CONFIRMED David Brooks to Bournemouth

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Brooks is a true match winner player who brings genuine class a few months ago Wilder was digging saying I want this and that to happen then he let’s Brooke’s go and says nothing all bollocks
 
I think Chris Wilder seems to be fairly pragmatic about all this, and I think the fans need to be as well.

Football is a business now, and all the power lies with the player and the agents now rather than the Football clubs, and if someone comes knocking with a huge contact for one of our players and one we can’t match, then I’m afraid we don’t even stand a prayer of keeping a player in those circumstances, with the huge disparity in money floating around the top flight compared to what is floating around the Championship, there isn’t much we can do apart from try and get the best possible deal that we can. Chris Wilder will know all this as well. As a club all we can do is operate the best we can against this back drop.

I personally don’t think this is a great move for David Brooks, he has got the potential but I think he is far from the finished article, and I didn’t think he quite looked the same player after his illness, and I think he is destined to be one of those players who will go through his career, being world class 1 week in 5. I fear for the player that it might be a step too far, too soon.

I’ve been watching United years and seen a lot of good young players come through and solicit moves early on in their career, and in many cases the moves haven’t been beneficial to the player, I’ve also seen situations where players have come trough and looked exciting and to have a big future only for their career to stall. I can remember Michael Tonge looking like a real star in the making and all the big clubs being interested but only ever ending up a solid Championship player, same with Stephen Quinn and we could have cashed in on them both. Same with Diego De Girolamo who looked to have the world at his feet, and if the Italian club would have come in with a big offer for him he would have been off like a shot, instead they didn’t, and his ended up disappearing off the face of the earth. Anyone also want to tell me what Jordan Slew is up to nowadays? We also sold on Walker and Harry Maguire, but at the time we couldn’t realistically hold on to either of them as we couldn’t offer them the money they wanted. I don’t like selling the Good young players but if they don’t want to be here then nowadays realistically we can’t keep them.

I think £12m represents a hell of a gamble for Bournemouth. They is no saying on how David Brooks career is going to pan out. He could be a one hit wonder or he could go on and be world class. Nobody knows but if we didn’t sell him and his career stalled here, then we could well have lost out on £12m. That amount of money, although is pocket money to an established premiership club like Bournemouth, it is still a hell of a lot of money for a club in the Championship like Sheffield United (our turnover a couple of years ago I believe was around the £8m Mark inclusive of player sales as well).

With the transfer fee, and people saying that he is worth more. He is only worth what people will pay for him. If people think we should hold out for more, how do they know that other clubs will pay more. A player is ultimately only worth what someone will pay for him, it is simple economics. If people think he is worth £15m or £20m, yet the biggest offer we get is £12m, then that is what his true value is.

Once he has gone, he needs to be forgotten about and we need to move on from David Brooks. As supporters we was here before David Brooks and will still be here after David Brooks is long forgotten about. What we all need to do is be a bit more pragmatic about things, understand what the lie of the land is regarding player power and agents, and place a little bit of trust in the man, and the management team that has dragged us kicking and screaming out of the pub league back in to Championship by building a team with some excellent and very shrewd signings. If we use the money to bring in 3 or 4 players to address the weaknesses that became more and more apparent as last season went on, then it is all well and good with me.
 
Lane Ender said:
Brooks is a true match winner player who brings genuine class a few months ago Wilder was digging saying I want this and that to happen then he let’s Brooke’s go and says nothing all bollocks
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So much wrong with one sentence.

How many games has Brooks won us? 1?
The lad has potential to be 'class' but so far has been very hit and miss. And we've seen more miss from him.
Brooks hasn't officially signed for Bournemouth and your slating Wilder for not saying anything?!
 
LoughboroBlade said:
The other thing to add is that I don’t think even now we know how to necessarily utilise him best in the system we play. The games he played the Duffy role behind two strikers, he played like an individual rather than a team player. We don’t look likely to move back to wingers anytime soon, and from what I’ve seen he’s not suited to play a deeper midfield role. His best games have been playing off a striker (more forward than attacking mid tbh) and in that he’s not had the sort of output that Clarke & Sharp have had. I like Brooks, and think he could probably develop into the Duffy role in time, but if I’m honest and pick our best current XI as it stands I don’t think he’s in it. His development also isn’t guaranteed to happen quickly.

