Errea....new kit supplier?

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Nah, I'd disagree with that.

The League 1 promotion shirt, Bounce Killer shirt and 1st PL shirt were all great. Probably in our top 10.

If the CH promotion shirt had carried on the stripes on the back, that would have been a beauty
All about opinions but the last bit made me laugh! That was the problem wasn't it! It didn't have stripes on the back, nor even the sleeves I may add. So going back to your comment on the League One promotion shirt, you think that they're in our top ten! Seriously!? In my lifetime I'd only say one of the Adidas home shirts can even be considered as a top ten and that was the Championship one in the first season - the bounce killer shirt as you rightly call it! I didn't like the black down the sides but other than that it was decent. It was Adidas's attempt at recreating the classic Alex Sabella shirt from the late 70's but I preferred the Macron effort as worn by Harry Maguire - second photo.

If you look through our kit history in my humble opinion the shirts from the 70's and 80's were all beauties. Granted a lot were the same shirt at times, but there was still about 10 different designs in that period. Then into the 90's you've got the 1992 - 94 home shirt classic with laced collar. The 1990 - 1992 home shirt with the black stripe in the middle of the red n white stripes was great also. Going on from that you've got the Avec Jan Aage Fjortoft home shirt. Into 2000 you've got a really nice effort from Patrick I think it was - bet you've not even thought of that one?! See below worn by Patrick Suffo. You see what's really nice about all these shirts is they manage to have stripes all over the shirt! It's remarkable it was so easy to do until this century when kit manufacturers no longer seem to manage this clearly very difficult task. I'd say that the Le Coq shirts were - in design - as good as most of the Adidas ones, bar the bounce killer shirt. See below for one of their best worn by Michael Tonge. I'd also say several of the Macron shirts were also better than the Adidas ones as modelled by Harry Maguire - twice! I say that the best of the Adidas shirts has a chance after all of the shirts I've mentioned.

I agree that the first year in the PL is a decent effort - if it'd had stripes on the sleeves and the majority of the back was solid as well. I thought Danny Hall summed it up very well in his article that came out today. Too many templates also was a major issue for Adidas.


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Reminds me of Avec. Naff as ****. They will probably bring out a diamond shirt next.

Shirt sales will probably do ok. I know the shop sells a hell of a lot of Adidas training gear, will the better deal make up that shortfall I'm not so sure
Although the diamond jersey was something of an acquired taste ( ie shite) their other effort was a thing of beauty:-

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Although that shirt was decent I agree, there were some genuine shockers and on the whole Avec is about as naff as it gets. But not quite Elev8 that's a whole new level of naff
 
Correct.

Loads of other clubs have done an anniversary shirt and their fans all loved it but ours started foaming at the mouth…… “it’s not a United shirt”.

I assume most people didn’t realise it was a one off based on our first ever kit. Even if you didn’t like/get the concept there is nothing wrong with it aesthetically.
I loved it. So much so that I found a brand new one with the god awful John Holland sponsor logo removed which is now safely tucked away in a drawer next to the premiership first season shirt, the premiership green shirt and the lace up 92-93 shirt
 
I don’t like Errea, I see a lot of there gear at work, however we will very likely get a custom kit and not a template so I’m curious to see what the consensus is amongst the “I hate adidas because they do templates” crew is..

I think on paper the kits could look quite good however I question the quality of errea products and even more so the desirability of the leisure/training gear. I just don’t see people going I’ll get an errea blades polo for my holidays in the same way they will have done for adidas products..

On a plus side we (classic football shirts) will probably have a shed load of the new gear come March for next to nothing
 
All about opinions but the last bit made me laugh! That was the problem wasn't it! It didn't have stripes on the back, nor even the sleeves I may add. So going back to your comment on the League One promotion shirt, you think that they're in our top ten! Seriously!? In my lifetime I'd only say one of the Adidas home shirts can even be considered as a top ten and that was the Championship one in the first season - the bounce killer shirt as you rightly call it! I didn't like the black down the sides but other than that it was decent. It was Adidas's attempt at recreating the classic Alex Sabella shirt from the late 70's but I preferred the Macron effort as worn by Harry Maguire - second photo.

