Wilder's biggest selection clanger

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What was Wilder's biggest selection clanger since JTW?

  • Dropping O'Hare

    Votes: 38 13.3%
  • Robinson over Holding

    Votes: 199 69.6%
  • Brewster over Brooks/Rak-Sakyi

    Votes: 16 5.6%
  • Every minute Cannon was on the pitch

    Votes: 33 11.5%

  • Total voters
    286

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After the JTW was over and we knew what we had to work with, what was Wilder's biggest clanger that cost us the most?
I know a lot will say sticking with Robbo, but for me our biggest issues were how turgid we were in attack in many games.
I guess the way Cannon offered next to nothing in almost every appearance he made, makes him the biggest selection clanger for me, even though many of those appearances came off the bench. Brooks or Rak-Sakyi both deserved more time ahead of Brewster also, but at least Brewster did get a few goals and assists.
 
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After the JTW was over and we knew what we had to work with what was Wilder's biggest clanger that cost us the most?
I know a lot will say sticking with Robbo, but for me our biggest issues were how turgid we were in attack in many games
If there was more confidence in the defence we probably wouldn’t have sat so deep and the attack would have been less turgid.
 
It's obviously Robinson over Holding, assuming that Holding was actually fit enough to play.

Dropping O'Hare actually worked. He wasn't good against Bristol City and Brewster replaced him and set up a goal. Brewster kept his place and scored the winner and then scored again in our best performance of the season. It collectively went off a cliff after that. O'Hare was back in the team against Plymouth and didn't make any difference.

I don't think Brewster over JRS/Brooks was particularly bad either. We cruised through the play off semi and Brewster set up big chances in the first leg. When he left the pitch in the final, we were winning 1-0 and his replacement missed the chance to seal it.
 
Biggest one is Holding

That mayenda chancve in the final he had 3 yards off space

If that's Holding its 1 maybe 2 yards

I rate Wilder and acknowledge his strengths but those selection decisions suggest weakness.

Playing Holding instead of Robinson was such an obvious decision that you can only assume there were other issues.

Did Wilder and Holding fall out? Wilder has a history of bearing grudges. Was there expensive clauses in his contract if he played a number of games? Was he simply unfit and permanently on the red line regards the risk of injury.
 
The management’s handling of O’Hare in the latter part of the season was questionable.

O’Hare started almost every game up until mid-March, and he was crucial to our pressing of ‘not always technically proficient’ Championship defenders as they tried to pass it around at the back as per the current fad, enabling us to win the ball high up the pitch. In addition, his instinctive understanding with Hamer, clearly helps us get more out of our best player. He also proved to be our fittest (not much competition admittedly) and most robust player in a season where we incurred plenty of injuries.

Wilder first dropped O’Hare for the home game with Portsmouth, and the visitors proceeded to play a listless United side off the park notwithstanding our fortuitous 2-1 win.

The manager then restored O’Hare (as well as Peck) for the Middlesbrough game 4 days later, and the energy that they restored to the team was evident in one of our best performances of the season.

I hoped that Wilder would have learned his lesson, but he again dropped O’Hare for the game at Hillsborough. This came after Wilder had substituted O’Hare just 10 minutes after half-time at home to Bristol City. I do wonder whether something went off in the dressing-room after that ‘early’ substitution because from there on O’Hare was only named in the starting XI twice more - pointedly for the ‘dead rubbers’ against Stoke and Blackburn.

O’Hare did not start the decisive Oxford and Millwall games that cost us automatic promotion, and Wilder also overlooked him when promotion was still mathematically alive against Cardiff and Burnley.

O’Hare was again out of the starting line-up when the play-offs came around but came on in both legs against Bristol City to excellent effect, and scored in both games. Even that impact, however, wasn’t enough to win a place in the starting line-up at Wembley, in a team where, being honest, save for Hamer we have had precious few players who have demanded selection on the basis of what they have or can produce on the pitch.

The fact that the management seemingly could not see how instrumental O’Hare is/was to the team, is concerning.
 
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Board must be asking why they paid big money for Holding to sit on the bench when he looked a better option when he came on
 
1) JLT over Holding
2) O'Hare not being selected
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3) the others. RB was fine while AB and JRS were incredibly hot and cold, and Cannon should have been playing to get him scoring goals, but he just wasn't suitable the way we were playing.
 
Robinson should be nowhere near thefirst team, not on the bench. He is past it. I don't know why Wilder picks him.
 

Robinson belongs to a bygone era of football players he'd have fitted right in back in the Blackwell era.

Sadly his manager is far to pissed constantly to see this and that is what will ultimately cost him his role.
 
Unpopular opinion:

Picking Peck over Davies in the final.

I had no issue with picking Peck, who has been excellent, to start but when a different pattern - of the game being played in our half - had evidently set in 10 minutes after half-time, it was crying out for Davies to be brought on to attempt to wrestle back control of midfield.

Working out and making effective changes during games is, however, Wilder & Knill’s biggest weakness. That is why, for everything that they do well, they tend to be out-managed by the better teams with the better managers.

They are also reluctant to make changes when we are leading, notwithstanding that it is often very apparent how a game is developing and what is coming.
 
Brooks and Rak-Sakyi would be ahead of Brewster for me, but that selection is hardly a clanger compared with the other three. Neither of them did much at all in my opinion this season, aside from a few good moments.

I think people had an overinflated opinion of our attacking options generally. Our fans and others. Diaz, Cannon and Moore also offered very little. O'Hare is up for debate and didn't convince everyone, particularly in the first half of the season. Only Hamer and Campbell really had what I'd call successful seasons in those 4 forward positions, and one of those was never fully fit!
 
We have never hammered teams under Wilder..

Why on earth he couldn't try Brooks and JRS together is baffling. .

Alan Knill retired 4 year ago yet we still pay him a wage.

The board will have noticed and are clearly preparing his P45 as we speak

Thanks for 16-20 great times and we did well till jan last season but playing Robbo over Holding and Cannon signing cost us.

The bottle job at Wembley was atrocious as well
 
Maybe wilder wants to give Brewster a new contact and the board saying no way is the issue now as they know we have much better players on the squad for that position and they don't get his reasoning
 
I'm going for playing Hamer, the league's best central midfielder, on the left wing instead of in the middle and instead of playing an actual left winger/forward there
You mean the player who got voted the league POY playing from the left wing ?
 
I must admit peck was underwhelming in the final,

Surely Wilder told him to play underwhelmingly.
The narrative of this thread is that when players play poorly it's the managements fault.

BBD 2 seasons ago 7/8 out of 10.

BBD this season 6 out of 10.

Easier to scapegoat Cannon though.
 
Not replacing Souttar. Holding came in too late and wasn't owt like the monster Soutts was, better than Robbo and probably good enough that had he played more we'd likely not have been as shit in a few games but not shoring up the defence cost us.

Dropping O'Hare lost us some energy, Rak Sayki and Brooks were insignificant in most games and Cannon was a disaster but that didn't kill us, losing the big man did, simples 💩💩💩

UTBFTP 👊👊👊
 
Starting Moore and Campbell in the play off final. When they both gassed after 60 minutes there was nobody to hold the ball and link it. Indeed, he was forced to leave a knackered Moore on who was so fatigued he played a part in their winning goal. If Burrows scores or Brooks dinks the keeper we're up anyway which underlines how wafer thin the margins are.
 

  • Dropping O'Hare
  • Robinson over Holding
  • Brewster over Brooks/Rak-Sakyi
  • Every minute Cannon was on the pitch
I wanted to pick three clangers of the four and it did not include Brewster.
 

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