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INTAKE BLADE said:
Not forgetting Liverpool fielding a wank team v Fulham who hadn’t won in ages. I’ve seen some shit times,Walsall upwards. Still only one club for me. Utb
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This still boils my piss to this day. One thing resting players for the Champions League (think they rested the 1st 2nd and 3rd team that day), but when the result could have a big impact on the domestic league should've been punished. Hated Rafa ever since.
 
We had to sail into a perfect storm of twattery that day
 
What I always found interesting in a "it could only happen to us" sort of way is that when we went down in 1994 we lost the same amount of games that season as Liverpool ..... who finished bloody 8th.
 
ucandomagic said:
Amazing to look at the table from that day. Apart from the 2 Manc clubs, 2 Liverpool clubs and top 3 London clubs only Newcastle, Wet Sham and Watford are there now. They have all been out as well - so only those 7 have stayed. Emphasises really strongly that staying in Prem for 10 years for most is an unlikely dream and you need to structure your finances to recognise that.
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Which is why I'm not bothered about getting into the PL any time soon - it's a cheats paradise. I'm sure Huddersfield, Brighton and Newcastle enjoyed last season much more than this. This season, Watford - and possibly Newcastle - will go back down (the authorities won't let West Ham go down...) so what good will the millions they've 'earned' in the PL do them? £100m for Sunderland finishing bottom but they're on the brink again. No amount of money will save you if you insist on shit managers and players.

The Wigan game proves that football can turn on a sixpence. The previous season (2005-06, when we got promoted to the PL), Brighton finished rock-bottom of The Championship and went down to the third tier.

And our neighbours at S6? They'd bought Rhodes and a mate at a United game said he was 'a waste of money'. I said, 'yes but if he gets the winning goal that takes Wednesday up, he'll have been worth every penny'. Litlle did we know that he'd bottle taking a penalty! :D

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But Wednesday would survive (for a bit) in the PL. They're as bent as they come.
 
The Villa game, and manner of the performance, I think influenced some of the changes we saw for that final game. Armstrong had a bit of a mare at Villa Park as I recall, and CKR had also been poor.

For those saying in the immediate aftermath that Davies should have started – he hadn’t started any since the injury in the West Ham game, and to be honest had been a bit mixed in his performances. I recall some that season talking about his unusual style being a liability.

The previous home game had been the win vs Watford. I’d argue we were similarly nervy in that game, but did enough to see it through. For that we had Jagielka in midfield. We basically went back to the line-up in that game, but brought Quinn in for Armstrong, and rejigged it so that Jagielka at right-back could deal with McCulloch (who had an aerial threat that Geary might not have been able to counter).

It’s a bit like the Wolves playoff final. The decision to start Rankine and Asaba based on their performances in the semi-finals were understandable, but clear fairly early into the game that they were the wrong choices. Warnock probably felt that moving Jagielka to right-back (historically a position he was very decent in) was a tactic Jewell hadn’t expected – and might have given us a tactical edge. My own preference would have been for us to revert back to the line-up vs West Ham, but I can’t with any confidence say the result would have been any different. I think mentally the players just froze from the weight of the occasion – and that the previous week’s set of results were still on the mind.
 
Pinchy said:
Comedy Gold, nay Comédie Noire, from the Bladey Blades of the day.

1. Don’t criticise the Everton player for giving away a truly ridiculously stupid penalty. He’s a club legend. Not his fault.

2. Hope he plays many more games for us. Keep wishing on that star! The car was already started and the sat-nav already programmed.

Come on Yags. Tell us all about it. It’s been over ten years now. Surely you’ve had time to give the matter a moment’s thought?



...haven’t you?
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My memory could be wrong on this (it often is, and it is best to try and forget relegation disaster days), but in my mind in the first half Jags came down the right-wing and put over a perfect centre over which Stead headed in for our equaliser. If that is the case, it would make Jags' master-plan one beyond even Baldrick's imaginings; it would have been easier to do a Kozluk and find row Z of the Kop.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
My memory could be wrong on this (it often is, and it is best to try and forget relegation disaster days), but in my mind in the first half Jags came down the right-wing and put over a perfect centre over which Stead headed in for our equaliser. If that is the case, it would make Jags' master-plan one beyond even Baldrick's imaginings; it would have been easier to do a Kozluk and find row Z of the Kop.
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Yes, that’s always been quite a tough one for the Jagielka Conspiracy Theorists to square as part of their Everton Handballer Movement.
 
