Goalkeeper?

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Do we need a new goalkeeper?

  • Yes

    Votes: 314 85.1%

  • No

    Votes: 55 14.9%
  • Total voters
    369
Champagneblade said:
Wes’ recent performances and decision making are pushing it up the scale. It’s certainly gone from would consider and wouldn’t mind a new keeper to this now being a serious discussion point. Only Wes can change that. But he cost us two points today because he made a decision and it was the wrong one and it contributed to a goal.
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Totally agree CB, and within my point about considering priorities a Wes replacement would have to be high on the agenda.
 



BiggerBladeThanThou said:
Wes kept us in it with two sublime saves. Be careful what you wish for.
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Any replacement has to be 100% right. No bedding in period & that type of player won’t come cheap & possibly no longer available on loan in January. We’ll have been paying a fortune to loan Henderson in 19/20
 
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I would be tempted to give Amissah a go at Man City away given that we're all expecting to lose that one anyway, and see how he compares, before rushing to recruit in January.
 
Stegosaurus said:
Hi Stegosaurus here

He also jumped like an absolute fanny and cost us the game.
Nobody denies he can do some decent saves. But he can't do the basic stuff. He can't distribute. Deals with crosses worse than Dracula. Doesn't command his box. Doesn't organise his defence. Is prone to doing something fucktarded.
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A few minutes earlier he makes a great save on the back post from a header by staying on his line

Then comes out, flaps like a fuckin seagull nicking my chips on skeggy sea front and we’ve dropped 2 points

The fuck up was not getting a decent no2/no1 to either push Wes or replace him

I would have gone for Dubravka in the summer, 3rd choice at Newcastle with EPL experience
 
We need a goalkeeper to challenge Wes for the shirt. We don't necessarily need to replace Wes as the starter
 
It would be interesting to be able to simulate the games under Hecky but with Ederson / Alisson in goal.

Yeah he’s made a few mistakes but also he’s made comfortably the most saves in the division.

It’s a little like Haaland… he scores the most goals but also as he takes the most shots he’s probably got the most missed shots in the division as well. Wes has been the busiest keeper, so he’s made the most saves but has also been forced into the most mistakes. Would be interesting to see how a world class keeper fared under the same conditions. The 10 infront of him have been often been on the scale somewhere between steaming hot dog shit and Luke warm dog shit at times. We look loads loads better again under Wilder - budget dependant I think we’re lighter in midfield, up top and in creative areas than we are with Wes. Personally think he’s done alright. His distribution is a bit frustrating at times and I wish he’d come flying out and caught that ball last night but he’s one of the least culpable in the squad imo
 
It'll be finding another up and coming gem like Henderson probably when we are back in the championship.

Thinking about it though we made a profit on ramsdale and got wes for free, so we've spent nothing on a keeper in god knows how long.
 
We need another keeper. Question is what's realistic for us to sign.

Love Wes but there's no need to lie and pretend he isn't one of the weakest keepers at this level. Even if I'm wrong about Wes, God knows what happens to us if he gets injured. I wasn't happy with our options there at Championship level.

Problem for us is the usual budget and future planning issues. Spending big on a keeper only to end up in the Championship would be a mistake.
 
We should be looking for better than Wes. A decent understudy at PL level and a guy I respect. But that's his level. We should have a better keeper who isn't as prone to clusterfucks the type of which cost us dearly last night. It's becoming a little too regular and we need to give our team and defence more confidence that if they battle all day for 3 points, they aren't going to see all their good work go out the window due to another bollock being dropped by their keeper.

We really need another decent option for the keepers spot and that itself should help drive up the performance levels of Wes and help him focus on his game more. All players say that competition is good for their individual levels of performance. It worked very well under Bassett when we had Kelly and Tracey pushing each other and we ended up with the best pair of keepers in English football.
 
Been a big Wes fan but clearly he's just a good championship GK. Makes very good shot stopping saves but that's the minimum for a keeper. He's abit clumsy in the commanding area and scares the fuck outta me when ball at his feet, either out of play or to the opposition.
 
Weasel said:
We should be looking for better than Wes. A decent understudy at PL level and a guy I respect. But that's his level. We should have a better keeper who isn't as prone to clusterfucks the type of which cost us dearly last night. It's becoming a little too regular and we need to give our team and defence more confidence that if they battle all day for 3 points, they aren't going to see all their good work go out the window due to another bollock being dropped by their keeper.

