Henderson

[TaipeiBlade]

I can read. You haven’t seen Verrips play so how can you prefer him? I’m still waiting for your in-depth report on Verrips strengths / weaknesses. Now read my post carefully and give me a straight answer

You clearly can't. Here's my original post.

Gotta think he's getting close to his last chance. Another error or two and gotta be looking at benching him.

The only thing is, I wouldn't trust Moore in the Prem and Verrips is a complete unknown quantity. Out of the two, I think I'd prefer Verrips... Moore we know isn't Prem level, Verrips could be.

I've put in bold the key point.

So, where did I say I'd prefer Verrips to Hendo?
Answer. I didnt. I said itd be difficult to drop Hendo because Moore not good enough and Verrips is unknown.

Again

Learn. To. Read.

Or is English your 2nd language?

 

[Niceguyeddie]

He is shit, Ramsdale who we sold on is in front of him at under 21 s, we are paying a fortune to coach a goalkeeper who will never make it at Man Utd

He's too old to play for the under twenty ones

 

[Maidenhead]

What a load of shit.

Big games, clean sheet at Hillsborough when the twats resorted to dirty tricks (called leave it to the defender), the run around new year when we played loads of top 6 teams and came out in a great place.

West Brom and Leeds away clean sheets etc.

He earned us twice as many points as he lost us, and has already made some great saves this season.

Unless you're joking and in that case, well done, you got a nibble.

I can't tell anymore, that much shite on here after a game.

This is not knocking Henderson, but I think our other five defenders may have had something to do with these results.

I can't remember a match winning save from Henderson, and he rarely has a lot to do due to the quality of the defence in front of him.

I'll be more than happy for anyone to line up a string of videos of the match winning saves that he's made as my memory is not what it once was.

 

[spongebobblade]

You clearly can't. Here's my original post.




I've put in bold the key point.

So, where did I say I'd prefer Verrips to Hendo?
Answer. I didnt. I said itd be difficult to drop Hendo because Moore not good enough and Verrips is unknown.

Again

Learn. To. Read.

Or is English your 2nd language?

You said you’d prefer Verrips. You can dress it up all you like or highlight other parts. The point your making is that you prefer (whether it’s Moore or Hendo) an unknown keeper who you’ve never seen play. If your trying to say we haven’t adequate competition in your roundabout way then fair enough, I’d agree but we can’t address all issues in the first season back

 

[Mojo]

Watching Ramsdale on MOTD, he seems very solid. Don't think he's made any mistakes this season? Shame we got rid, would have been good to develop our own rather than Man U's. But like all the legend ex goalies have tweeted at Hendo, it's how you react. We really can't afford any more howlers from him. But let's be honest, the whole team are making far too many mistakes not just Hendo.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Henderson has made four world class saves this season. Unfortunately he's made two poor errors which is almost as many as he made in the whole of last season. Liverpool's keeper yesterday has made one poor error already this season. The likes of Pickford, De Gea and Butland have made a lot more errors over the last two years, and are a lot more experienced.You judge a keeper on whether they get you more points than they cost you. On that basis Henderson is unarguably the best Blades keeper since Kenny, and arguably the best since Kelly, and is well in credit. It's a shame we don't own him as he'll only get better.

 

[TaipeiBlade]

You said you’d prefer Verrips. You can dress it up all you like or highlight other parts. The point your making is that you prefer (whether it’s Moore or Hendo) an unknown keeper who you’ve never seen play. If your trying to say we haven’t adequate competition in your roundabout way then fair enough, I’d agree but we can’t address all issues in the first season back

I said "Out of the two, I'd prefer Verrips"

The two being, Moore and Verrips.

Nowhere did I say I'd prefer Verrips over Hendo.

But, if Hendo keeps fucking up, he does need dropping. And of the two (Moore or Verrips) I'd go witj Verrips.

Thats my point.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Watching Ramsdale on MOTD, he seems very solid. Don't think he's made any mistakes this season? Shame we got rid, would have been good to develop our own rather than Man U's. But like all the legend ex goalies have tweeted at Hendo, it's how you react. We really can't afford any more howlers from him. But let's be honest, the whole team are making far too many mistakes not just Hendo.