felt utterly sick and couldnt believe we had gone down , had the feeling from half time TBH , with the rain pissing down on the last day of the season ( always seems to be a beautiful sunny day last day ) almost like the footballing gods were pissing on us from a great height !!!

unfortunately if you ignore all the cheating etc , we were still appalling away from home with tactics etc and made the odd very costly error at home ( Portsmouth and Everton imo we should have picked up wins and poor individual errors cost us ) -also think Davis should have started against Wigan - at their ground he was excellent against Heskey and at Bramall Lane Heskey ran the show IMO.


the fantastic feeling is , if/when we do go up under CW you just know we will not camp out in our own half and go into every game looking to score/win

think i felt just as sick when i heard Robson had been appointed though , thought it was a piss take and a joke !
anyone got a link from the days he was appointed ? didnt really come on here then and would be interested to see if anyone was in favour of it ?!
the joke was on us for the years that followed !
 
pesch the mini genius said:
felt utterly sick and couldnt believe we had gone down , had the feeling from half time TBH , with the rain pissing down on the last day of the season ( always seems to be a beautiful sunny day last day ) almost like the footballing gods were pissing on us from a great height !!!

unfortunately if you ignore all the cheating etc , we were still appalling away from home with tactics etc and made the odd very costly error at home ( Portsmouth and Everton imo we should have picked up wins and poor individual errors cost us ) -also think Davis should have started against Wigan - at their ground he was excellent against Heskey and at Bramall Lane Heskey ran the show IMO.


the fantastic feeling is , if/when we do go up under CW you just know we will not camp out in our own half and go into every game looking to score/win

think i felt just as sick when i heard Robson had been appointed though , thought it was a piss take and a joke !
anyone got a link from the days he was appointed ? didnt really come on here then and would be interested to see if anyone was in favour of it ?!
the joke was on us for the years that followed !
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https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/bryan-robson-is-our-new-manager.6812/

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/bryan-robson-on-sky.6788/

https://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/bryan-robson.9041/page-2
 
LoughboroBlade said:
The Villa game, and manner of the performance, I think influenced some of the changes we saw for that final game. Armstrong had a bit of a mare at Villa Park as I recall, and CKR had also been poor.

For those saying in the immediate aftermath that Davies should have started – he hadn’t started any since the injury in the West Ham game, and to be honest had been a bit mixed in his performances. I recall some that season talking about his unusual style being a liability.

The previous home game had been the win vs Watford. I’d argue we were similarly nervy in that game, but did enough to see it through. For that we had Jagielka in midfield. We basically went back to the line-up in that game, but brought Quinn in for Armstrong, and rejigged it so that Jagielka at right-back could deal with McCulloch (who had an aerial threat that Geary might not have been able to counter).

It’s a bit like the Wolves playoff final. The decision to start Rankine and Asaba based on their performances in the semi-finals were understandable, but clear fairly early into the game that they were the wrong choices. Warnock probably felt that moving Jagielka to right-back (historically a position he was very decent in) was a tactic Jewell hadn’t expected – and might have given us a tactical edge. My own preference would have been for us to revert back to the line-up vs West Ham, but I can’t with any confidence say the result would have been any different. I think mentally the players just froze from the weight of the occasion – and that the previous week’s set of results were still on the mind.
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It's also worth remembering that at the time Wigan were an established PL club with PL players, on paper they were better than us. All they had to do is play one game to their full ability to stay up. Whatever people think of Heskey, he was a regular England international and on that day he played like one. It's also worth remembering that we had one of the lowest wage bills in the league.

So, we can pick through the minutiae and say 'we should have done this and we shouldn't have done that' or look at the big picture and accept we had a bunch of lads that, in the main, lacked quality but gave it their all and only came up short by fractions, goal difference ffs. Watch the business end of the PL this season as the sides like Stoke and West Brom pull their fingers out of their arses and survive whilst the likes of Brighton and Huddersfield get dragged further down the table. It happens every season.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Relegation is always tough. 1981 was the one I found most depressing. If memory serves me right (and Mrs HBT reckons it often doesn't), we were only in the relegation spot for the last 10 minutes of that last game, we won something like 2 of the last 14 games, crowds were dipping down below 10,000 for some games, and it really felt as if the club could disappear without trace. 1994 and 2007 were relegations from the top division, and disappointing as that is, until the 1970s relegation to the second tier meant some years in that division, and then a return to the top. Going down to League 4 was a descent into the unknown.
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It was the last 5 minutes and what made things worse was that we were given a glimpse of salvation when we were awarded that dubious penalty a minute or two from the end. Failing to score made the relegation all the more unbearable. And to think only 6 years earlier we finished just 4 points behind the league champions.
 
