Incoming? Gary O’Neil linked as Manager

[Berkshire Blade]

"Any daft bugger can play Northern Premier level" REALLY???

Whilst it may not be Championship level it's certainly not "daft bugger" level

Yep I have seen players at that level name it as pros and others not make it and the difference between them wasn't huge

I thought it was roughly 1 million each for Caceres and Nwachukwu. Granted, that's quite a lot for two young players we knew (and still know) very little about, but if even one of them can end up becoming a decent level championship player, they'll be worth it.

Compare that to the peck/One type fees... I doubt they were millions.

 

[Blade45]

That's INSANE money for a Championship club to spend on random foreign players who are nowhere near first team standard.

A millions including large add-ons, fine, but as a fee, fucking hell!

It is quite a lot. Again, I'd be interested to see what the AI specifically said about them. What kind of traits do they have that justify a high fee?

Compare that to the peck/One type fees... I doubt they were millions.

I don't know about Peck but One was apparently 125k. The difference probably being that One was an academy signing whilst Caceres, Nwachukwu, and Ukaki had played men's football.

 

[Drachblade]

It is quite a lot. Again, I'd be interested to see what the AI specifically said about them. What kind of traits do they have that justify a high fee?

I don't know about Peck but One was apparently 125k. The difference probably being that One was an academy signing whilst Caceres, Nwachukwu, and Ukaki had played men's football.

I believe Pecky was around 300k and 1 of Wilder's last transfers

 

[Frank the tank]

That's INSANE money for a Championship club to spend on random foreign players who are nowhere near first team standard.

A millions including large add-ons, fine, but as a fee, fucking hell!

Why are you being such a cavernous fanny ?

 

[Berkshire Blade]

It is quite a lot. Again, I'd be interested to see what the AI specifically said about them. What kind of traits do they have that justify a high fee?

I don't know about Peck but One was apparently 125k. The difference probably being that One was an academy signing whilst Caceres, Nwachukwu, and Ukaki had played men's football.

One had played 20 up in Scotland. Scottish championship and league one so not the highest level but he was 16/17!

 

[Sean Thornton]

I thought it was roughly 1 million each for Caceres and Nwachukwu. Granted, that's quite a lot for two young players we knew (and still know) very little about, but if even one of them can end up becoming a decent level championship player, they'll be worth it.

Any link anywhere to that price?

If you say “Bettis said” you have to provide a bona fide link because it’s become one of the three biggest lies along with the cheques in the post and l won’t c - well you know the rest……

 

[Nick Jansky]

there’s little need to be so censorious / prescious.

You have been hugely censorious/precious about Wilder on a thread you have started this evening, so I don’t think you can really go down that road without looking hypocritical.

 

[Blade45]

Any link anywhere to that price?

If you say “Bettis said” you have to provide a bona fide link because it’s become one of the three biggest lies along with the cheques in the post and l won’t c - well you know the rest……

This is according to Transfermarkt (I have no idea where they got it from), Nwachukwu was bought for 1.2 million euros and Caceres was bought for 1.4 million euros, so roughly 1 million GBP for them each.

I am happy to be corrected though, if I have gotten it wrong.

 

[Frank the tank]

The three lads that seem to be the centre of so much controversy are development players

Were signed by the owners using money outside the managers playing budget and he is under no pressure or obligation to play them

So what's the fucking big deal. ?
Unbunch your panties and find summat else to cry about

 

[LondonRoad]

It wouldn't have got you promoted the previous season either, and I dare say it won't in the coming one.

If the top two didn't get 100 points, United would probably have more points. If it wasn't for VAR United would probably have been promoted. anomalies. No other manager would have done better

 

[Darren William]

That's INSANE money for a Championship club to spend on random foreign players who are nowhere near first team standard.

A millions including large add-ons, fine, but as a fee, fucking hell!

 I was reading a article earlier about these Bulgarians league players saying the other African lad nwachukwa won't make the team !

 

[Blade45]

I believe Pecky was around 300k and 1 of Wilder's last transfers

He must be worth 50 times that now.