If you look through our kit history in my humble opinion the shirts from the 70's and 80's were all beauties. Granted a lot were the same shirt at times, but there was still about 10 different designs in that period. Then into the 90's you've got the 1992 - 94 home shirt classic with laced collar. The 1990 - 1992 home shirt with the black stripe in the middle of the red n white stripes was great also. Going on from that you've got the Avec Jan Aage Fjortoft home shirt. Into 2000 you've got a really nice effort from Patrick I think it was - bet you've not even thought of that one?! See below worn by Patrick Suffo. You see what's really nice about all these shirts is they manage to have stripes all over the shirt! It's remarkable it was so easy to do until this century when kit manufacturers no longer seem to manage this clearly very difficult task. I'd say that the Le Coq shirts were - in design - as good as most of the Adidas ones, bar the bounce killer shirt. See below for one of their best worn by Michael Tonge. I'd also say several of the Macron shirts were also better than the Adidas ones as modelled by Harry Maguire - twice! I say that the best of the Adidas shirts has a chance after all of the shirts I've mentioned.

I agree that the first year in the PL is a decent effort - if it'd had stripes on the sleeves and the majority of the back was solid as well. I thought Danny Hall summed it up very well in his article that came out today. Too many templates also was a major issue for Adidas.


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See of those you've shown above, only 1 is in my top 10 - the Tonge shirt. As you say, all about opinions.

My top 10 (in my lifetime, so 1984 onwards)...

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So in there, i've got:
3x Adidas
3x Umbro
2x Le Coq
1x Avec
1x Macron

The best ever is this one, but, before my time
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See of those you've shown above, only 1 is in my top 10 - the Tonge shirt. As you say, all about opinions.

My top 10 (in my lifetime, so 1984 onwards)...

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So in there, i've got:
3x Adidas
3x Umbro
2x Le Coq
1x Avec
1x Macron

The best ever is this one, but, before my time
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This is better than at least four on your list (02/03 & 07/08 Le Coq, 11/12 Macron, & 19/20 adidas). It's top three for me.

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Opinions, eh? :)
 
See of those you've shown above, only 1 is in my top 10 - the Tonge shirt. As you say, all about opinions.

My top 10 (in my lifetime, so 1984 onwards)...

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So in there, i've got:
3x Adidas
3x Umbro
2x Le Coq
1x Avec
1x Macron

The best ever is this one, but, before my time
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The Macron one you put in wasn't up to much because of the red sleeves in my view. I really do not like solid sleeves as you probably guessed! The 70's kits are all classics, I'd take any of them over recent years. I don't expect that changing to Errea will mean we get red and white stripes all over the shirt but I'm more hopeful than with Adidas who didn't manage it in ten years.
 
Whether it has an Errea or Adidas logo, shrug.

Also RE training wear etc... Surely the Blades badge/branding is the bit that matters... Not if it also has an Adidas badge.

I stopped wasting money on branded clothing when I was 16 though, so I don't really understand people that still insist on splashing cash on branding. Does peer pressure exist for clothing beyond a certain age?
 

Not in the slightest bit awkward, when each of those Blades shirts came out one of the biggest complaints was the lack of central stripe because Le Coq wanted their logo to stand out on a white bit. You can be a twat and deliberately pick the examples that go against the grain but generally we're a bit more red than white (or in the case of that godawful Andy Gray kit massively too much red) and they're a bit more white than red.

Anyone thinking we won't get a template from Errea is kidding themselves, it should get more bespoke touches here and there than you get from Adidas, but somebody somewhere will have the same basic look in a different colour.
 
Anyone thinking we won't get a template from Errea is kidding themselves, it should get more bespoke touches here and there than you get from Adidas, but somebody somewhere will have the same basic look in a different colour.
The idea of having a kit that isn’t a template is possibly the biggest myth in football shirt geekery.

Every manufacturer has templates they work with. You know when you wear a polo by Ralph Lauren and the week after a Polo by Stone island… Guess what - it’s a template - to make Polo shirts requires a template.
 
