CONFIRMED Harry Souttar joins on Season Long loan

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Lots of really BIG players flatter to deceive, due to their size. This lad does not. He's got a deceptively good touch for such a mountain of a man, and obviously he's a threat at set pieces. Also quite unusual to see someone so tall, but built to match it. He's an absolute beast of a bloke.

Enjoyed the bit today after the earlier fracas where their bloke kept running with the ball after the whistle had gone. Seemed to almost front up to a couple of our players as he ran at them, then looked up, saw big Harry in front of him, and just stopped.

Could become a real cult hero if he nails down a regular starting spot, and would be worth chucking a bid at in January if he keeps playing well and we're in the right area of the table then.
 
He's massive and hard but most importantly he's actually good at football. Also allowed anel to get back to his old marauding self today which was great to see
 
ForgeBlade said:
Could become a real cult hero if he nails down a regular starting spot, and would be worth chucking a bid at in January if he keeps playing well and we're in the right area of the table then.
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Was literally thinking the exact same thing..

Both that he could be a cult hero for us if he sticks around long enough and also explore the possibility to see if we can find a way to get him on a permanent.
 
OG today in the loss to Bahrain, but he was alright. Bit of a nothing performance all round by the socceroos. Dull as dishwater
 
I'm hearing quite a lot of excitement about Souttar's recovery and the potential for him to come back to us. I've even heard some say a deal (dependant upon recovery measures) is already done for Jan.

However, and I mentioned this when we first signed him, he hasn't had a full season under him for ages, so if we are going for him, I do hope it's a loan with no obligation.

Don't get me wrong, I want him to get back to full performance, for us and for the Socceroos, but his record worries me...in terms of only two seasons getting a consistent run

Season - Snr Appearances - Minutes
15/16 - 2 - 97
16/17 - 6 - 540
17/18 - 17 - 1,480
18/19 - 15 - 1,326
19/20 - 41 - 3,609
20/21 - 43 - 3,867
21/22 - 18 - 1,608
22/23 - 19 - 1,621
23/24 - 4 - 188
24/25 - 22 - 1,858

Major injuries:
21/22 - Cruciate - 340 days
24/25 - Achilles - 371 days to 31/12/25
 
Cappy said:
I'm hearing quite a lot of excitement about Souttar's recovery and the potential for him to come back to us. I've even heard some say a deal (dependant upon recovery measures) is already done for Jan.

However, and I mentioned this when we first signed him, he hasn't had a full season under him for ages, so if we are going for him, I do hope it's a loan with no obligation.

Don't get me wrong, I want him to get back to full performance, for us and for the Socceroos, but his record worries me...in terms of only two seasons getting a consistent run

Season - Snr Appearances - Minutes
15/16 - 2 - 97
16/17 - 6 - 540
17/18 - 17 - 1,480
18/19 - 15 - 1,326
19/20 - 41 - 3,609
20/21 - 43 - 3,867
21/22 - 18 - 1,608
22/23 - 19 - 1,621
23/24 - 4 - 188
24/25 - 22 - 1,858

Major injuries:
21/22 - Cruciate - 340 days
24/25 - Achilles - 371 days to 31/12/25
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Add in the air miles and travelling to International matches in Australia which I felt contributed to his injury and general level of fitness. In any event Leicester aren't going to loan him out to us any time soon.
 
Cappy said:
I'm hearing quite a lot of excitement about Souttar's recovery and the potential for him to come back to us. I've even heard some say a deal (dependant upon recovery measures) is already done for Jan.

However, and I mentioned this when we first signed him, he hasn't had a full season under him for ages, so if we are going for him, I do hope it's a loan with no obligation.

Don't get me wrong, I want him to get back to full performance, for us and for the Socceroos, but his record worries me...in terms of only two seasons getting a consistent run

Season - Snr Appearances - Minutes
15/16 - 2 - 97
16/17 - 6 - 540
17/18 - 17 - 1,480
18/19 - 15 - 1,326
19/20 - 41 - 3,609
20/21 - 43 - 3,867
21/22 - 18 - 1,608
22/23 - 19 - 1,621
23/24 - 4 - 188
24/25 - 22 - 1,858

Major injuries:
21/22 - Cruciate - 340 days
24/25 - Achilles - 371 days to 31/12/25
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The issue we had with Souttar was that we realised how good he was and at that point he had to play every minute of every game. It’s also difficult to give a CB the last 30 mins as it’s just not a done thing in football, so like Ben Mee, they come in and play and you run the risk of breakdown.

