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‘I want to be Manchester United No 1’ - Dean Henderson inspired by Chris Wilder’s ‘real men’ mantra

All the talk of whether Dean Henderson should be No 1 for Manchester United and England is a live, legitimate debate, a discourse that the confident 23-year-old is understandably keen on. “One hundred per cent,” he says. “I’m going to keep the pressure on.” Henderson is good, potentially exceptionally good, and anybody doubting the substance of his claims need consider only the memorable sequence of reaction saves he made against Norwich City in March, while on loan from Manchester United at Sheffield United.

Even now, six months on, viewing back the whirl of limbs in the six-yard box, it is hard to believe that Henderson keeps the ball from crossing the line. First, he pushes away Ben Godfrey’s powerful header, then he flings out a hand to stop Mario Vrancic’s effort from a yard out and finally blocks Josip Drmic’s follow-up.

“It’s instinct,” he explains. It’s muscle memory, too. “It’s many years of playing and training, picking up little skills and cues as to what’s going to happen next. Sometimes I think: ‘How the hell did I do that?’ It’s amazing, really. That’s what we train to do for those unbelievable moments and it paid off.’’

Everybody considers Henderson to be a newcomer but he was on the bench for Manchester United’s FA Cup fifth-round match against Shrewsbury Town in 2016. At 18. But he didn’t want to look and learn. He wanted to play and learn, to hone that “instinct”. His apprenticeship took in Stockport County, Grimsby Town and Shrewsbury Town, then two lauded seasons with Chris Wilder’s Sheffield United. Those natural reflexes were sharpened during 127 league appearances across all four tiers of the professional pyramid.

It was after that triple save that Wilder said of Henderson: “His concentration levels are fantastic. He’s got a huge desire to take his game to the very top. He’s a confident boy, he’s not shy, but he backs it up.”

As usual, Wilder was right. Henderson is not short of confidence. “No, not at all!” he says, speaking via Zoom from St George’s Park, where England continued training yesterday in advance of Saturday’s Nations League qualifying match in Iceland.

“For any young goalkeeper it’s 80 per cent mental. I know it sounds weird but going out and having to prove yourself, go the long way round and go up through the leagues, you’ve got to have a bit of an edge. I believe I’ve got that edge. I’m happy with who I am.”

He needed that edge, having been thrown in at the deep end in the National League North for Stockport against Nuneaton Town (now Borough) in January 2016. Even the Stockport match report referred to a “rush of blood” from their debut-making loan signing, who was “massively out of position” as Rob Duffy scored for Nuneaton. “Stockport was the hardest loan spell of my life,” Henderson says.

“I remember there was a big guy, first minute of my debut for Stockport, who said: ‘Put it on the keeper, he’s pooing himself,’ and I thought: ‘Oh God’.” Within 20 minutes, a free kick came in. “I’ve gone for the cross, I’ve completely missed it [Duffy headed the ball] and it went in the goal. I wanted to be swallowed up.” Mistakes neither distract nor drain Henderson. “I dusted myself down and came back. I just kept learning.

“I went out from Man United five years ago [to] Stockport, Grimsby, Shrewsbury and then Sheffield, out on my own, picking up experiences that happen in games because they’re situations you don’t really get in training. I’m under no illusions that I’m going to improve by just sitting on the bench. I need that game time.”

His learning particularly accelerated with sustained game time under the demanding, inspiring Wilder. “I had a fantastic two years with Chris,” Henderson says. “He was a great manager, rough and ready, just what I needed. He put me in line when I needed to be put into line but really strongly believed in me, which is something I loved about him. He made me feel 10ft tall. He was great for me. I can’t thank Chris enough for what he’s done for me.”

When Henderson erred badly against Liverpool at Bramall Lane a year ago, letting Georginio Wijnaldum’s late shot through his legs, Wilder called him out. He told Henderson that if he wanted to be No 1 at Manchester United and England, he had to cut out such mistakes. Wilder then said the same in public.

