Guardian and the Blades

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The Guardian's football coverage, ranked from what's most important to them to least important:

Man U/Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool
Man City
Barcelona
Rest of Premier League
Real Madrid/Bayern Munich
Rest of La Liga
MLS
Australian League
Rest of Bundesliga
Serie A
Celtic
Other teams in the Champions League

- giant gap -

Rest of English and Scottish football

They should be ashamed of their lower league coverage. Luckily, the Internet exists so it doesn't matter.
 



boo radley said:
You must have quoted the wrong person.
I think you are talking to yourself there.
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He's just 'registering' it, boo.

In what, and to whom and for what purpose, I have no idea.

I expect LYDON poster has sat and had a blummen good word with himself as Barney has registered his disagreement regarding his unreasonably unpleasant posting style.

Or summat.

pommpey
 
pommpey said:
He's just 'registering' it, boo.

In what, and to whom and for what purpose, I have no idea.

I expect LYDON poster has sat and had a blummen good word with himself as Barney has registered his disagreement regarding his unreasonably unpleasant posting style.

Or summat.

pommpey
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I reckon he's registering it because he thinks in doing so he'll have some sort of licence to carry on behaving like a wanker.
 
Leonardo Green said:
Don't read a communist news paper then.
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Surely a communist paper should be about equality, giving the smaller clubs the same level of attention and reward etc.? Surely only a purely Capitalist paper would only look at things from the richest, most successful club’s point of view?
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Surely a communist paper should be about equality, giving the smaller clubs the same level of attention and reward etc.? Surely only a purely Capitalist paper would only look at things from the richest, most successful club’s point of view?
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He doesn't know what communism actually means. It's just a word he calls anybody to the left of Genghis Khan. I suspect his real problem with the Guardian is all those big words and lack of pictures.
 
Revolution said:
The Guardian's football coverage, ranked from what's most important to them to least important:

Man U/Arsenal/Chelsea/Liverpool
Man City
Barcelona
Rest of Premier League
Real Madrid/Bayern Munich
Rest of La Liga
MLS
Australian League
Rest of Bundesliga
Serie A
Celtic
Other teams in the Champions League

- giant gap -

Rest of English and Scottish football

They should be ashamed of their lower league coverage. Luckily, the Internet exists so it doesn't matter.
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I am an editor at the Guardian (not in the sports department) and I agree with the above. We are no worse than any other paper (not an excuse, just an observation) – they are all obsessed with the Premier League. And most of the time they are saying how wonderful it all is. Unlike politics, say, when it comes to football all the newspapers (and the BBC is even worse) are afraid to do a proper reporting job and seriously criticise the big clubs and managers or question the shocking way the game is run. The only exception to this is the Guardian's David Conn who isn't afraid to lift up the stones and write about the slugs crawling around underneath our great game.
There's not enough space in the print version of the paper to cover lower leagues properly but no reason at all why it could not be done online, but the fact is that they are not very interested and they don't think their readers are either.
 
Worksop II said:
Where do you think Newbury really lives, Newry, Newby ..................... just wondering :rolleyes:
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I have lived in Newbury for eight years. I lived in London before that, and Sheffield before that. If the Guardian was a bit nearer, I'd still live in Sheffield.
Very few Guardian journalists live in fancy places like Hampstead or Clapham. Quite a few do live in the cheaper (a relative term when Cameron thinks homes costing £450,000 are "affordable") areas of London.
Some of them, a minority, could not point at Sheffield or anywhere else north of Stoke Newington on a map.
 
Newbury Blade said:
I am an editor at the Guardian (not in the sports department) and I agree with the above. We are no worse than any other paper (not an excuse, just an observation) – they are all obsessed with the Premier League. And most of the time they are saying how wonderful it all is. Unlike politics, say, when it comes to football all the newspapers (and the BBC is even worse) are afraid to do a proper reporting job and seriously criticise the big clubs and managers or question the shocking way the game is run. The only exception to this is the Guardian's David Conn who isn't afraid to lift up the stones and write about the slugs crawling around underneath our great game.
There's not enough space in the print version of the paper to cover lower leagues properly but no reason at all why it could not be done online, but the fact is that they are not very interested and they don't think their readers are either.
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The thing that really riles me is the coverage of the A league and MLS. I know the paper wants clicks from those countries but those leagues are league one standard at best. There are good players in both leagues but the games are better in our league one. Plus United are out drawing a number of the teams in those leagues. They are not worth the coverage they get.

We also don't need 5 articles a day on the same teams saying the same thing. Perhaps people read them - I don't. But then again that World bores me. I have seen the grand total of 1 Champions League game in the last 10 years, for example.
 



Revolution said:
The thing that really riles me is the coverage of the A league and MLS. I know the paper wants clicks from those countries but those leagues are league one standard at best. There are good players in both leagues but the games are better in our league one. Plus United are out drawing a number of the teams in those leagues. They are not worth the coverage they get.

We also don't need 5 articles a day on the same teams saying the same thing. Perhaps people read them - I don't. But then again that World bores me. I have seen the grand total of 1 Champions League game in the last 10 years, for example.
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Agreed but some people may not be aware that we have as many readers in the US as in the UK, and a huge operation in New York (with offices in Washington, Los Angeles and San Francisco too). It's no longer a British paper in that sense. It has changed incredibly in the last few years.
Those of us who still work on just the UK print editions of the paper (i.e. not the international web version) increasingly feel we belong to a bygone age – it's like the blokes at the start of The Full Monty (with me in the Robert Carlisle role wearing a Blades shirt.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Reasonable unpleasantness is acceptable then?
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"... there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know."
 
Newbury Blade said:
Agreed but some people may not be aware that we have as many readers in the US as in the UK, and a huge operation in New York (with offices in Washington, Los Angeles and San Francisco too). It's no longer a British paper in that sense. It has changed incredibly in the last few years.
Those of us who still work on just the UK print editions of the paper (i.e. not the international web version) increasingly feel we belong to a bygone age – it's like the blokes at the start of The Full Monty (with me in the Robert Carlisle role wearing a Blades shirt.
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Oh I know why it's done: but it's flawed. Most soccer fans in the U S and Oz support English teams. Many see their local leagues as inferior. You're chasing clicks that aren't there imho.

Plus there are better places to get info on those leagues.
 
Newbury Blade said:
I have lived in Newbury for eight years. I lived in London before that, and Sheffield before that. If the Guardian was a bit nearer, I'd still live in Sheffield.
Very few Guardian journalists live in fancy places like Hampstead or Clapham. Quite a few do live in the cheaper (a relative term when Cameron thinks homes costing £450,000 are "affordable") areas of London.
Some of them, a minority, could not point at Sheffield or anywhere else north of Stoke Newington on a map.
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I think it was a joke about the Guardian's reputation for typos ('Grauniad')
 
Don't feel bad, it takes a lot to get them to mention the likes of Everton and Spurs when they play Man U. If you're not one of the big four, the media and in truth the vast majority of the public don't care.

It's why football bores me from time to time. ManUChelseaArsenalChelseaChelseaManUManUCityManU.....

Yawn.
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Surely a communist paper should be about equality, giving the smaller clubs the same level of attention and reward etc.? Surely only a purely Capitalist paper would only look at things from the richest, most successful club’s point of view?
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Communists are not about equality, well they are, they want those they rule to be all equally shit on the floor.
 



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