Rambo was an outstanding youth prospect. A perspicacious individual on here said so at the time. His kicking and aerial ability have improved, but are still relative weaknesses. If he was our number one, he'd be getting pelters on here.

 

[Grappler]

He’s gash, didn’t want him after last season, Leeds etc. We need our own goalie, not just a decent prospect we can develop for another team. Big mistake having him back this season but the clappers love him due to his his big msn social media from last season , fuck off you useless cunt and let’s get a goalie to be the future of SUFC Nd not MUFC

The season where we finished second and had the most clean sheets of any team in the Championship, including a seven game run?

 

[spongebobblade]

I said "Out of the two, I'd prefer Verrips"

The two being, Moore and Verrips.

Nowhere did I say I'd prefer Verrips over Hendo.

But, if Hendo keeps fucking up, he does need dropping. And of the two (Moore or Verrips) I'd go witj Verrips.

Thats my point.

So if Hendo keeps fucking up you would go with a keeper you never seen play or know how good he is.
NOW DO YOU SEE MY POINT?

 

[TaipeiBlade]

So if Hendo keeps fucking up you would go with a keeper you never seen play or know how good he is.
NOW DO YOU SEE MY POINT?

Yes.

Becauar there comes a point where yoy have to say enough is enough.

You can't playing someone who keeps making basic errors.

We're 7 games in, he's cost us 3 goals already.

Fact is, if he was with a rival, we would be looking at him as a weak spot.

 

[mancunianblade]

Struggle to understand the opinion that Henderson is too confident?

He's a GK FFS he needs to believe he's the best in the world because the second the doubt creeps in that's when the mistakes multiply.

Man Utd have given De Gea a huge contract so Henderson is surplus and we should sign him.

He's made more mistakes than he should. But his ability to bounce back from them is priceless and he will only learn from them. In the summer we have the chance to sign England’s future No1 GK. for probably less than £20m

 

[TaipeiBlade]

Struggle to understand the opinion that Henderson is too confident?

He's a GK FFS he needs to believe he's the best in the world because the second the doubt creeps in that's when the mistakes multiply.

Man Utd have given De Gea a huge contract so Henderson is surplus and we should sign him.

He's made more mistakes than he should. But his ability to bounce back from them is priceless and he will only learn from them. In the summer we have the chance to sign England’s future No1 GK. for probably less than £20m

I guarantee he wont ever be Englands number 1.

He'll be Englands next Rob Green. A few decent games, then dropping a clanger in a big game.

At most, he'll be a solid England number 3 because theres 2 or 3 youngsters better than him already

 

[norfolkblade]

This is not knocking Henderson, but I think our other five defenders may have had something to do with these results.

I can't remember a match winning save from Henderson, and he rarely has a lot to do due to the quality of the defence in front of him.

I'll be more than happy for anyone to line up a string of videos of the match winning saves that he's made as my memory is not what it once was.

I refer you to his 3 on 1 save against Norwich at home last season when they should have been flagged offside, that was match winning.

He is going to earn us more points than he costs us. Yes he has a few mistakes in him but I challenge anyone to find me a young keeper who doesn’t. Christ, even Lloris had a shocker yesterday and he’s the number one for the world champions. It happens. Hendo is a cracking keeper and will go far in his career, hopefully a lot of it will be with us.

 

[Mojo]

Rambo was an outstanding youth prospect. A perspicacious individual on here said so at the time. His kicking and aerial ability have improved, but are still relative weaknesses. If he was our number one, he'd be getting pelters on here.

Why would he be getting pelters?

 

[mancunianblade]

I guarantee he wont ever be Englands number 1.

He'll be Englands next Rob Green. A few decent games, then dropping a clanger in a big game.

At most, he'll be a solid England number 3 because theres 2 or 3 youngsters better than him already

So by your form on this thread you would prefer Simon Moore or a Keeper you havnt even seen play who Wilder and Ward rank as 3rd choice behind Moore play instead of a GK who in your own words is good enough to go to a World Cup as England’s No3.?

Also these 2 or 3 GKS who are younger and better who are they?

 

[spongebobblade]

Yes.

Becauar there comes a point where yoy have to say enough is enough.

You can't playing someone who keeps making basic errors.