Not in the slightest bit awkward, when each of those Blades shirts came out one of the biggest complaints was the lack of central stripe because Le Coq wanted their logo to stand out on a white bit. You can be a twat and deliberately pick the examples that go against the grain but generally we're a bit more red than white (or in the case of that godawful Andy Gray kit massively too much red) and they're a bit more white than red.

Anyone thinking we won't get a template from Errea is kidding themselves, it should get more bespoke touches here and there than you get from Adidas, but somebody somewhere will have the same basic look in a different colour.

"generally a bit more red than white"

Wouldn't having the middle stripe as white mean there is more red on the shirt though? Because the one white stripe is flanked by two red so there would always be one more red stripe than white stripe?
 
See of those you've shown above, only 1 is in my top 10 - the Tonge shirt. As you say, all about opinions.

My top 10 (in my lifetime, so 1984 onwards)...

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So in there, i've got:
3x Adidas
3x Umbro
2x Le Coq
1x Avec
1x Macron

The best ever is this one, but, before my time
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Missing out the 1990 candy stripe is a crime but other than that good work
 
See of those you've shown above, only 1 is in my top 10 - the Tonge shirt. As you say, all about opinions.

My top 10 (in my lifetime, so 1984 onwards)...

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So in there, i've got:
3x Adidas
3x Umbro
2x Le Coq
1x Avec
1x Macron

The best ever is this one, but, before my time
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Take the badge and 3 stripes off, and most of the Adidas designs are pretty poor.

And we agree on the best kit ever, and I'm old enough to have actually seen it. So stop pissing about with black in the shirt designs 😂
 
You can be a twat and deliberately pick the examples that go against the grain but generally we're a bit more red than white

It's more to do with the shorts than anything else that sets us apart. We are predominantly black, they're predominantly white. We even had the same shirt in 2007-08:

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It's definitely the black that makes us unique to Stoke. Stoke often use blue as their trim colour.

Since the 1981-82 season, here's the numbers (different kits only):

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But then Black isn't unique to United - Southampton often have black pinstripes too

The Macron one you put in wasn't up to much because of the red sleeves in my view. I really do not like solid sleeves as you probably guessed! The 70's kits are all classics, I'd take any of them over recent years. I don't expect that changing to Errea will mean we get red and white stripes all over the shirt but I'm more hopeful than with Adidas who didn't manage it in ten years.

See i liked it because it was just so simple. No fancy collars or trying to be different. Even better with no sponsor:
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See of those you've shown above, only 1 is in my top 10 - the Tonge shirt. As you say, all about opinions.

My top 10 (in my lifetime, so 1984 onwards)...

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So in there, i've got:
3x Adidas
3x Umbro
2x Le Coq
1x Avec
1x Macron

The best ever is this one, but, before my time
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Didn't you like the red white and black pinstripws Deano wore?
 
This just shows we are run as a business we now maximise profits to provide a lower standard shirt.
 
This just shows we are run as a business we now maximise profits to provide a lower standard shirt.
We have been run as a business since 1889. Sometimes you have to question those running it and their methods, but it’s always been a business.

From Wikipedia -

Sheffield United officially formed on 22 March 1889 at the Adelphi Hotel, Sheffield (now the site of the Crucible Theatre) by the President of the Cricket Club, Sir Charles Clegg. The Wednesday had moved from Bramall Lane to their own ground at Olive Grove after a dispute over gate receipts and the tenants of Bramall Lane needed to create a new team to generate income.
 
Worth pointing out that In the UK laced up shirts are banned but this is nice work from Errea.

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Couldn't they produce a lace up shirt anyway but players remove the laces? Why can't we supporters have laces? Or are they worried another inept performance would lead to the laces being used incorrectly?
 

Couldn't they produce a lace up shirt anyway but players remove the laces? Why can't we supporters have laces? Or are they worried another inept performance would lead to the laces being used incorrectly?

We designed and produced the JOma Sheffield FC shirt a few years back and the league wouldn't allow it due to safety, problem with removing them is then they look a mess and also makes the collars quite open and flappy and equally as dangerous I think.

Cant recall who it was but someone did have a kit recently that looked like laces but it was more elastic strips which were nothing more than aesthetics.
 

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