For Those Who Want A New Manager - Realistic Suggestions For A Manager Better Than Wilder

[UTB Blade]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:
























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[HillmortonBlade]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:
























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I don’t have a suggestion, but do consider that despite the impressive record, we have to judge based on the more recent history. And more importantly on the immediate and longer term future. IF we need a rebuild, the owners will decide if they had confidence in Wilder to achieve this.

 

[FMBlade1]

Steve Cooper.
Sean Dyche.

Both of those know how to get teams out of the Championship.

Not saying Wilder should go but it'd be foolish not to consider what's out there (in private).

 

[ml1997]

Steve Cooper.
Sean Dyche.

Both of those know how to get teams out of the Championship.

Not saying Wilder should go but it'd be churlish not to consider what's out there (in private).

Cooper’s no better than Wilder. Dyche would never come and there’s nothing to suggest to me he’d definitely be any better. And he’d be on massive money.

 

[Boxer Blade]

Pep could be available, he's got a good record, see, I know a good manager when I see one.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

Steve Cooper would be the main choice. He would get us promoted and we'd play bloody good football doing it too. On top of that he is very well connected in the game.

To say that a replacement would have to match Wilder's previous achievements is laughable. The current Wilder can't get us promoted compared to the old one. The current Wilder relegated us twice. The current Wilder would not be able to get us 9th in the Premier League.

You can't keep living in the past. The old Wilder is gone and the new one is shadow of his former self and an inferior version.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

Wouldn't want Dyche, as could envisage the football being served up would be shitty.

 

[Aston max]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:
























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Evening Chris

 

[Wincobank S9 Blade]

Wilders achilles heel may be the love he has for United, he’s too emotionally involved and that’s not a bad thing obviously he’s a fan of the club.

Think he’ll stay but to play devils advocate I’d look at Steve Cooper, Liam Rosenior, Alexander Blessing, Will Still.

 

[Shadota]

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this

Why does a new manager need to one-up Wilder's past achievements? If you're going to pose a question with such stringent limitations, you may ask well find an empty room and ask in there.

I remain an advocate for Liam Manning. He was certainly 2nd best in the playoff games, but his tactical approach is more fluid, more dynamic, and more positive than Wilder. I think he would get a lot more out of this squad than Wilder has. And that's accounting for our 90-point tally this season.

Alternatively, Sean Dyche has a track record of not only promotion from this league, but of sustaining Premier League status against the odds.

Wilder has got a significant list of accolades to his name, many of them with us. But he also has a record of failures with us too.

In particular, his record in the transfer market, specifically when he has a healthy budget, is lacking to say the least. Of the players bought since he first led us to the PL, I'd argue that only Berge can be considered anything close to a success.

His actions in that 2nd PL season, when denied additional transfer funds, are wholly unbecoming. Opting to leave, rather than battle on with the squad he built, speaks very poorly to his character.

Last season can be glossed over to a degree, as he was ade captain of a ship that had started sinking long beforehand. But this season, he's assembled a squad packed with upper-Championship, to lower-PL talent, and has often had them playing within themselves, as if afraid of giving the game away. Which, ironically, is exactly what we did yesterday.

One of 2 things is desperately required this summer: evolution, or revolution.

Either Wilder reinvents himself, and this team, and sets up to take the Championship by storm. Or he, and his staff, are replaced by someone else who is prepared to do the same.

 

[YES Blade]

Wouldn't want Dyche, as could envisage the football being served up would be shitty.

Can’t be any worse than Wilder’s football this season!

 

[Nick Jansky]

Wilders achilles heel may be the love he has for United, he’s too emotionally involved and that’s not a bad thing obviously he’s a fan of the club.

Think he’ll stay but to play devils advocate I’d look at Steve Cooper, Liam Rosenior, Alexander Blessing, Will Still.

We missed out on Rosenior in the summer. I’d have loved him, but he’s levels above us now. I think he’ll end up managing Chelsea.

I think Still has been announced at Southampton?

I would take either of the other two, but I’d be casting the net wider.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

We got 92 points in the regular season, didn't play all that great a few times but it's a results business so the regular season was a success. We fucking smashed Bristol City twice in the playoffs and we lost in the final because of a disallowed goal that should have stood and even though it didn't, it was individual errors from the players that lost us the game and cost us promotion.

Some of you lot live in a parallel universe, all you do is whinge about Wilder and it's win, lose or draw for fucks sake. Cooper, as well as being an ugly cunt isn't a great manager. Dyche??? Fucking hell if you think the football's dull under Wilder then look at some of the performances from this fucking cave dwellers teams.

I know we're all hurting and want to let the world know but fucking hell, sometimes it's like listening to a bunch of mardy kids.

UTBFTP

 

[itsinyerblood]

Slightly bizarre OP. By that criteria Man Utd would never have appointed Moyes as Ferguson's successor.

Change happens, and often players, staff, and supporters have to adapt. What I did find puzzling was that by celebrating that list
of Wilder's achievements it omitted anything that could be construed as a negative, buying Cannon for example. Don't get me wrong, under Wilder the Blades have had some wonderful moments, none more so than the team of Coutts, Duffy, Fleck, JOC, Basham etc, but whilst I loved what Wilder has done with the Blades I also recognise that change is sometimes an inevitability.

Who knows if a new appointment will improve us? But I believe that not considering the possibility is to blindly embrace the past no matter what is happening to SUFC.

 

[Nick Jansky]

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this.

This is the fundamental flaw in your reasoning. The next manager doesn’t have to have a better record than Wilder. As of today, his record doesn’t count for much, it’s in the past. Iraola at Bournemouth doesn’t have Wilder’s record but there’s no doubt he’s a far superior manager, as is Glasner at Palace. Well done Regis Le Bris, he certainly outperformed Wilder this season with an inferior squad & budget.