Ultimately, Wilder made it clear when Adams left that if a player wants to go, he’ll let them. Contracts are now simply a means of ensuring we get a fair price, it’s not a guarantee that a player is with us for the full contract – it hasn’t been that for some time. If we’re “a selling club” it’ll be with Wilder’s blessing.
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Consummate common sense and a remedy for jerking knees everywhere.

There’s nothing for you here.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
The other thing to add is that I don’t think even now we know how to necessarily utilise him best in the system we play. The games he played the Duffy role behind two strikers, he played like an individual rather than a team player. We don’t look likely to move back to wingers anytime soon, and from what I’ve seen he’s not suited to play a deeper midfield role. His best games have been playing off a striker (more forward than attacking mid tbh) and in that he’s not had the sort of output that Clarke & Sharp have had. I like Brooks, and think he could probably develop into the Duffy role in time, but if I’m honest and pick our best current XI as it stands I don’t think he’s in it. His development also isn’t guaranteed to happen quickly.

Ultimately, Wilder made it clear when Adams left that if a player wants to go, he’ll let them. Contracts are now simply a means of ensuring we get a fair price, it’s not a guarantee that a player is with us for the full contract – it hasn’t been that for some time. If we’re “a selling club” it’ll be with Wilder’s blessing.
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Consummate common sense and a remedy for jerking knees everywhere.

There’s nothing for you here.

Maidenhead said:
I'd love to chat with Kyle Walker and ask him " if you're such a big Blade why did you leave to go to Spurs and become an overnight millionaire with a chance to play in the Premiership "

I very much doubt he would reply "that bastard McCabe made me go"

Why do you assume he did?

If a club gets an offer they are duty bound to tell a player (who's agent would know anyway)
The rest is up to the player.

You can't make em go where they dont want to.

Ask Dane Whitehouse or Dean Hammind
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See above.
 
brownie said:
I think Chris Wilder seems to be fairly pragmatic about all this, and I think the fans need to be as well.

Football is a business now, and all the power lies with the player and the agents now rather than the Football clubs, and if someone comes knocking with a huge contact for one of our players and one we can’t match, then I’m afraid we don’t even stand a prayer of keeping a player in those circumstances, with the huge disparity in money floating around the top flight compared to what is floating around the Championship, there isn’t much we can do apart from try and get the best possible deal that we can. Chris Wilder will know all this as well. As a club all we can do is operate the best we can against this back drop.

I personally don’t think this is a great move for David Brooks, he has got the potential but I think he is far from the finished article, and I didn’t think he quite looked the same player after his illness, and I think he is destined to be one of those players who will go through his career, being world class 1 week in 5. I fear for the player that it might be a step too far, too soon.

I’ve been watching United years and seen a lot of good young players come through and solicit moves early on in their career, and in many cases the moves haven’t been beneficial to the player, I’ve also seen situations where players have come trough and looked exciting and to have a big future only for their career to stall. I can remember Michael Tonge looking like a real star in the making and all the big clubs being interested but only ever ending up a solid Championship player, same with Stephen Quinn and we could have cashed in on them both. Same with Diego De Girolamo who looked to have the world at his feet, and if the Italian club would have come in with a big offer for him he would have been off like a shot, instead they didn’t, and his ended up disappearing off the face of the earth. Anyone also want to tell me what Jordan Slew is up to nowadays? We also sold on Walker and Harry Maguire, but at the time we couldn’t realistically hold on to either of them as we couldn’t offer them the money they wanted. I don’t like selling the Good young players but if they don’t want to be here then nowadays realistically we can’t keep them.

I think £12m represents a hell of a gamble for Bournemouth. They is no saying on how David Brooks career is going to pan out. He could be a one hit wonder or he could go on and be world class. Nobody knows but if we didn’t sell him and his career stalled here, then we could well have lost out on £12m. That amount of money, although is pocket money to an established premiership club like Bournemouth, it is still a hell of a lot of money for a club in the Championship like Sheffield United (our turnover a couple of years ago I believe was around the £8m Mark inclusive of player sales as well).

With the transfer fee, and people saying that he is worth more. He is only worth what people will pay for him. If people think we should hold out for more, how do they know that other clubs will pay more. A player is ultimately only worth what someone will pay for him, it is simple economics. If people think he is worth £15m or £20m, yet the biggest offer we get is £12m, then that is what his true value is.