We're 7 games in, he's cost us 3 goals already.

Fact is, if he was with a rival, we would be looking at him as a weak spot.

We will beg to differ on how many goals he’s cost us this season. The fact remains if JOC and Egan hadn’t got in each other’s way Abraham would have been in on goal.
If you would be happy to play a keeper whom you know nothing about that’s fine and your opinion. Personally I wouldn’t but as ever I trust Wilder on this one. Let’s see who he goes with against Man Utd in November. If he does go with Verrips it will be because he’s seen plenty of him. Unlike you

 

[nopigfansintown]

Why would he be getting pelters?

People would be criticising his kicking, command of his area and lack of aerial prowess (all aspects of his game that can be improved). These people wouldn't point to his age, outstanding qualities and his massive upside. Henderson has made four big mistakes in two seasons and has won us a lot of points(including this season) and people are doing the same already. In fact they were last season when the mistakes were very infrequent.

 

[Akinbiyi]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he gets dropped for the next game. Wilder is ruthless and he'll want the message to go out that no-one is immune from competition/scrutiny.

I'm not sure if he'd put Moore or Verrips in though.

I would expect Henderson to keep his place for now but not for much longer if these mistakes keep happening. He needs to do a lot of training of those type of shots, he was also no-where the Barnes goal from a similar position

No chance he’s dropped for the next game for Long Shot Moore, no idea what Verrips is like.

 

[super_pig]

If he’s ‘slap bang average’ he wouldn’t be playing in the premier league. Were you slating JOC or Egan at the time for there part in it? There’s no hard on, just being objective as opposed to your blinkered view when you see the negatives far more than the positives. Yesterday was a monumental bollock drop but it doesn’t warrant the clamour for wanting him dropped. Loris did the same for Spurs yesterday. Learn to read? You said you’d prefer Verrips. Based on what? Still waiting for you to point out what he’s better at than Henderson because quite frankly if you were honest you haven’t got a clue. That’s what irritates me when people make statements that are just plain daft

who wants him dropped? Wilder knows the lad .. he knows how to deal with him.. what makes him tick..
he needs to improve his distribution then he’ll be at the ‘very’ top

 

[Maidenhead]

I refer you to his 3 on 1 save against Norwich at home last season when they should have been flagged offside, that was match winning.

He is going to earn us more points than he costs us. Yes he has a few mistakes in him but I challenge anyone to find me a young keeper who doesn’t. Christ, even Lloris had a shocker yesterday and he’s the number one for the world champions. It happens. Hendo is a cracking keeper and will go far in his career, hopefully a lot of it will be with us.

I agree that one on one he is excellent as shown a good number of times, including yesterday and at Everton last week.

I think his shot stopping abilities have yet to be regularly tested as our defenders are very good at getting blocks in and preventing the shots in the first place.

I think that his command of his area varies from minute to minute. Sometimes he is very good and sometime he is not.

This brings me on to his decision making and I worry about that. I think he can be indecisive and that is a real problem as it also leads to indecision in the other defenders if they don't know what the keeper is going to do. He needs to make his mind up a little quicker and back himself by positive actions. He is particularly poor on through balls and balls over the top, and is often slow to come for them. Sometimes he will get it wrong but if he makes the right decisions more often than not he will be a very very good keeper. This was definitely the biggest strength of Simon Tracey's even if occasionally it did make a complete fool of him.

Finally, his distribution is terrible and definitely needs some work. Far too many balls go straight from his boot into the south stand.

I don't know about the goal but schmeichel definitely gave Henderson a master class in ball distribution

Bottom line is that for me, he could be a very good keeper but he still has a long way to go to get there.

I see from an Alan Nixon tweet this morning that now De Gea has signed a new contract Man United are likely to want to sell him at the end of this season, and will be hoping to get £20m for him.

I hope we don't pay that unless there are significant improvements in his game.

Bottom line, I think he's a decent keeper but he's not yet proved himself any better than that, and we need better in the PL.

 

[spongebobblade]

who wants him dropped? Wilder knows the lad .. he knows how to deal with him.. what makes him tick..
he needs to improve his distribution then he’ll be at the ‘very’ top

Sadly a fair few on social media after yesterday’s game and a few on here have there knives sharpened

 

[super_pig]

I agree that one on one he is excellent as shown a good number of times, including yesterday and at Everton last week.