One had played 20 up in Scotland. Scottish championship and league one so not the highest level but he was 16/17!

You're right, he actually played quite a lot for a young lad. Still only 18 now.

I am not opposed to the signings Ukaki, Caceres, and Nwachukwu. I think they need to be given time to develop, one of them could be really good. Or maybe they all could be.

 

[Scarebus]

He must be worth 50 times that now.

You're right, he actually played quite a lot for a young lad. Still only 18 now.

I am not opposed to the signings Ukaki, Caceres, and Nwachukwu. I think they need to be given time to develop, one of them could be really good. Or maybe they all could be.

They may just end up recouping some loan fees in league 1/2 level football and go on their way at contract end with a work permit and some hours under their belt in mens football. If that's the case, then whatever.

 

[Aston max]

Guys can we stop arguing about all this now and I'm as guilty as anyone, in all my years I've never known a blades fan base as divided as it is atm.
It looks 90% by all the rumour and conjecture he's gone . Let's do what we've always been good at and get behind the club ,whoever the next coach/DOF is .
Hopefully an announcement early next week and we’ll have a good pre season and sign all the "quality " players we need .
No ageing last payday pensioner's and loans from the epl to help them with ffp .

 

[Nick Jansky]

He must be worth 50 times that now.

You're right, he actually played quite a lot for a young lad. Still only 18 now.

I am not opposed to the signings Ukaki, Caceres, and Nwachukwu. I think they need to be given time to develop, one of them could be really good. Or maybe they all could be.

If just one of them turns out to be decent it could pay for itself several times over.

 

[Blade45]

If just one of them turns out to be decent it could pay for itself several times over.

The signings intrigue me, because I honestly don't know what to expect. I hope they all turn out well, of course.

An interesting thing to note is that Nwachukwu and Ukaki both played in the Europa League. Nwachukwu even scored.

 

[Frank the tank]

 I was reading a article earlier about these Bulgarians league players saying the other African lad nwachukwa won't make the team !

Who wrote the article marty mcfly. ?

 

[Sean Thornton]

This is according to Transfermarkt (I have no idea where they got it from), Nwachukwu was bought for 1.2 million euros and Caceres was bought for 1.4 million euros, so roughly 1 million GBP for them each.

I am happy to be corrected though, if I have gotten it wrong.

Transfermarket? Says we paid £2.6m in February for them written down to £1.6m now. Must’ve been reading this forum.

 

[Blade45]

Transfermarket? Says we paid £2.6m in February for them written down to £1.6m now. Must’ve been reading this forum.

They aren't very reliable then, I suppose. I don't think they list their sources or anything.

Has anyone actually got a clue how much they cost?

 

[loyalblade95]

This is according to Transfermarkt (I have no idea where they got it from), Nwachukwu was bought for 1.2 million euros and Caceres was bought for 1.4 million euros, so roughly 1 million GBP for them each.

I am happy to be corrected though, if I have gotten it wrong.

Not bad fees if true, considering Benie Traore, who was roughly the same age when we signed him but slightly more experienced than Caceres and Nwachukwu, was around £3.5-4m?

Slimane was the older of the 2 (him and Traore) and cost less didn't he?

 

[Blade45]

Not bad fees if true, considering Benie Traore, who was roughly the same age when we signed him but slightly more experienced than Caceres and Nwachukwu, was around £3.5-4m?

Slimane was the older of the 2 (him and Traore) and cost less didn't he?

That’s true. If that fee is correct (and that’s a big if), it might not be an overpay. Could just be the going rate for a promising youngster nowadays.

I would’ve liked to see Benie this season. Did very well in Switzerland.

 

[loyalblade95]

That’s true. If that fee is correct (and that’s a big if), it might not be an overpay. Could just be the going rate for a promising youngster nowadays.

I would’ve liked to see Benie this season. Did very well in Switzerland.