I’d love him to come back and be as good as he was (or even 60% as good), but we’d need to manage him well and probably have a word with him about international retirement.
 
Houston_Blade said:
The issue we had with Souttar was that we realised how good he was and at that point he had to play every minute of every game. It’s also difficult to give a CB the last 30 mins as it’s just not a done thing in football, so like Ben Mee, they come in and play and you run the risk of breakdown.

I’d love him to come back and be as good as he was (or even 60% as good), but we’d need to manage him well and probably have a word with him about international retirement.
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I imagine he will be desperate to play as soon as he can and break back into the Socceroos camp again given it's a world cup year. He won't be retiring away from that this season while he's a chance
 
Cappy said:
I imagine he will be desperate to play as soon as he can and break back into the Socceroos camp again given it's a world cup year. He won't be retiring away from that this season while he's a chance
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Agreed, I just don’t think he can sustain a club career without injury issues so to try and do both isn’t going to help him long term.
 
Cappy said:
I'm hearing quite a lot of excitement about Souttar's recovery and the potential for him to come back to us. I've even heard some say a deal (dependant upon recovery measures) is already done for Jan.

However, and I mentioned this when we first signed him, he hasn't had a full season under him for ages, so if we are going for him, I do hope it's a loan with no obligation.

Don't get me wrong, I want him to get back to full performance, for us and for the Socceroos, but his record worries me...in terms of only two seasons getting a consistent run

Season - Snr Appearances - Minutes
15/16 - 2 - 97
16/17 - 6 - 540
17/18 - 17 - 1,480
18/19 - 15 - 1,326
19/20 - 41 - 3,609
20/21 - 43 - 3,867
21/22 - 18 - 1,608
22/23 - 19 - 1,621
23/24 - 4 - 188
24/25 - 22 - 1,858

Major injuries:
21/22 - Cruciate - 340 days
24/25 - Achilles - 371 days to 31/12/25
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Interesting that the only two full seasons he's completed were during the lockdown era
 
Make no mistake, Souttar was just what we needed and was a class above the defenders we had. Reads the game well, was a real problem for sides both at the back and attacking wise, because he basically occupied 2 players leaving so much space for other players. His leadership, not especially in the captaincy sense but more on the organisation side, made him a real asset to the central defence.

But as he got closer to his injury, he did appear to get turned more, pacey strikers were able to spin off him and cause him problems. So there would definitely have been a benefit to bring in another defender to play alongside.

As for coming back, i think its wise to be cautious, I don't see him being back playing regularly until the summer. Its a big injury and probably needs a slow return to playing.
 

That Boxing Day match against Burnley absolutely destroyed us.
Souttar gone for the season and Souza out long term.

Lost the match and springboarded Burnley.

If we'd had that pair for the full season I'm pretty sure we'd have gone up (though it's difficult to say given Burnley & Leeds reached 100 points).
 
Cappy said:
I'm hearing quite a lot of excitement about Souttar's recovery and the potential for him to come back to us. I've even heard some say a deal (dependant upon recovery measures) is already done for Jan.

However, and I mentioned this when we first signed him, he hasn't had a full season under him for ages, so if we are going for him, I do hope it's a loan with no obligation.

Don't get me wrong, I want him to get back to full performance, for us and for the Socceroos, but his record worries me...in terms of only two seasons getting a consistent run

Season - Snr Appearances - Minutes
15/16 - 2 - 97
16/17 - 6 - 540
17/18 - 17 - 1,480
18/19 - 15 - 1,326
19/20 - 41 - 3,609
20/21 - 43 - 3,867
21/22 - 18 - 1,608
22/23 - 19 - 1,621
23/24 - 4 - 188
24/25 - 22 - 1,858

Major injuries:
21/22 - Cruciate - 340 days
24/25 - Achilles - 371 days to 31/12/25
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