Diego de Girolamo
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Houston_Blade
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He's invested wisely? GLTTL. It does seem like he's moving towards semi pro. Reminds me of the trajectory of Lee Askham.
His dad has got enough to share around and I’m told he’s bought 4 or 5 properties himself over the last few years. His cousin owns a construction company as well so he could always become a brickie for him if it all goes tits up, don’t think the national apprenticeship wages would stretch to a Range Rover though.
He’ll earn a few hundred quid a week in non-league as well if that’s where he ends up.
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Fair do's. Also he's still relatively young, so if he's still got the hunger for the game, he has got time on his side, using Duffy & Holmes as examples close to home.
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Serious question: can it genuinely be called a fall from grace, if he was never good enough and never actually made it in the first place?
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He showed a level of promise that suggested he would go on to have a career at a high level. I suspect at the time if someone would have said that 5 years later he wouldn't be able to get a game for Macclesfield in the National League, it would've raised eyebrows. So there has been a certain 'fall from grace', although i'm uneasy with the phrase. As an 18yr old, he played, scored & starred in the U18 Italy team. I believe that DdG, Cristante and Petagna, were the three stand out players in the team, the other two are now worth £20m. However, as BSP says, football is littered with players who sparkled young and for whatever reason faded.
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Certainly does to me but everybody has their own ideas, quite why this player has caught the imagination like no other, Mellis probably comes a distant second Slew third, I have no idea.
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Yeah but he wears his cap backwards.
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Jacob Mellis, the one who went to Chelsea got sacked for setting off fireworks at training ground ended up in lower end of football league team, can’t remember who off top of my head. Did he actually play for first team or was he just a ‘prospect’ that we never saw?
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Never played for our 1st team
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He went to Chelsea as a 16 year old. Under the old system we got £1m for him which isn't bad considering we picked him up from one of the Nottingham sides (I think). He's now at Mansfield.
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Mellis was sent off for Bury against us in Nov 2016
http://ball-sup.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/coutts-octopus.html
And scored against us for Bury in Jan 17
http://ball-sup.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/midfield-rested.html
http://ball-sup.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/coutts-octopus.html
And scored against us for Bury in Jan 17
http://ball-sup.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/midfield-rested.html
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A little harsh on a well meaning body of men
IIRC we got £400k for him. His dad wanted a salary for himself for his lad to stay.
He's played for the Dingles against us but been anonymous. Like many young starlets he had the skills and falir but not the work ethic or attitude.
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I know that the general trend on here is to kick the lad, but that's quite sad. GLTTL.
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Very sad decline....Wtf went wrong?
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I bet he can’t believe what’s happened to his career. Hope he manages to turn it around.
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Shouldnt he be playing with Ronaldo at Juve?
Houston_Blade
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I played 30 odd games for Buxton, why aren’t Juve sniffing after me?!
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I recall in the bad old years when we played Donnie away ( the Murphy goal and McGuire’s in the crowd game). Players warmed up along the side of the pitch, shooting into some small goal. He must have been on the bench as he was there. Great first touch and always a perfect placed shot. I had high hopes.
Shame how things turn out, when you think he probably played or circulated with Brooksy at that time....
Attitude as match as ability. And greed ain’t a good trait in anyone,, don’t you think Donald?
Shame how things turn out, when you think he probably played or circulated with Brooksy at that time....
Attitude as match as ability. And greed ain’t a good trait in anyone,, don’t you think Donald?
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They wouldn't have needed Ronaldo. Oh well Juventus's loss is Buxton's gain I suppose.
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Such are the margins. NIck Hornby describes it brilliantly with Gus Caeser at Arsenal. It's not a perfect analogy with Diego but not a dissimilar tale in some respects. Sometimes when we're slagging players off (and I've ribbed Diego on here more than once) maybe we need to realise we're criticising somebody how is far, far, far better at the sport then we ever will be....
“Did Gus commit himself to the life he had picked? Of course he did. You don’t get anywhere near the first team of a major First Division football club without commitment. And did he know he was good? He must have done, and justifiably so. Think about it. At school he must have been much, much better than his peers, so he gets picked for the school team, and then some representative side, South London Boys or what have you; and he’s still better than anyone else in the team, by miles, so the scouts come to watch, and he’s offered an apprenticeship not with Fulham or Brentford or even West Ham but with the mighty Arsenal. And it’s still not over, even then, because if you look at any First Division youth team of five years ago you won’t recognize most of the names, because most of them have disappeared. (Here’s the Arsenal youth team of April 1987, from a randomly plucked programme: Miller, Hannigan, McGregor, Hillier, Scully, Carstairs, Connelly, Rivero, Cagigao, S. Ball, Esqulant. Of those, only Hillier has come through, although Miller is still with us as a highly rated reserve goalkeeper; Scully is still playing professional football somewhere, though not for Arsenal or any other First Division team. The rest have gone, and gone from a club famous for giving its own players a fair crack.)