“With the Liverpool one, I got ripped to shreds [on social media] and people kept talking about it, even towards the end of the season,” Henderson says. “I was thinking: ‘Surely that’s been put to bed?’ ” He’d already moved on, immediately keeping clean sheets against Watford and Arsenal, responding positively to his manager’s home truths.

Wilder’s dressing room sounds like a crucible where mettle is forged. “One hundred per cent,” Henderson says. “You have to stand up for yourself. I’m ready for any challenge thrown my way now. There were many times in the changing room after games it got heated between the boys but it’s just because we have a passionate group of lads and everyone wanted to win.”

They had a mantra: “Real men turn up to big events,” Henderson explains. “Chris Basham! Away at Elland Road [in March 2019], odds against us, no one believed we could go there and win but we turned up and won [through Basham’s goal]. We beat them to promotion as well so that made it even better.

“A lot of the boys say that: ‘Real men turn up to big events’. We’d say it when we went out just before games. We all turned up many times as well.” The battle cry sums Henderson up, too. “I’d like to think so. That’s something I model myself on. Don’t go hiding. Always there. Never shy away from criticism. Try my best.”

Now he is back from his loan odyssey, committing to the club until 2025, with an option for another year. “I feel like a new signing at Man United. I haven’t been in the building for five years.” But it’s been planned. On arrival at Grimsby at 19, he told people that he would be pushing for a United starting spot within four years. “I said, ‘At 23, I’ll go back and that’ll be my time’. I knew what I needed to do. I knew what I needed to tick off before I got there.”

Henderson is convinced that he has what it takes to become No 1 at Old Trafford, ousting David De Gea. He’s respectful but ambitious. “Listen, David has been a great goalkeeper for years. He’s been a phenomenal servant for the club. That’s something I aspire to be — to have a career like him at the club, so I’ll be working my socks off to get in that starting line-up because it’s something I’ve always wanted. I’m so close now. I’m not going to give up. I’m going to put the pressure on.

“I respect David. I know what challenges are going to be. I’m well up for it. You can get many things from training and learn off someone like David and the other goalkeepers and coaches. But I don’t think there’s any substitute for game time. Coming off a good season with momentum, it wouldn’t be clever for me to sit around and not play.”

He agrees that, to be No 1 with England, he cannot be No 2 at United: “Yes, I accept that.” As with De Gea, Henderson has huge respect for Jordan Pickford and Nick Pope, his England team-mates. “They’re both great lads. We get on well and push each other every day. I’m working hard to be Gareth [Southgate’s] No 1 but I know I’ve got to get past two very good goalkeepers. I’m still fighting for my first cap.”

The debate about his readiness intensifies. “I want to play for England and I want to play for Manchester United,” Henderson says. “So I’m just going to keep overcoming my little challenges, [reaching] my little goals and I’m sure one day I’ll get to where I want to be.”

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<< He agrees that, to be No 1 with England, he cannot be No 2 at United: “Yes, I accept that.” >>

Unfortunately, he’s almost certainly not going to be number No 1 at Manchester United.
So he’s probably going to miss out on a golden opportunity of playing for England in a rare major tournament on home soil.
I predict that he will be agitating for a loan move again by January.
By which time Pope will have established himself as first choice and Southgate won’t change direction twice.
If I were Henderson, I would push for the loan move now. Probably abroad to a Champions League team.
 
You live and die by the decisions you make in life. I can't help but think that going back to Man Utd at this very time is going to kill any momentum and form he had.

His career would be much better served by getting a transfer - to us would have been perfect - but somewhere he'll continue to play every week.

As it stands he's going to be riding the pine all season and Man Utd are simply going to use him as a tool to get the best out of De Gea.

He's dropped a massive bollock staying.
 
You live and die by the decisions you make in life. I can't help but think that going back to Man Utd at this very time is going to kill any momentum and form he had.

His career would be much better served by getting a transfer - to us would have been perfect - but somewhere he'll continue to play every week.

As it stands he's going to be riding the pine all season and Man Utd are simply going to use him as a tool to get the best out of De Gea.