Same here, given how BT was used in those first few preseason games last summer, I thought we'd see him last season, but we sold him that summer instead.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Looking closer to home, David Brooks. Went from being a skinny kid easily pushed off the ball to a player who fights to hold on to it. Ditto with Arblaster. Not about your size, it's about your determination.

Aye
There was also a lad who began playing football with the French clubs Rouen Sapins, Rouen, and Marseille before moving to Senegal with Dakar Sacré-Cœur.
He then moved to England and joined the youth side of Boreham Wood, also playing Sunday League matches with Rising Ballers to keep fit, in addition to representing his school Westminster Academy.
On 31 August 2019 he signed for Sheffield United and then joined Hyde United on loan for the latter half of the 2019–20 season making 6 appearances.
He made his professional debut with Sheffield United as a late substitute in a 5–0 Premier League loss to Leicester City on 14 March 2021.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

But you have no idea what the quality of the Peruvian league is. And elite players have emerged from even the smallest of leagues.

Aye
My entire knowledge of Peruvian football is predicated upon the 1970 World Cup & being entranced by a glorious jersey as worn by the equally glorious Teófilo Cubillas.
Oh, and a bloke called ‘Nobby’ that turned out for Spewcastle, & later managed Blyth Spartans

 

[54yrblade]

Aye
My entire knowledge of Peruvian football is predicated upon the 1970 World Cup & being entranced by a glorious jersey as worn by the equally glorious Teófilo Cubillas.
Oh, and a bloke called ‘Nobby’ that turned out for Spewcastle, & later managed Blyth Spartans

I've still got the Subbuteo team.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

The three lads that seem to be the centre of so much controversy are development players

Were signed by the owners using money outside the managers playing budget and he is under no pressure or obligation to play them

So what's the fucking big deal. ?
Unbunch your panties and find summat else to cry about

We have finite resources due to FFP, and also assuming our owners aren't "mega-wealthy."

Its ok to question whether the allocation of those resources are better spent on players the manager wants, or AI punts.

We didn't sign JJK or Jimmy Dunne in January as we wouldn't meet the asking price. But we did spend (potentially) £2m on Caceres and Nwankchuku.
Might we have been promoted if we'd given Wilder the players he wanted?

 

[Frank the tank]

We have finite resources due to FFP, and also assuming our owners aren't "mega-wealthy."

Its ok to question whether the allocation of those resources are better spent on players the manager wants, or AI punts.

We didn't sign JJK or Jimmy Dunne in January as we wouldn't meet the asking price. But we did spend (potentially) £2m on Caceres and Nwankchuku.
Might we have been promoted if we'd given Wilder the players he wanted?

But as has been stated these signings are not from the managers playing budget then that's irrelevant
Even suggestions that cannon was also outside of the budget in the same way mcburnie and mousse were outside of wilders budget unde mccabe and the Prince

I'm sure we could have signed dunne if we'd wanted and similarly with Kenny without it affecting these signings in the same way that signings dor the women's team or a new pitch doesn't affect the budget

 

[Berkshire Blade]

But as has been stated these signings are not from the managers playing budget then that's irrelevant
Even suggestions that cannon was also outside of the budget in the same way mcburnie and mousse were outside of wilders budget unde mccabe and the Prince

I'm sure we could have signed dunne if we'd wanted and similarly with Kenny without it affecting these signings in the same way that signings dor the women's team or a new pitch doesn't affect the budget

Everything effects the budget from the academy to the women's side to the petty cash it's all from the same pot at the end of the day

 

[Frank the tank]

Everything effects the budget from the academy to the women's side to the petty cash it's all from the same pot at the end of the day

Its not

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

I've still got the Subbuteo team.

Aye
Would be useless for us in 2025:-
Too small
Not robust enough (brittle).
Static - only shift with ‘direction from above’
Rigid - especially the keeper who appears to have arthritis in his arms (& needs a pole up his arse to ‘encourage’ any movement
Move like they’re carrying a ‘dead weight’ in their boots
Despite being far bigger than their team mates the designated corner & throw in takers were useless & never got the ball anywhere near the intended target
Original from that era probably set you back around a million mind