“But Gus survives, and goes on to play for the reserves. And suddenly, it’s all on for him: Don Howe is in trouble, and flooding the first team with young players: Niall Quinn, Hayes, Rocastle, Adams, Martin Keown. And when Viv Anderson is suspended over Christmas 1985 Gus makes his debut as part of a back four that’s kept a clean sheet away at Manchester United.
“Howe gets the sack, and George Graham keeps him on, and he’s used as a sub in quite a few games over George’s first season, so things are still going well for him– not as well as they are for Rocky and Hayes and Adams and Quinn, but then these players are having an exceptional first full season, and when the squad for the England Under-21s is announced it’s full of Arsenal players, and Gus Caesar is one of them. The England selectors, like the Arsenal fans, are beginning to trust Arsenal’s youth policy implicitly, and Gus gets a call-up even though he isn’t in the first team regularly. But never mind why, he’s in, he’s recognised as one of the best twenty or so young players in the whole country.
“Now at this point Gus could be forgiven for relaxing his guard a little. He’s young, he’s got talent, he’s committed to the life he’s picked, and at least some of the self-doubt that plagues everyone with long-shot dreams must have vanished by now. At this stage you have to rely on the judgment of others (I was relying on the judgments of friends and agents and anyone I could find who would read my stuff and tell me it was OK); and when those others include two Arsenal managers and an England coach then you probably reckon that there isn’t much to worry about.
“But as it turns out, they are all wrong. So far he has leaped over every hurdle in his path comfortably, but even at this late stage it is possible to be tripped up. Probably the first time we notice that things aren’t right is in January 1987, in that first-leg semi-final against Tottenham: Caesar is painfully, obviously, out of his depth against those Spurs forwards. In truth he looks like a rabbit caught in headlights, frozen to the spot until Waddle or Allen or somebody runs him over, and then he starts to thrash about, horribly and pitifully, and finally George and Theo Foley put him out of his misery by substituting him. He doesn’t get another chance for a while. The next time I remember him turning out is against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in a 1-1 draw, a week or two before the Luton final, but again there is a moment in the first half where Dixon runs at him, turns him one way, then the other, then back again, like your dad used to do to you when you were a really little kid in the back garden, and eventually strolls past him and puts the ball just the wrong side of the post. We knew that there was going to be trouble at Wembley, when O’Leary was out injured and Gus was the only candidate to replace him. Caesar leaves it late, but when the ball is knocked into the box seven minutes from time, he mis-kicks so violently that he falls over; at this point he looks like somebody off the street who has won a competition to appear as a centre-half in a Wembley final, and not like a professional footballer at all, and in the ensuing chaos Danny Wilson stoops to head the ball over the line for Luton’s equalising goal.
“That’s it. End of story. He’s at the club for another three or four years, but he’s very much the last resort centre-back, and he must have known, when George bought Bould and then Linighan and then Pates, with Adams and O’Leary already at the club, that he didn’t have much of a future– he was the sixth in line for two positions. He was given a free transfer at the end of the 90/91 season, to Cambridge United; but within another couple of months they let him go too, to Bristol City, and a couple of months after that Bristol City let him go to Airdrie. To get where he did, Gus Caesar clearly had more talent than nearly everyone of his generation (the rest of us can only dream about having his kind of skill) and it still wasn’t quite enough.”
“Did Gus commit himself to the life he had picked? Of course he did. You don’t get anywhere near the first team of a major First Division football club without commitment. And did he know he was good? He must have done, and justifiably so. Think about it. At school he must have been much, much better than his peers, so he gets picked for the school team, and then some representative side, South London Boys or what have you; and he’s still better than anyone else in the team, by miles, so the scouts come to watch, and he’s offered an apprenticeship not with Fulham or Brentford or even West Ham but with the mighty Arsenal. And it’s still not over, even then, because if you look at any First Division youth team of five years ago you won’t recognize most of the names, because most of them have disappeared. (Here’s the Arsenal youth team of April 1987, from a randomly plucked programme: Miller, Hannigan, McGregor, Hillier, Scully, Carstairs, Connelly, Rivero, Cagigao, S. Ball, Esqulant. Of those, only Hillier has come through, although Miller is still with us as a highly rated reserve goalkeeper; Scully is still playing professional football somewhere, though not for Arsenal or any other First Division team. The rest have gone, and gone from a club famous for giving its own players a fair crack.)