He's dropped a massive bollock staying.
He’s backed himself but I agree it’s risky. Although all he needs is an injury or suspension to De Gea and suddenly...
But a real gamble, even more so given no Europa league to play in this year for him.
I can only think he’s looking long term and this rhetoric is a bit of a smokescreen. As a keeper his career is still in the embryonic stages so sit and wait for de gea to finish and then he’s there for the long haul. Life isn’t always straightforward though eh?
 
He’s backed himself but I agree it’s risky. Although all he needs is an injury or suspension to De Gea and suddenly...
But a real gamble, even more so given no Europa league to play in this year for him.
I can only think he’s looking long term and this rhetoric is a bit of a smokescreen. As a keeper his career is still in the embryonic stages so sit and wait for de gea to finish and then he’s there for the long haul. Life isn’t always straightforward though eh?

It's a gamble I'm not sure he has to take. Man Utd aren't going to bench £300k+ a week of GK unless they really have to. GK's need to play every week to develop and if he rides the pine for a year, he isn't going to get any better.

Plus if he hardly plays this year, it's not going to be different next Summer if De Gea has a solid season.

My prediction is he's agitating for a transfer away next Summer and ends up somewhere like Palace /West Ham and spends the next 5 years playing catch up...
 
True. He might be his own worst enemy in this instance; his self confidence and self belief bordering on arrogance and naivety.
Ultimately he’s a commodity and if he can be cashed in for massive profit he will be. What a waste if he were to end up at a palace or West Ham though.
Goalkeepers can sink from memory very quickly given their unique specialism just look at joe hart and how his career imploded so quickly.
 
I don't think he's after a transfer at all, I think he's good enough and he'll get there..He has always stated he wants be be #1 at Man Utd. I'll bet De Gea is looking nervously over his shoulder that's for sure. Henderson will make it, I have no doubt. Staying as #1 is his challenge then.
 
If De gea plays like last season he gets a chance soon.

Good luck to him. England needs an elite goalkeeper.
 
I don't think he's after a transfer at all, I think he's good enough and he'll get there..He has always stated he wants be be #1 at Man Utd. I'll bet De Gea is looking nervously over his shoulder that's for sure. Henderson will make it, I have no doubt. Staying as #1 is his challenge then.
reckon we will see one of the first GK rotations this season, De Gea will begin the season but wont finish it, a DDG loan beckons at the end of 20/21

on another note... bet man u are gutted china have pay caps these days, its exactly where DDG would have ended up
 

I don't think he'll start the season as Number 1. But if DDG makes a couple of high profile errors then I think they'll give him a chance. It's then up to Dean what happens next. He's got the ability and the attitude.
I agree he probably should have given it another year though. Guaranteed first team football, proven himself at the Euros with England, then gone back as England's number 1, proven on the big stage.
 
You live and die by the decisions you make in life. I can't help but think that going back to Man Utd at this very time is going to kill any momentum and form he had.

His career would be much better served by getting a transfer - to us would have been perfect - but somewhere he'll continue to play every week.

As it stands he's going to be riding the pine all season and Man Utd are simply going to use him as a tool to get the best out of De Gea.

He's dropped a massive bollock staying.

Was it his choice not to come back though? Or was it our choice to say no as they wanted us to pay 100% of his new deal?

He needs 1st team football somewhere though as he's not going to progress for England by playing reserve footy for Man Utd, thats for sure
 
Was it his choice not to come back though? Or was it our choice to say no as they wanted us to pay 100% of his new deal?

He needs 1st team football somewhere though as he's not going to progress for England by playing reserve footy for Man Utd, thats for sure

100% Wilder told them where to shove it! Now we're 'established' in the PL we don't need handouts and I'm sure Wilder wanted our own GK, unless the loan deal was stacked in our favour (which clearly it wasn't).

Henderson is a confident lad and good enough to be Man U's number 1, but DDG is a fine GK and on £350k a week, so I just can't see him getting that slot in the next 12/24 months...

He'd have been better served joining a cash rich, middle PL team like Palace, Brighton, Wolves and playing every week...
 
It's a great interview, and I can only admire his confidence and determination to do well.