I think his shot stopping abilities have yet to be regularly tested as our defenders are very good at getting blocks in and preventing the shots in the first place.

I think that his command of his area varies from minute to minute. Sometimes he is very good and sometime he is not.

This brings me on to his decision making and I worry about that. I think he can be indecisive and that is a real problem as it also leads to indecision in the other defenders if they don't know what the keeper is going to do. He needs to make his mind up a little quicker and back himself by positive actions. He is particularly poor on through balls and balls over the top, and is often slow to come for them. Sometimes he will get it wrong but if he makes the right decisions more often than not he will be a very very good keeper. This was definitely the biggest strength of Simon Tracey's even if occasionally it did make a complete fool of him.

Finally, his distribution is terrible and definitely needs some work. Far too many balls go straight from his boot into the south stand.



Bottom line is that for me, he could be a very good keeper but he still has a long way to go to get there.

I see from an Alan Nixon tweet this morning that now De Gea has signed a new contract Man United are likely to want to sell him at the end of this season, and will be hoping to get £20m for him.

I hope we don't pay that unless there are significant improvements in his game.

Bottom line, I think he's a decent keeper but he's not yet proved himself any better than that, and we need better in the PL.

total overreaction

 

[Maidenhead]

total overreaction

It's my general opinion.

It would have been exactly the same last week.

I defended him for the Vardy goal but not his distribution as illustrated in the Leicester quote I included.

 

[super_pig]

Sadly a fair few on social media after yesterday’s game and a few on here have there knives sharpened

macburnie must have just sighed in relief that the scapegoat baton has been passed on
most fans are still behind him.. we were chanting his name after his clanger

 

[super_pig]

It's my general opinion.

It would have been exactly the same last week.

yeah but you’d have looked daft last week

 

[spongebobblade]

I agree that one on one he is excellent as shown a good number of times, including yesterday and at Everton last week.

I think his shot stopping abilities have yet to be regularly tested as our defenders are very good at getting blocks in and preventing the shots in the first place.

I think that his command of his area varies from minute to minute. Sometimes he is very good and sometime he is not.

This brings me on to his decision making and I worry about that. I think he can be indecisive and that is a real problem as it also leads to indecision in the other defenders if they don't know what the keeper is going to do. He needs to make his mind up a little quicker and back himself by positive actions. He is particularly poor on through balls and balls over the top, and is often slow to come for them. Sometimes he will get it wrong but if he makes the right decisions more often than not he will be a very very good keeper. This was definitely the biggest strength of Simon Tracey's even if occasionally it did make a complete fool of him.

Finally, his distribution is terrible and definitely needs some work. Far too many balls go straight from his boot into the south stand.



Bottom line is that for me, he could be a very good keeper but he still has a long way to go to get there.

I see from an Alan Nixon tweet this morning that now De Gea has signed a new contract Man United are likely to want to sell him at the end of this season, and will be hoping to get £20m for him.

I hope we don't pay that unless there are significant improvements in his game.

Bottom line, I think he's a decent keeper but he's not yet proved himself any better than that, and we need better in the PL.

Without doubt he has room for improvement and agree with a lot of what you’ve said. At 22 he has time on his hands. Whether people like him or not we can’t rectify or sort every position in 1 year. Personally I’d like to see him grow with us but not for 20m. They sold Sam Johnstone a couple of years ago for 7m so you’d have to say 10m tops. If that’s too much or if we need better I’m struggling to see any realistic alternatives at the moment.

 

[spongebobblade]

macburnie must have just sighed in relief that the scapegoat baton has been passed on
most fans are still behind him.. we were chanting his name after his clanger

McGoldrick must be laughing his tits off then

 

[super_pig]

McGoldrick must be laughing his tits off then

didsy was ‘2’ games ago.. please keep up

 

[Maidenhead]

McGoldrick must be laughing his tits off then

Now that's another anomaly, Didsy doesn't score when through one on one and he's a crap striker.

Henderson, who is very good one on one makes a good save and he's a great keeper.

Why is it because he is a great keeper and not the opposition striker that is crap?