Hecky out

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botoble said:
Once we have ignored the idiocy of the OP there was a serious question by a majority of fans when Hecky got a long term contract after Slav.

That being said we had such a strong team I felt an average manager who didn’t want to bring “their own style of play” could put us in the promotion picture.

However

Our team then tried to self implode with financial issues, training ground issues and injury issues.

Looking back at this season I think we can all agree Heckingbottom has over achieved and based on the last 2 seasons has shown himself to be a very good championship manager.

I’d be more than happy for Heckingbottom to do a farke if we go down I’d like him to have the chance to go back up.
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We won't get relegated from Premier League next season. Feel free to come back here and slate me if I'm wrong.
 
Weasel said:
What is clear though is that I think it would be better all round if no one posted anything on here from the start of the season and then only put something on at the end of the season when the results are in and we can all be 100% sure of ourselves with that little thing called hindsight. All experts aren't we with a large dose of hindsight? Tbh, I thought PH nearly fucked it up for himself with his stubbornness in sticking with the old and tired midfield (Fleck and Norwood). Luckily for all concerned it seems the penny finally dropped abd he started Doyle and McAtee at Sunderland the next match and we never looked back. It was a close call though and it was closer than it should have been at that stage. But as far as some on here are concerned, the SUFC manager is clearly always right...🙄
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I agree on the transition, however could it also be viewed

He started with a pair of experienced and promoted pair, over 2 young loans

These 2 took us to top 2, and at that point Norwood was statistically the best midfielder in the division

They tired, results slipped, loan lads come in, we finish as many points above boro as we started the shaky period

That’s the managers job innit - not lucky?

The beauty of forums is you have a voice,

Here’s one, Brewster next year will show promise for a few games, score 1 off his bell end, get injured and spend rest of season out before leaving for £1-3m close season
If he bags 15+ goals next season and develops into the player we thought we bought I’ll happily come on here and call myself a twat.
 
Come on, we can all be a bit fickle at times, it's part of being a football supporter to slag your manager and players off one week then praise them the week after calling them world beaters.
I'm guilty.
 
I've slated the bloke on here, but he made the changes needed dropping Norwood and bringing in Doyle and mcatee. He's got the job done, so I'm happy to eat a big slice of humble pie. Let's hope he can carry on and adapt to the premiership.
 
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Wilder is 10 years older and has managed 750 more games (1,000 v 250). The scope for Heckingbottom to improve, from a pretty strong current level is huge.

He seems old but he’s still a young manager.
 
Since this classic thread started we have played 8 league games, accrued 21 points from 24.
Won 7 and lost 1 to Burnley when we were down to 10 men. Scored 15 and conceded 5.

Also, a FA cup semi final against the best team in the world.

Do some fans still really want him out? 🤣

Hecky and the staff thoroughly deserve a pop at the Prem. Even if went straight back down, I would still like Hecky to have another go at getting us back up.
 
steve26272 said:
I agree on the transition, however could it also be viewed

He started with a pair of experienced and promoted pair, over 2 young loans

These 2 took us to top 2, and at that point Norwood was statistically the best midfielder in the division

They tired, results slipped, loan lads come in, we finish as many points above boro as we started the shaky period

That’s the managers job innit - not lucky?

The beauty of forums is you have a voice,

Here’s one, Brewster next year will show promise for a few games, score 1 off his bell end, get injured and spend rest of season out before leaving for £1-3m close season
If he bags 15+ goals next season and develops into the player we thought we bought I’ll happily come on here and call myself a twat.
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He wont
 
Carlton Blade said:
Wilder is 10 years older and has managed 750 more games (1,000 v 250). The scope for Heckingbottom to improve, from a pretty strong current level is huge.

He seems old but he’s still a young manager.
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Should we therefore keep him even if it looks like we’re coming back down?
Unless his presence is clearly destroying the team, as we saw with Wilder, I hope any new owner keeps him. I’m massively sceptical that they would though, whereas I think the Prince wouldn’t sack him.
He’s a perfect choice to bring us back up, and has a unique relationship with the current players as well as the academy graduates.
The fans need to be clear in their support for him should the press start speculating and stirring the pot.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Should we therefore keep him even if it looks like we’re coming back down?
Unless his presence is clearly destroying the team, as we saw with Wilder, I hope any new owner keeps him. I’m massively sceptical that they would though, whereas I think the Prince wouldn’t sack him.
He’s a perfect choice to bring us back up, and has a unique relationship with the current players as well as the academy graduates.
The fans need to be clear in their support for him should the press start speculating and stirring the pot.
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Dont be hasty Bob, lets see how he does at the next level, which is where we want to be ,not fighting to get here every other season surely . Think he will recruit better than Wilder and hes getting most things right , but its not nice getting arseholed every week, or not being brave enough to ‘have a go’ , big test coming up , hope for the best !
 