It is a huge statement to say that he wants to be at Man United and fight for the No1 position and it says all about his determination and passion. It would have been the easier option to take on another loan move and be the undisputed No1 at another club, but the fact he wants to stay there says it all about the character of the lad, and i wouldn't back against him not doing what he is setting out to do.

I think he is going to become one of the worlds best, and we can regard ourselves as very fortunate for having him whilst we did.
 
He is determined I can't see him staying at number 2 he will move
 
I highly doubt he thinks that when he looks at his bank account.

I dont think that is on his mind if the article rings true. He wants to be No.1 Man U and England. He wants game time. Going to Man U he wont get any of the three.

He should have swallowed his pride, took a pay cut in order to achieve his goal long term. He would have had a much better chance of Man No.1 coming to us getting England No.1 whilst playing for us then he would have Man U begging him to come back. His arrogance and confidence whilst a credit could also be his downfall.

He's got a better chance of taking over from Pickford in a SUFC v Everton game in goal than Man U v Everton on the bench!

He's took the wrong route he went back too soon and should have played the long game aiming to get Man U after him at about 27yrs old. Problem is now Man U arent desperate for him, he needs to make them that way.
 
Makes me a bit sad for football to be honest. When he came to us he said playing for Man U was his ambition, which is a rare bit of honesty for a loan player, but had the intelligence to know he needed to do his job here to have any chance of that. His attitude's been spot on, he's a quality player, and he's an entertainer too. Everything you want from a player whether it's manager or fan. But the sad part is that in spite of him clearly wanting to play football he's been offered thirty something million pounds for what might be sitting on the bench. It's bad for the game. You want good prospects to be out there, whether it's for us or not, playing football and entertaining fans, not be getting more money for being a sub than they can get for being first choice.

I know it's different for keepers. You can make a career in goal with a handful of appearances. You don't get rotated, you don't get picked ahead because the formation's changed for a few games or to mix up tactics. Still though, it's indicative of how much talent is out there on the training grounds that we don't get to see.

Obviously I care about United first but I also care about the game as a whole. And I want the game to be a high standard. When players of Hendo's calibre are stuck on the bench football suffers.
 
Man Utd. attract a huge amount of publicity.
De Gea makes a number of mistakes last season.
Henderson keeps a number of clean sheets in a newly promoted, 'taking everyone by surprise' side.

Result - he gets a lot of media attention.

If de Gea starts off well and Henderson's on the bench he'll disappear off the radar.
 
You live and die by the decisions you make in life. I can't help but think that going back to Man Utd at this very time is going to kill any momentum and form he had.

His career would be much better served by getting a transfer - to us would have been perfect - but somewhere he'll continue to play every week.

As it stands he's going to be riding the pine all season and Man Utd are simply going to use him as a tool to get the best out of De Gea.

He's dropped a massive bollock staying.

We don't know what he's been told by their manager. I suspect they are fighting it out and if he's still on the bench by Oct 1 I wouldn't be surprised if a last minute loan move materialised for him.
 
Of all the players I've seen over the years, he's one of the select few who you can confidently say - it's not about the money!

He's very fortunate then because somebody in his camp knows & cares about the pounds & pence on his behalf. I think he's enjoyed a pay rise every year of his 5 season career so far, from a starting point of £5k a week to his present £120k a week.
 
I actually disagree with most on this thread. Here’s an alternative way of looking at it:

He already had a great season in the Premier League last season. He could slightly better it with us or another similar club but I don’t think that will make Man Utd any more likely to make him their number one. They will still say “yeah, but can he do it at a big club when the pressure is on?”.

Him staying at Man U this season and getting into the first team if/when De Gea drops a couple of bollocks is probably his best chance. If it doesn’t happen he will still be well placed to get a loan or transfer to another Premier League club. Not much would be lost.

As for England, Southgate has clearly demonstrated that he doesn’t pick based on form. He would never make Henderson number one while ever he’s playing for us or a club of similar stature. If he becomes Man U’s regular keeper then he will start for England. If he doesn’t then he won’t. It shouldn’t be this way but you have to accept that it’s most likely true.
 

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