Incoming? Gary O’Neil linked as Manager

[Englebert Wincobank]

O’Neill has links to Terry Robinson. Sorry I mean Des Taylor.

 

[loyalblade95]

Quite uninspiring to go from Wilder to O'Neill, even if he's got connections at United and links to one of our rumoured targets.

Might have been in the pipeline for weeks as well (final was only 3 weeks ago), hence why it seems like it's so advanced right now.

Problem is, O'Neill is going to have the same issue as any other new manager (which Wilder doesn't have), is that he has to build a rapport with the players and he has to do it quickly, Moore aside, none of them have worked with him previously.

As other people have mentioned on here, he has worked with Des Taylor at Bournemouth, so that's a positive I suppose.

It might explain the recent links to Mepham, who played frequently for Bournemouth under O'Neill, coincidentally, Moore also played quite a few times (mainly as a sub) for Bournemouth that season.

If Jimmy Dunne was going to sign for United under Wilder (as has been frequently rumoured), will he still want to sign for us if we have a different manager? I suppose we'll find out in next 2-3 weeks when his contract at QPR (30th June) ends.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Bristol City fans can't stand Tinnion and you won't find many Wolves or Bournemouth fans that are positive about O'Neill.

Pretty uninspiring stuff. .

Steve Cooper would be the outstanding candidate, in my opinion... but I presume he'd have the same issues with the recruitment model that Wilder reportedly has.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

There is a tiny nagging suspicion that these guys don’t know what the fuck they are doing.

On the flip side of the argument, last season we played a formation that favoured wingers but only had Brooks, who couldn't command or retain a starting place. Rak-Sayki came on a season long loan and was the same. Wilder crammed square pegs into round holes as he refused to change his formation to suit what he had at his disposal, but expected players to change to suit his system.

We only had one right back, Seriki, who was in and out of the team through injury. We brought in Gilchrist on loan, a centre back who was played at right back and struggled, Shackleton who was injured and crap, Clarke who was also crap, before we shoe horned in Choudhury, a central midfielder.

Clearly we had issues with these positions. So far the new owners have brought in three wingers and are now reportedly bringing in a right back. Don't know what they're doing? It seems to me they've been paying attention and are trying to fix the imbalance in the squad, perhaps because they don't trust Wilder because of the above.

The fact they are reportedly considering replacing Wilder suggests they are not happy with what they have seen, regardless of results. Whether these four players are expected to be used next season or are being signed to be developed for future campaigns remains to be seen. We still may sign players without AI driven data, after all they sanctioned the signings of Cannon, Clarke, Holding and Choudhury in January without AI data. We just don't know yet as the summer transfer window is still young.

Time will tell as to whether they know what they're doing or not. So far they've shown us that they've been paying attention.

As for O'Neil. It's all rumour at the moment. It's no more certain than rumours of Rohl coming to us.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Problem is, O'Neill is going to have the same issue as any other new manager (which Wilder doesn't have), is that he has to build a rapport with the players and he has to do it quickly, Moore aside, none of them have worked with him previously.

Arne Slot?

Turned out fine for him with a squad of players that he barely knew.

Scott Parker?

Turned out fine for him with a squad of players that he barely knew.

 

[Thrice]

I actually thought O'Neill did pretty well at Bournemouth keeping them in the league after their disastrous start under Parker. Iraola has put that into perspective though.

His time at Wolves wasn't great. Not sure what to think of him now.

 

[JayGreen17]

He’s so boring… please no… he’s not what we need or want… he’s like the insipid conjoined twin

 

[JayGreen17]

BIG GAY NOOOOO

 

[HeySethUTB]

Noooooooo to him and nooooooo to Tinnion he’s ex Wrexham the prick

 

[HeySethUTB]

Ohio’s Fancy Nancy….. yes please

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I think O'Neil is a promising manager tbh but I'd prefer Cooper - but I doubt he'll be interested in working with owners throwing infinity random players at him again, especially if the quality isn't even high

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I actually thought O'Neill did pretty well at Bournemouth keeping them in the league after their disastrous start under Parker. Iraola has put that into perspective though.

His time at Wolves wasn't great. Not sure what to think of him now.

O'Neil needs to reign in his post match comments a bit if he wants to be taken serious as a manager. Sometimes he makes valid points regarding VAR, added time, the Premier League biase towards bigger clubs, but when he makes these valid points he sounds like a flat earther! Like others have said I thought he did a decent job at Bournemouth given the difficult situation they were in. Wolves biggest problem under him was the number of goals they conceded from set pieces, something O'Neil did address in the media. We can relate to that given how poor we've been defending them in recent seasons.

 

[54yrblade]

Cooper won't come here, from a mate. Zero chance that's happening.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

I'm just convinced people don't like these suggestions because they don't fist bump their chest

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

If my aunt had a cock, she’d be my uncle what’s your point?

Aye
And if your aunt had a cock you’d have no cousins

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I think O'Neil is a promising manager tbh but I'd prefer Cooper - but I doubt he'll be interested in working with owners throwing infinity random players at him again, especially if the quality isn't even high

How do you know our owners will throw infinity random players at him? We've no idea how this summer will play out with regards to transfers, so let's not assume.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

O'Neil needs to reign in his post match comments a bit if he wants to be taken serious as a manager. Sometimes he makes valid points regarding VAR, added time, the Premier League biase towards bigger clubs, but when he makes these valid points he sounds like a flat earther! Like others have said I thought he did a decent job at Bournemouth given the difficult situation they were in. Wolves biggest problem under him was the number of goals they conceded from set pieces, something O'Neil did address in the media. We can relate to that given how poor we've been defending them in recent seasons.