We really need an other decent option for the keepers spot and that itself should help drive up the performance levels of Wes and help him focus on his game more. All players say that competition is good for their individual levels of performance. It worked very well under Bassett when we had Kelly and Tracey pushing each other and we ended up with the best pair of keepers in English football.
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100%

Imagine someone saying to you at work
“Doesnt matter how shit you do, you’ll still get paid and play as your understudy is about as useful as a dildo in a nunnery”

I would genuinely say the pairing of Tracey & Kelly were, and still are, the best 2keepers I have seen at one club at the same time
Raya & Ramsdale are in n the media for both been a No1, but I’d take both ST or AK over them
Alison & Ederson probably better, but back up is shite
 
Yes, because out of all of the positions GK is the only one where we don't have any serious competition for places.
 



Wes is starting to cost us when we need him most, seems slow in making decisions and his kicking is shocking. All keepers make good saves, it's what they're paid for, but a good solid keeper can gain you points and settle the defence too. I'd go for Johanson, Cooper or even Gunn, maybe include Davies in the deal
 
In January, no, this probably wouldn’t be in my list of top three or five priorities. Someone to compete with him for the shirt next season in the Championship—yes.
 
Wes is not Premier League quality, if we are honest. I was surprised that we didn't bring in a keeper in the close season, as his understudies are barely championship level.
 
The problem with Wes is he is always liable to make a big mistake recently he is making a mistake every game and you can't do that at this level. For a Premier League keeper his kicking and distribution is awful you can't afford to play out from the back with a keeper who's other leg is only used for standing on. Hecky should have seen that months ago and told him to get rid if under pressure. I think Wes will only ever be a number 2 at this level.
 
Wilder signed him as back up what - 4 years ago? Doubt he thinks he’s up to being number 1 now. Think we’ll get a goalie in January.
 
He gave the rest of the league a blue print how to beat him. Crossing from an angle to just outside the six yard box. It's not the first time his decisions in that area have looked suspect. It was the first goal he conceded but I'm sure Luton will expose it with their tall forwards. Wes, get some practice in over the weekend!!!
 
S64 Blade said:
Can we wish for 3 saves?

Joking aside, I get your point and he’s been a great servant for the club and still makes top saves. But it’s the lapses in concentration, poor decision making and bad kicking that’s costing us at times. He was brought here as 2/3rd choice when we were last in this league.

If we want to progress, we need someone better. My option would be Johansson at Rotherham. Wouldn’t cost the earth and I’m guessing living local might help sway it, if he’s settled. BUT, all this is conjecture as we don’t really have a clue what finances we have available and we need some outfield players too.

I don’t hold any malice towards Wes and he’s been one of our best players for the past couple of years, but his flaws are regularly being exposed.
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Aye
Johansson is the perfect replacement.
Accustomed to getting pumped (most) every week in a(nother) struggling bottom of table team that (also) concedes an average of well over 2 goals a game in a league lower
 
Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn said:
Aye
Johansson is the perfect replacement.
Accustomed to getting pumped (most) every week in a(nother) struggling bottom of table team that (also) concedes an average of well over 2 goals a game in a league lower
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You are aware that goals conceded aren’t always the goalkeeper’s fault? Rotherham fans aren’t having similar debates that we are on Wes, about Johansson - quite the opposite.
 
Muttley said:
At that point in the game, and 1-0 up we shouldnt have let them near. Wes simply HAD to be more decisive. It cost us 2 very valuable points.
Yes he pulled off 2 earlier saves, but that's his job.
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Aye
Like Hamer’s job was to stay on his feet
Like Bogle’s job was to get closer (block the cross)
Like Trusty’s job was to attack the cross

NB - NOT a dig @ any of the above
 
S64 Blade said:
You are aware that goals conceded aren’t always the goalkeeper’s fault? Rotherham fans aren’t having similar debates that we are on Wes, about Johansson - quite the opposite.
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Aye
Perhaps because the “Rotherham fans” are more realistic / tolerant about their situation & squad (that has conceded >50 goals) than “we” are ?
 
For me it's about finding a keeper who will do a better job than Adam Davies when it comes to competing with Wes for a spot. Wes has done well overall but we owe it to ourselves and him to get more competition.
 
BettingBlade said:
Do we need a new one?
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yes. I like Wes but he needs propper competition as do all players. If he gets injured, suspended or loses form (as he may be doing now, 3 goals with his name on in 5 or 6 games) then we don't have an alternative 1st choice. Needed in the Prem .
 
As a PROFESSIONAL Goalkeeper we all expect Wes to make ‘saves’, so anyone justifying him because he has made ‘saves’ - not buying it.

Reality is, we are in the PREMIERSHIP - the elite of professional footballers. Wes in the PREM makes far too many mistakes. He’s NOT Premiership quality.
 



Peaktrade said:
……Reality is, we are in the PREMIERSHIP - the elite of professional footballers. Wes in the PREM makes far too many mistakes. He’s NOT Premiership quality.
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Aye
Substitute “”Wes” for any /all other players
Then consider (conclude) why we are bottom of the PREMIERSHIP
 
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