should have got a leg down behind his hands, its what goalies are taught as kids in the event the balls goes through the hands. On this occasion his right leg comes down but too late which suggests poor technique poss due to lack of concentration?

the“K barrier” you’re referring to isn’t a thing that is universally taught to kids when developing into goalkeepers. There are plenty of goalkeeping coaches out there who teach that sort of “scoop up” type of catch.

it was just a lack of concentration rather than wrong technique.

like I said. He made up for it with the Salah save that could have killed the game off. He’ll win us more points than he’ll cost us. He made some great saves against Palace that helped us win.
 
Deano will save us a few time this season but yesterday was a very basic schoolboy error. Through his hands first then nut-megged.
Wilder knows we were a gnat's dick away from a point from the European Champions. But there's not much point in Deano saving everything if we continue to be inept in front of goal. That's where our problems lie when we have to bring Leon on as substitute.

I have been to all 4 home matches, with a 400 mile round trip each time - we have to do better. We "deserved" points against Soton and Liverpool and arguably on a good day against Leicester.

Shots at goal for those 3 games have to be 30 - goals scored 1. Not good enough. Deano is not the problem.

UTB
 
He got a hand to it. If a keeper gets a hand to a shot, unless its a rocket, he should keep it out.

Tammy's shot was hardly a rocket. Hendo showed weak hands. Most keepers would have kept it out. Look at it objectively, if we scored that against say Watford, we'd have been saying keeper should have done better.

Learn to read. 1 - I said Verrips is a complete unknown. 2 - I said IF Hendo keeps making mistakes he should be dropped.

You may have a hard on for him, but fact is, he's slap bang average. Potential, yes. In 5 or 6 years he could be a great keeper. But that wont keep us up now.
If he’s ‘slap bang average’ he wouldn’t be playing in the premier league. Were you slating JOC or Egan at the time for there part in it? There’s no hard on, just being objective as opposed to your blinkered view when you see the negatives far more than the positives. Yesterday was a monumental bollock drop but it doesn’t warrant the clamour for wanting him dropped. Loris did the same for Spurs yesterday. Learn to read? You said you’d prefer Verrips. Based on what? Still waiting for you to point out what he’s better at than Henderson because quite frankly if you were honest you haven’t got a clue. That’s what irritates me when people make statements that are just plain daft
 
If he’s ‘slap bang average’ he wouldn’t be playing in the premier league. Were you slating JOC or Egan at the time for there part in it? There’s no hard on, just being objective as opposed to your blinkered view when you see the negatives far more than the positives. Yesterday was a monumental bollock drop but it doesn’t warrant the clamour for wanting him dropped. Loris did the same for Spurs yesterday. Learn to read? You said you’d prefer Verrips. Based on what? Still waiting for you to point out what he’s better at than Henderson because quite frankly if you were honest you haven’t got a clue. That’s what irritates me when people make statements that are just plain daft

Plenty of average players play in the premier league. Been in the top flight is no proof that you're actually good.

Read my post carefully, I said I'd prefer Verrips to Moore if someone is to step in. Because Moore we know isnt good enough. Learn to read.
 

Plenty of average players play in the premier league. Been in the top flight is no proof that you're actually good.

Read my post carefully, I said I'd prefer Verrips to Moore if someone is to step in. Because Moore we know isnt good enough. Learn to read.
I can read. You haven’t seen Verrips play so how can you prefer him? I’m still waiting for your in-depth report on Verrips strengths / weaknesses. Now read my post carefully and give me a straight answer
 

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