I was 14 and watching at home. Obviously, the main points of the day stick in the memory. One thing I always think of though was the Sky commentator saying "the trap door is opening for Sheffield United" as the clock clicked over into injury time and we were taking a corner. Haunts me to this day.
 

Nothing different in 97 to what happens today. Clubs get promoted from the championship, same clubs often get relegated. 30k home crowds, good away days and some good games. Overall it was a memorable season. All be it, I'd completely washed it from memory that legend jags was the one that gave the penalty away and ultimately the goal that sent us down. I really believe that as the 'un fashionable' club in the prem that season, them at the top did us no favours. Tevez, several disciplinary issues we got penalised for, Liverpool throwing that game v Fulham, all ground us down. The season was literally one week too long. Warnock found his level also. Good championship manager, not an ounce more.
 
One of the absolute worst fucking days of my life.
The match, the result, the weather, all shit enough but.....
Our 2 kids were quite young back then and my Mum was looking after them at our house while myself and the Mrs went to the game. After the match My Missus wanted to go in the Sportsman on Denby Street to meet her relatives. I was reluctant because I wasn't drinking seeing as my Mum a) would not stay the night anywhere other than home and b) point blank refused to get a taxi home and so would require a lift from moi. So we stood in the Sportsman feeling really shitty, stone cold sober, watching everyone else get right royally hammered.
I had a missed call from my eldest Brother at full time which I couldn't take because of the noise and I forgot to return the call afterwards. On the way home from the Sportsman I had another call from him which I answered and it was his Wife saying that he'd been beating her and that she was going to get her Brother to come and sort him out or call the police. I could hear him shouting at her in the background. They had been fighting for weeks and both drinking heavily and this was a regular occurrence on a Sunday. She was by no means an angel and gave as good as she got, sometimes instigating it. The whole situation was a nightmare which saw my Brother arrested on 2 separate occasions.
When we arrived home after hanging up on them screaming at each other we found my Mum in a terrible state. He'd been ringing her screaming at her what was going on, then his Missus would take the phone off him and join in. My Mum kept hanging up cos she was trying to look after our kids but they kept ringing back. It was not the only example of them terrorising her. Once sending her an SD card with photos of my Brother's Wife's bruises.
After I calmed my Mum down (she was 73 at the time) I took her home. Then I rang my Brother and gave him a right round of fucks for what they were doing to my Mum. I didn't speak to him again until the night I had to tell him she'd had a massive stroke and was in hospital. The stroke had been brought on by my Mum having an irregular heartbeat brought on by stress. Stress caused by them 2 fuckers.
My Mum ended up in a nursing home for 5 and a half years during which time he visited her twice.
Sorry to bring anyone down but I don't tell many people about it because I'm embarrassed it happened to my family. It's nice to get it off my chest on here where I maintain a degree of anonymity.
All this proves my Eldest Brother and his Wife are complete cunts but not as much as Unsworth (back on topic there :D)
 
oldblade said:
It was the last 5 minutes and what made things worse was that we were given a glimpse of salvation when we were awarded that dubious penalty a minute or two from the end. Failing to score made the relegation all the more unbearable. And to think only 6 years earlier we finished just 4 points behind the league champions.
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These young uns don't know what it's like to suffer... Seriously, there have been many bad times since, and credit to all who have made it through the awful years before Wilder, but the shock to the system in 1981 to discover that we could get as low as Division 4 was something else. Clubs like ours didn't do things like that... And just as it is hard for us to appreciate the fact that in 1940 our parents and grandparents didn't know we would win WW2, in the same way (but trivial, I know), we didn't know at that moment that Division 4 would turn out to be be fun with Edwards and Morris, and that we would be on our way back eventually. Your description of the moment is a good one.
 