Aye
Add that to (part of) his thickipedia entry:-
“O'Neil also struggled with discipline in his final two games, with both ending in brawls; Mario Leminalost the captaincy for a confrontation with West Ham's Jarrod Bowen, while Rayan Aït-Nouri was sent off after the Ipswich game, which also saw Matheus Cunha appear to fight with staff from the opposing club. O'Neil said he "never had such a struggle" to coach players”

Maybe this is AI in all its glory identifying the perfect replacement for Wilder

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

I can’t defend Wilder anymore,the bottom line is,we should have been promoted last season,simple as that.The shameful capitulation at Wembley to a very poor Sunderland side was the final stroke and unfortunately the failure is the managers fault……sorry Chris,but it’s not good enough.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Wow . I suppose we'll get what we deserve. It usually happens that way.

 

[Danetheblade]

Aye
And if your aunt had a cock you’d have no cousins

Depends if my uncle had a fanny

 

[Shadota]

Anybody wanting Wilder out is deluded. The club is where it is now, purely down to Wilder. 3rd division, for 6 years, under numerous managers. Wilder comes in, wheels and deals, gets us to 9th in the Premier and still people moan. Of course makes mistakes. Pep Guardiola makes mistakes, doesn't make him a bad manager. Be careful what you wish for

That 9th placed finish was 5 years ago. Wilder shouldn't be allowed to ride the coattails of that season for half a decade, just because he's also a Blade.

While Wilder is heavily responsible for many of our most recent successes, he hasn't delivered any more, for any team, in a meaningful amount of time. If he's now only capable of delivering high positions in the Championship without getting promoted (which, ignoring all the debate about performances and such, is exactly what he has delivered this season), then why would we stick with him, when the ultimate goal is to be an established PL side?

 

[Nick Jansky]

We stayed up on confidence and momentum that had built up from the three prior seasons and a rock solid defence. We struggled to score goals, only 39 in 38 games and we failed to score altogther in many matches. We also had a unique system that teams couldn't figure out, but they did in the end and we stuck with it anyway.

Compare and contrast with Thomas Frank who not only kept Brentford in the EPL but has evolved their style at least 3 times and regularly changes formation and tactics during games. They have continued to progress despite losing players like Toney. They still have a budget that should see them relegated.

Few people had heard of Frank before he got the manager’s job but he is light years ahead of Wilder, and there will be plenty others like him out there, it’s a big world.

 

[Pintor75]

Dyche, Hessenhuttl,
Cooper & Pompey boss Mousinho to name a few would be in front of ONeil for me

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Dyche, Hessenhuttl,
Cooper & Pompey boss Mousinho to name a few would be in front of ONeil for me

I like Mousinho too and would also put him ahead of O'Neil.

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

So it seems the wilder replacement candidates are already written off because they weren’t born within 25 miles of the club.

 

[Slug]

O'Neil was very highly rated this time last year. Not sure what went so wrong at Wolves last season though. I did post a while ago though, that the new owners were big fans of him.....

The COH guys (Guessing mainly influenced by Des Taylor) are big fans of Gary O'Neill.

 

[54yrblade]

That 9th placed finish was 5 years ago. Wilder shouldn't be allowed to ride the coattails of that season for half a decade, just because he's also a Blade.

While Wilder is heavily responsible for many of our most recent successes, he hasn't delivered any more, for any team, in a meaningful amount of time. If he's now only capable of delivering high positions in the Championship without getting promoted (which, ignoring all the debate about performances and such, is exactly what he has delivered this season), then why would we stick with him, when the ultimate goal is to be an established PL side?

Many want to stick with him as he is what they want to be, or are

Personally, and like many of us, once I started work and had a family, I realised that drinking and acting like a kn*b in public was best left at the age of about 20

But I do appreciate that's not for everyone

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Granted he got us to 9th in a freak COVID season.

That's disingenuous, we all know it would likely have been higher than 9th had Covid not torpedoed our momentum.

 

[Blade56]

Errrmmmmm, O’Neil? Ok their club and if he’s prepared to do the owners bidding he’s an upgrade on Wilder being there under duress, clubs with internal issue fail, simple, look at manure.

O’Neil is not who I would expect (even though it was rumoured pre tekkova) but it’s not my club in ownership but it’s my club and I reserve the right to judge owners as much as I’ve judged and commented on Wilder.

It’s going to be interesting to see if they, their monneh and innovative approach can make us fit for purpose for promotion and PL stability cause we’ve proved several times since 2016 we currently aren’t.

 

[HOT CURRIE 10]

So it seems the wilder replacement candidates are already written off because they weren’t born within 25 miles of the club.

You have it there,’knows the club’ ‘he gets it’ ‘he’s a blade’ ‘got Pashun’ ‘took us to a 9th place finish’. It’s boring and predictable from some of ours. I thought that lot of scrubbers lived in the past but quite a few of ours are drifting that way. I’ll say it again,that football in his second tenure has been nothing short of laborious,passive,square pegs in round holes,disjointed,embarrassing manager antics I’ve seen since Mickey Adam’s.