buddy said:
Dont be hasty Bob, lets see how he does at the next level, which is where we want to be ,not fighting to get here every other season surely . Think he will recruit better than Wilder and hes getting most things right , but its not nice getting arseholed every week, or not being brave enough to ‘have a go’ , big test coming up , hope for the best !
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He won’t have the funds Wilder had, and is unlikely to wreck morale in the same way either.
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
Should we therefore keep him even if it looks like we’re coming back down?
Unless his presence is clearly destroying the team, as we saw with Wilder, I hope any new owner keeps him. I’m massively sceptical that they would though, whereas I think the Prince wouldn’t sack him.
He’s a perfect choice to bring us back up, and has a unique relationship with the current players as well as the academy graduates.
The fans need to be clear in their support for him should the press start speculating and stirring the pot.
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Whether we keep him or not, this needs to be viewed as a 3-5 year cycle where we play at least 2, hopefully 3 of those seasons in the top division.

As with Wilder, his longevity will depend on his ability to evolve both the team and his own characteristics. Wilder burned out, PH may never burn hot enough for it to be an issue

In short, 🤷‍♂️
 
Weasel said:
What is clear though is that I think it would be better all round if no one posted anything on here from the start of the season and then only put something on at the end of the season when the results are in and we can all be 100% sure of ourselves with that little thing called hindsight. All experts aren't we with a large dose of hindsight? Tbh, I thought PH nearly fucked it up for himself with his stubbornness in sticking with the old and tired midfield (Fleck and Norwood). Luckily for all concerned it seems the penny finally dropped abd he started Doyle and McAtee at Sunderland the next match and we never looked back. It was a close call though and it was closer than it should have been at that stage. But as far as some on here are concerned, the SUFC manager is clearly always right...🙄
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It's a forum.

I thought the OP was OTT at the time, we were having a wobble, but that's all it was, the wheels hadn't come off.

Just hold your hands up when you call it wrong, we can forgive. Nicolas Copernicus has, so forgiven in my eyes.

Stevo is digging his heels in, and that's making him look like an even bigger 🤡
 
FATTYFOULKE said:
Well we’ll wait and see but I think he has the potential to be a very good Premier League manager.

He’s very tactically astute and he knows how to get the best out of his squad. He’s assembled a great back up management team and has the respect of all the players, from young to well established.

He also doesn’t get mardy and call out the players publicly if he feels they’ve under performed, so keeps their respect.

I loved Wilder when he was here that first season back in the top flight, but given the choice now, I’d have Heckingbottom every time.
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I think I would too.

One of my comments about Wilder was that the team always put a performance in when he was in charge. On reflection, I'm not sure that was right.

Hecky has had a lot more to contend with than CW this season, and we have just about always done enough to win (the last four home games when the pressure was in illustrates this point. 4 games and 4 wins).

Wilders team had a swagger though, and Heckys team doesn't. Heckys team relies on a moment of magic from somewhere to pinch the points.

I loved CW's passhun, but I do like the calm and professional way Hecky goes about it, and handles himself (despite also getting sent off in the process when he did show too much passhun, so there's passhun there).

I appreciate it might be different next season, but Utd were f@@king awful in the 2nd season of the EPL. Wilder believed his own hype, bought the wrong players in the summer and then had his flounce.

Heckys stats are better though, so on balance I'd take him over Wilder.
 
SouthStandGBlock said:
Stevo is digging his heels in, and that's making him look like an even bigger 🤡
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He made himself look a clown when he got banned, came back as b1ade4life in a fallowfield thread, and made fallowfield look like a solid and sensible bloke.
 
Recruitment will be the ultimate factor on whether we keep Hecky or not whennwe go back down. This squad is clearly not good enough to stay in the Prem as it stands. I agree with Hecky that we need 5 or 6 BETTER players. Some of the current first choice 11 will end up as fringe players.

If say, 6 players is the target then I think we are looking at...

1x GK
1x CB
1x LWB
2x Midfielders
1x Striker

Can't wait for the season to finish and the transfer window to open.
 

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