Bladesman said:
Whatever happened to Tinoblade, Keenzy and Sharpy?
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Tino seems to have mysteriusly disappeared, Sharpy had a massive flounce on account of being a bit of a twat, and Keenzy got married, and seems to be shackled by the tighest pair of salmon handcuffs known to mankind. He used to be a regular on here and a season ticket holder too, got married, almost no football and no internet either, or so it would seem.
 
shorehamview said:
Tino seems to have mysteriusly disappeared, Sharpy had a massive flounce on account of being a bit of a twat, and Keenzy got married, and seems to be shackled by the tighest pair of salmon handcuffs known to mankind. He used to be a regular on here and a season ticket holder too, got married, almost no football and no internet either, or so it would seem.
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I don't recall Sharpy having a flounce but I remember he didn't rate Monty either.

That is a fucking strong pair of handcuffs if it cuts out internet and football! I'd be getting those divorce papers filled in ASAP.
 
Pinchy said:
Comedy Gold, nay Comédie Noire, from the Bladey Blades of the day.

1. Don’t criticise the Everton player for giving away a truly ridiculously stupid penalty. He’s a club legend. Not his fault.

2. Hope he plays many more games for us. Keep wishing on that star! The car was already started and the sat-nav already programmed.

Come on Yags. Tell us all about it. It’s been over ten years now. Surely you’ve had time to give the matter a moment’s thought?



...haven’t you?
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I have noticed that when you are challenged over some of your more 'eye-catching' claims, you tend not to reply. I replied to this post on Thursday (post 68), with a fact that to my mind goes against your allegation, an allegation which I suspect borders on the libelous (conspiracy to defraud?). I would like to invite you again to respond to the specific point I raised, and (as in previous instances) I will draw my own conclusions from a failure to engage with the issue.
 
Billyblade said:
One of the absolute worst fucking days of my life.
The match, the result, the weather, all shit enough but.....
Our 2 kids were quite young back then and my Mum was looking after them at our house while myself and the Mrs went to the game. After the match My Missus wanted to go in the Sportsman on Denby Street to meet her relatives. I was reluctant because I wasn't drinking seeing as my Mum a) would not stay the night anywhere other than home and b) point blank refused to get a taxi home and so would require a lift from moi. So we stood in the Sportsman feeling really shitty, stone cold sober, watching everyone else get right royally hammered.
I had a missed call from my eldest Brother at full time which I couldn't take because of the noise and I forgot to return the call afterwards. On the way home from the Sportsman I had another call from him which I answered and it was his Wife saying that he'd been beating her and that she was going to get her Brother to come and sort him out or call the police. I could hear him shouting at her in the background. They had been fighting for weeks and both drinking heavily and this was a regular occurrence on a Sunday. She was by no means an angel and gave as good as she got, sometimes instigating it. The whole situation was a nightmare which saw my Brother arrested on 2 separate occasions.
When we arrived home after hanging up on them screaming at each other we found my Mum in a terrible state. He'd been ringing her screaming at her what was going on, then his Missus would take the phone off him and join in. My Mum kept hanging up cos she was trying to look after our kids but they kept ringing back. It was not the only example of them terrorising her. Once sending her an SD card with photos of my Brother's Wife's bruises.
After I calmed my Mum down (she was 73 at the time) I took her home. Then I rang my Brother and gave him a right round of fucks for what they were doing to my Mum. I didn't speak to him again until the night I had to tell him she'd had a massive stroke and was in hospital. The stroke had been brought on by my Mum having an irregular heartbeat brought on by stress. Stress caused by them 2 fuckers.
My Mum ended up in a nursing home for 5 and a half years during which time he visited her twice.
Sorry to bring anyone down but I don't tell many people about it because I'm embarrassed it happened to my family. It's nice to get it off my chest on here where I maintain a degree of anonymity.
All this proves my Eldest Brother and his Wife are complete cunts but not as much as Unsworth (back on topic there :D)
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That sucks mate, very sorry to hear that.
 
Bladesman said:
I don't recall Sharpy having a flounce but I remember he didn't rate Monty either.

That is a fucking strong pair of handcuffs if it cuts out internet and football! I'd be getting those divorce papers filled in ASAP.
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If he’d not flounced he’d still be on here. :D
 
LYDON said:
So.

How did you feel at the final whistle?
Were you at BDTBL or watching via TV?
If the 13 year cycle is to carry on, we need to achieve promotion in the next two seasons.