What the next manager needs is the ability to drag this club forwards into the modern era and develop a much healthier and forward looking culture, getting rid of the parochialism that holds us back. And there will be loads of candidates out there.

I get that some of our fans shit themselves at the thought of change, but we won’t progress without it.

 

[JT89]

This is a ridiculous post.

Wilder didn't have any of the achievements you list when we first appointed him, we gave him to platform to achieve them. So why can't we give another manager the same platform to achieve similar and potentially better?

Arne Slot had never won the Premier league before he was appointed Liverpool manager, so by your logic he should never have been given the job because he would be under qualified.

This just sounds like the memes you see about job adverts requiring a degree and 10+ years experience for an entry-level role.

 

[Nick Jansky]

This is a ridiculous post.

Wilder didn't have any of the achievements you list when we first appointed him, we gave him to platform to achieve them. So why can't we give another manager the same platform to achieve similar and potentially better?

Arne Slot had never won the Premier league before he was appointed Liverpool manager, so by your logic he should never have been given the job because he would be under qualified.

This just sounds like the memes you see about job adverts requiring a degree and 10+ years experience for an entry-level role.

Spot on. The OP probably thought he was being quite clever but only succeeded in demonstrating a lack of critical thinking.

 

[TwoTonTed]

Hasenhuttl?

 

[jono_t2000]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:
























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Lol at this.

It's at the heart of everything anti-progressive that is Sheffield United Football Club.

Imagine an up and coming manager with a better percentage win rate not getting a chance because they had'nt achieved anything yet.

If every club was like this you'd have dinosaurs managing every Championship club because at one point 20 years ago they got a promotion done.

Do not let past performances overshadow future ambition.

If you don't agree that there are highly rated up and coming managers then you're in denial.

 

[Aston max]

Its academic until the owners have decided how to take things forward, I've heard rumours that Wilder is on 40k a week ( someone in the pub who knows his family, so pinch of salt)
At that level our pool of coaches should be fairly large
I keep banging on about Dominica todescu ( out of work after leaving Belgium job ) but would he lower his ambitions

 

[Nick Jansky]

I keep banging on about Dominica todescu ( out of work after leaving Belgium job ) but would he lower his ambitions

It depends if our new owner’s ambitions match his.

 

[paidsy]

Wilder has refused to budge from a system that everyone repeatedly called out as one that would cost us. It then did, both for the top 2 and in a ridiculous manner in the final.

I don’t necessarily know who IS the man. I am very comfortable in saying after 1.5 season that Wilder most definitely is not.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:
























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Had the 3rd biggest budget in the league. Finished 3rd playing a style of football that can kindly be described as cautious. Missed out on an automatic promotion race by refusing to commit to attacking and controlling games. Authored a fantastic turnaround by leaning into the obvious attacking strength of his team but then re-folded and curled up into a protective shell on the biggest stage.

Wasted a collosal Championship fee on Cannon that is, post non-promotion an unmitigated disaster. Refused to consider removing Robinson from the team despite his inability to play a forward pass to start an attack, despite having a better player available.

Never found a plan B for attacking without going through Hamer and preying. Rak-Sakyi (and maybe Brooks) was the only other player in the squad capable of creating a goal from nothing and he left him out of the squad for BBD who'd not played in a month and struggled in general.

What he did previously is irrelevant. The only question is whether he's capable of getting promotion next season with 3 PP teams + Birmingham. I don't think he will be

 

[Loco Blade]

Liam Rosenior . Said it before . Learning on the continent. Hull major fuck up letting him go

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Liam Rosenior

Would have loved LR at the lane. Probably now out of our reach.

 

[MayorOJC]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:

I respect Wilder a lot and am very thankful for everything he's done for us, but to borrow an investing phrase, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

The next manager we get in doesn't need to have that pedigree to be successful. Régis Le Bris doesn't have any LMA manager of the year awards, but he's going to be a premier league manager next season and Wilder isn't, despite his squad costing about as much as Tom Cannon.

To answer your question, my two picks would be Miron Muslić or Wilfried Nancy.

 

[Tom Bott]

The old Wilder is gone and the new one is shadow of his former self and an inferior version.

Started the season with 4 first team pro's.

Could only buy in August after selling.

Was told by the pro's on here that all the academy lads needed to go out on loan to Licoln City to get toughened up.

New owners only just in for the January transfer window.

How long will a new manager be given, 2 windows then out ?

Look across the city at how many managers they have had under Chansiri, ten I think and only one has got them anywhere near.

I suspect your reply will be that Le Bris has only been there for one season, though Sunderland have been assembling that squad for a number of seasons.

 

[UTB Blade]

I don’t have a suggestion, but do consider that despite the impressive record, we have to judge based on the more recent history. And more importantly on the immediate and longer term future. IF we need a rebuild, the owners will decide if they had confidence in Wilder to achieve this.

Out of the achievements I listed in the OP, two of them - win at least 28 matches, and accumulate at least 92 points, in one Championship season - relate to the 2024-25 season. It's impossible to get any more recent than the season that's just finished.

 

[FMBlade1]

As a few people have said it I have to ask:

Why should we give a stuff about quality of football?

By the way 92 points this season is irrelevant, we may have as well got 46 and finished 21st like Hull, the end outcome is the same= failure.

 

[UTB Blade]

Pep could be available, he's got a good record, see, I know a good manager when I see one.

I think most people know Pep is a good manager.

I also think most people know that he isn't a realistic suggestion for us at the present time.