“But Gus survives, and goes on to play for the reserves. And suddenly, it’s all on for him: Don Howe is in trouble, and flooding the first team with young players: Niall Quinn, Hayes, Rocastle, Adams, Martin Keown. And when Viv Anderson is suspended over Christmas 1985 Gus makes his debut as part of a back four that’s kept a clean sheet away at Manchester United.
“Howe gets the sack, and George Graham keeps him on, and he’s used as a sub in quite a few games over George’s first season, so things are still going well for him– not as well as they are for Rocky and Hayes and Adams and Quinn, but then these players are having an exceptional first full season, and when the squad for the England Under-21s is announced it’s full of Arsenal players, and Gus Caesar is one of them. The England selectors, like the Arsenal fans, are beginning to trust Arsenal’s youth policy implicitly, and Gus gets a call-up even though he isn’t in the first team regularly. But never mind why, he’s in, he’s recognised as one of the best twenty or so young players in the whole country.
“Now at this point Gus could be forgiven for relaxing his guard a little. He’s young, he’s got talent, he’s committed to the life he’s picked, and at least some of the self-doubt that plagues everyone with long-shot dreams must have vanished by now. At this stage you have to rely on the judgment of others (I was relying on the judgments of friends and agents and anyone I could find who would read my stuff and tell me it was OK); and when those others include two Arsenal managers and an England coach then you probably reckon that there isn’t much to worry about.
“But as it turns out, they are all wrong. So far he has leaped over every hurdle in his path comfortably, but even at this late stage it is possible to be tripped up. Probably the first time we notice that things aren’t right is in January 1987, in that first-leg semi-final against Tottenham: Caesar is painfully, obviously, out of his depth against those Spurs forwards. In truth he looks like a rabbit caught in headlights, frozen to the spot until Waddle or Allen or somebody runs him over, and then he starts to thrash about, horribly and pitifully, and finally George and Theo Foley put him out of his misery by substituting him. He doesn’t get another chance for a while. The next time I remember him turning out is against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge in a 1-1 draw, a week or two before the Luton final, but again there is a moment in the first half where Dixon runs at him, turns him one way, then the other, then back again, like your dad used to do to you when you were a really little kid in the back garden, and eventually strolls past him and puts the ball just the wrong side of the post. We knew that there was going to be trouble at Wembley, when O’Leary was out injured and Gus was the only candidate to replace him. Caesar leaves it late, but when the ball is knocked into the box seven minutes from time, he mis-kicks so violently that he falls over; at this point he looks like somebody off the street who has won a competition to appear as a centre-half in a Wembley final, and not like a professional footballer at all, and in the ensuing chaos Danny Wilson stoops to head the ball over the line for Luton’s equalising goal.
“That’s it. End of story. He’s at the club for another three or four years, but he’s very much the last resort centre-back, and he must have known, when George bought Bould and then Linighan and then Pates, with Adams and O’Leary already at the club, that he didn’t have much of a future– he was the sixth in line for two positions. He was given a free transfer at the end of the 90/91 season, to Cambridge United; but within another couple of months they let him go too, to Bristol City, and a couple of months after that Bristol City let him go to Airdrie. To get where he did, Gus Caesar clearly had more talent than nearly everyone of his generation (the rest of us can only dream about having his kind of skill) and it still wasn’t quite enough.”
I remember seeing him in youth games and he was head and shoulders better than anyone on the pitch, no exaggeration. I am at a loss to explain how things turned out so badly for him. There are players with a lot less talent in League 2 and probably League 1.
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Was it because you signed for Earl Sterndale Rovers?
Or maybe you were a disruptive influence in the dressing room and used to throw Buxton Spa water all over the place?
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Silly boys. The poet Lennon says (nearly)
was he told when he was young
That pain would lead to pleasure
Did he understand it when they said
That a man must break his back
To earn his day of leisure
was he told when he was young
That pain would lead to pleasure
Did he understand it when they said
That a man must break his back
To earn his day of leisure
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Acl injuries have ended many careers at the top level.
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So have over inflated egos.
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Do you know the lad?
Do you really think that a young lad who has played for Cheltenham, Chesterfield, Macclesfield and now Buxton has an overinflated ego?
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