Fuck Sunderland.

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We were 2 up fair and square.
Then VAR makes a guest appearance for a championship game. Bitter? Me? Nah!
Yeah that's the biggest kick in the balls of all
A very subjective decision too ,one frame before it's ok one after it's ok but of course they find one that justifys wiping a goal off because that's what they do isn't it

And then to lose with the last kick of the game their second shot all match In a game they had. Basically conceeded at kick off until we somehow just didn't bother defending their first worthwhile attack
Just fuck off ,...who brought this back up again and why. ?
 
I'm bitter we lost the game still but not bitter at all seeing Sunderland do well. We just aren't set up to have the summer they had and would have been an embarrassment again . We might have even spent as much as them but, as we've seen, this club isn't in a position off the pitch to deliver consistent Premier League football on the pitch. We will likely need new owners again before we can even think about establishing ourselves
 
I'm bitter we lost the game still but not bitter at all seeing Sunderland do well. We just aren't set up to have the summer they had and would have been a disgrace to the league. We might have even spent as much as them but, as we've seen, this club isn't in a position off the pitch to deliver consistent Premier League football. We will likely need new owners again before we can even think about establishing ourselves
I think it's likely we will need new owners again before we have a chance of going up, never mind establishing ourselves
 
I think it's likely we will need new owners again before we have a chance of going up, never mind establishing ourselves
Sunderland this summer turned themselves from a championship club into a PL club both behind the scenes and on the pitch. We wouldn't have done that. We would have muddled through as usual and signed 5 or 6 players that 'might' have been good enough but most probably wouldn't have been.

Until our mentality changes from top to bottom we are better off being a championship team and not getting battered earlier single week
 
Sunderland this summer turned themselves from a championship club into a PL club both behind the scenes and on the pitch. We wouldn't have done that. We would have muddled through as usual and signed 5 or 6 players that 'might' have been good enough but most probably wouldn't have been.

Until our mentality changes from top to bottom we are better off being a championship team and not getting battered earlier single week
Better for us as fans maybe. Not better for our new owners unless they are happy funding £xm in losses every year.
 
Sunderland this summer turned themselves from a championship club into a PL club both behind the scenes and on the pitch. We wouldn't have done that. We would have muddled through as usual and signed 5 or 6 players that 'might' have been good enough but most probably wouldn't have been.

Until our mentality changes from top to bottom we are better off being a championship team and not getting battered earlier single week

Agree with this, I just think our overall attitude is small time. You’d think with clubs like Brentford establishing themselves in the Premier League and Palace winning the FA Cup we’d believe that we’re capable of achieving the same, but I think we just see ourselves as a Championship club.
 
Yeah I dont feel the same way about them as I do against Forest. We lost that game when our 2nd got chalked off, it wasnt really on them.
 
I'm actually glad to see Sunderland doing well, this season we desperately need to see a break in the cycle of newly promoted teams being relegated. The longer that continues the more of a private members club the premier League becomes. It also comes with the added bonus of potentially seeing Forest relegated, which would be lovely.
 
Better for us as fans maybe. Not better for our new owners unless they are happy funding £xm in losses every year.
It's their money and they can chuck it away to their hearts content , of which they have shown they are admirably capable.
I guess the only danger is the final solution of developing the freehold of the Lane into flats and the land at Dore into luxury mansions.
And then I can be free at last from my eternally painful obsession 🤣
 

I'm actually glad to see Sunderland doing well, this season we desperately need to see a break in the cycle of newly promoted teams being relegated. The longer that continues the more of a private members club the premier League becomes. It also comes with the added bonus of potentially seeing Forest relegated, which would be lovely.
I’ll always have a fondness for Sunderland…If they manage to stay up at the expense of the scabby ones.
 
Don't think I will ever get over that game
Still can't believe we lost it
It followed the pattern of all the bigger games, against those near the top of the league, that we needed to win.

When the pressure came on, we couldn't cope time and again.

We got what we deserved. Sunderland wanted it more, were fitter and drove to the end.

It was hugely predictable and the right team and club won.
 
It followed the pattern of all the bigger games, against those near the top of the league, that we needed to win.

When the pressure came on, we couldn't cope time and again.

We got what we deserved. Sunderland wanted it more, were fitter and drove to the end.

It was hugely predictable and the right team and club won.
Well we each have our own way of interpreting things based on our outlook on life and past experiences
 
I'm jealous of how Sunderland are doing because obviously we could have been in the PL but I don't think we'd have done anywhere near as well as you are. You've had big backing which helps but spent very well. Your manager is very good and it won't be long before he gets linked with more established clubs but I'd hope for Sunderland that he shows some loyalty.

I wish Sunderland all the best but at the same time I found the general preference to Wednesday on your forum somewhat off putting to say the least! Wednesday are now getting all this sympathy from everyone it seems and whilst I get that we haven't forgotten how arrogant and entitled they are from previous years, but thankfully not recently.

Everything suggests that our owners would've fucked it up if we got promoted.

James Bord & his poker mates would've recruited terribly and we'd probably have still had Selles overseeing it all.

One can wonder whether they might've attracted more investors, but I'm not sure they would have.

My only regret is that they might have pencilled in some of that money for the training ground / stadium improvements.

But the Prince never managed it as we always chased the dragon on survival even when it was obvious we couldn't compete.
That Summer transfer window of Slimani, Traore & co... we may as well have not bothered.
 

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