I love nostalgia....
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I was working that day. Had an unreal fugue state like quality about it. I can see in my mind exactly where I was when I realized we’d lost. Can’t believe it was 11 years ago, I had to work sundays as I had a midweek day off to look after my grandson. Jesus it’s incredible I can remember exactly where I was.

Also remember exactly where I was when Chelsea relegated us, driving through Worral near Oughtibridge, when I set off 15 minutes earlier we were safe !

When we went down to the 4th I was on a train coming back from London and some S6 fans got on at Leicester, that was fun, don’t know where they’d been playing, Leicester I presume ?

Wasn’t our last game in 1967 also against Chelsea. Whoever it was against I was stood at the back’of the Kop, lost a few home games 1-2 that season.

Thanks for the memories

I also « love nostalgia »
 
Could never cry through football though, although I filled up at the youth club in 1967 with all the stick I got from Leeds fans
 
Pinchy said:
Comedy Gold, nay Comédie Noire, from the Bladey Blades of the day.

1. Don’t criticise the Everton player for giving away a truly ridiculously stupid penalty. He’s a club legend. Not his fault.

2. Hope he plays many more games for us. Keep wishing on that star! The car was already started and the sat-nav already programmed.

Come on Yags. Tell us all about it. It’s been over ten years now. Surely you’ve had time to give the matter a moment’s thought?



...haven’t you?
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It is now a week since I made the first of 2 requests for you to answer the specific point I put to you, and you have failed to respond. I can only assume that as on previous occasions when some of your more colourful statements have been contested, you have no answer to give, and in the spirit of Trumpian fabrications, you simply move on, leaving the accusation out there; in this case, an outrageous slur on one of the finest players to play for the Blades this century. No doubt in years to come, when JOC has left the club after serving it well for many years, you will regale us with the tale of when, like Jags, he deliberately put his hands up in the penalty area at Millwall in 2016 and conceded the penalty which cost us the match, because he was at the heart of a plot to collect the winnings from a bet on the outcome of the Millwall game.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
It is now a week since I made the first of 2 requests for you to answer the specific point I put to you, and you have failed to respond. I can only assume that as on previous occasions when some of your more colourful statements have been contested, you have no answer to give, and in the spirit of Trumpian fabrications, you simply move on, leaving the accusation out there; in this case, an outrageous slur on one of the finest players to play for the Blades this century. No doubt in years to come, when JOC has left the club after serving it well for many years, you will regale us with the tale of when, like Jags, he deliberately put his hands up in the penalty area at Millwall in 2016 and conceded the penalty which cost us the match, because he was at the heart of a plot to collect the winnings from a bet on the outcome of the Millwall game.
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What slur? Nobody can sensibly dispute that the Everton player deliberately handled the ball. If he hadn’t it wouldn’t have been a penalty! Them’s the rules, or were then.

Apart from that, all I’ve ever said is that he couldn’t give a fuck about it because he knew he was going to Everton and did so without the courtesy of an explanation for his madness. If others ascribe anything more sinister than that, take it up with them. I never have. It’s all in your mind.
 

Pinchy said:
What slur? Nobody can sensibly dispute that the Everton player deliberately handled the ball. If he hadn’t it wouldn’t have been a penalty! Them’s the rules, or were then.

Apart from that, all I’ve ever said is that he couldn’t give a fuck about it because he knew he was going to Everton and did so without the courtesy of an explanation for his madness. If others ascribe anything more sinister than that, take it up with them. I never have. It’s all in your mind.
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Thanks for the courtesy of replying, and if I misunderstood your earlier post, I apologise. I know that you pride yourself on your use of words, and I inferred the following: you set out a sequence of (1) Jags giving away a 'ridiculous' handball, 'deliberately' as you clarify above, and (2) he had already planned to leave United and go to Everton (the metaphor of the satnav set and the engine running clearly involve thinking in advance). You then demand an explanation. Are you saying that 1 and 2 are merely a time sequence? To my mind you set it out like that because you believe/suspect/allege that there was cause and effect - the prior decision to leave United meant that he was happy for United to lose. My view is that the handball was similar to JOC's at Millwall (involuntary reaction to a push), that he played a strong role (as he had all season) in trying to win the match (he created our goal), and that there is no more to the matter. Please would you confirm that you are in no way suggesting that there is anything other than a sequence of time connecting (1) and (2), and no evidence of cause and effect? I will gladly offer an apology for misunderstanding you in return.
 
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