Once he has gone, he needs to be forgotten about and we need to move on from David Brooks. As supporters we was here before David Brooks and will still be here after David Brooks is long forgotten about. What we all need to do is be a bit more pragmatic about things, understand what the lie of the land is regarding player power and agents, and place a little bit of trust in the man, and the management team that has dragged us kicking and screaming out of the pub league back in to Championship by building a team with some excellent and very shrewd signings. If we use the money to bring in 3 or 4 players to address the weaknesses that became more and more apparent as last season went on, then it is all well and good with me.
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I actually read all that brownie , and what's more I agree with you
 
FriethBlade said:
And poxy clubs like Bournemouth will remain above us whilst ever we sell them our best players.

My solice in this is we have a manager who will wisely invest whatever (likely paltry) amount he receives from the sale
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Well no, because if your agenda-driven cliché is right, he’ll be resigning soon, won’t he?
 
LS26BLADE said:
Same old Blades, first sniff of money.

Trust all this will be added to Wilders budget plus Brooks wages he was on?

Or was this the budget all along?
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I think you MAY have hit the nail on the head here mate …….. :rolleyes:

We were all congratulating the Board on having some ambition for the first time in decades and giving Tufty a mid-table budget. Could it be the budget increase is funded by some of the money from the sale of Brooks?

I'm sure that many supporters ( having heard that we're not open to selling our best players) will see this transfer fee as an opportunity to ADD to the existing mid-table budget …….

Being a sceptical old bas**rd …… I will NOT be holding my breath o_Oo_O

UTB & FTP
 
BushBlade said:
I bet we haven’t though. Do you really think businessmen like McCabe and the Prince, taking advice from Wilder, will just accept the first offer? Do you think that’s how McCabe got rich? Do you think they live in a bubble?
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I see your point mate but to be fair, whilst I totally agree that McCabe & The Prince are undoubtedly both very successful businessmen …… neither of them has ever demonstrated a deep seated knowledge and understanding of the football industry.

They appear to think that football Clubs can be run successfully as a business …… they can't !! Football clubs are the plaything of the very wealthy and regrettably, the two owners we are lumbered with are not prepared / do not have the resources to allow us to compete successfully in the Championship.

The most annoying thing about it is that they pretend that they do have the resources and they treat the supporters like mushrooms ……. o_O

UTB & FTP
 
Maidenhead said:
I'd love to chat with Kyle Walker and ask him " if you're such a big Blade why did you leave to go to Spurs and become an overnight millionaire with a chance to play in the Premiership "

I very much doubt he would reply "that bastard McCabe made me go"
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I bet he really hates McCabe. If McCabe hadn't made him go he could still be playing at BDTBL in the new shirt, with no black on it.

Instead he's been forced to play premier league and international football for the last 10yr.

I bet he doesn't even know where his Premier League winners medal is. Bet he wishes he was sat on a beach in dubai now, but hes been forced to play in another World cup, and it's all McCabes fault.
 

I'll tell me dad. said:
If we sign a replacement can we ensure that his surname can be spelt in at least three different ways please. One of which needs to be the adding or subtracting of an extra 'e' somewhere.
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We're screwed. I was looking forward to next season's front 3 of:

Brookes - Clark - Sharpe

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Apparently Wilder has the same agent (unconfirmed just what I heard).

But with regards to Adams and DCL, do you feel we would have won the league by holding onto them? Not a fucking chance.


I wasn`t criticising the sales of Adams & Calvert-Lewin, just hoping this time Wilder gets more to spend.
 
Decent money to reinvest but my one wish was for us to at least have him around long enough for people to finally spell his name right.
 
bladesmanluke said:
Definitely not. No thank you. Can’t have it both ways. We’re either forcing him out or he doesn’t want to be here and if he doesn’t want to be here I don’t want him back with his main commitment being elsewhere.
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Totally agree mate …… IF he's leaving because he wants to go then he can fuck off for me …. :rolleyes:

I don't want him back on loan, let him get splinters in his arse on the bench, or loaned out to a L1 Club where he can get kicked to f**k.

The BIG issue here for me is; will the transfer fee be added to Tufty's budget, or is Tufty's budget made up from some of the fee ?? o_Oo_O

That ….. is the issue …… because if the fee is added to his budget it allows us to fund two strikers, a CH, a LWB and an attacking midfield player ……. which is what we need to compete in the top half of the Championship.

Watch this space …….

UTB & FTP
 
Key to this is the sell on fee. Should this be IRO 20%, and Brooks in a few years time goes for big money (say £35m for arguments sake) then we will have earned IRO £20m from his transfer. Would anyone on here not sold for that amount?

If Brooks doesn't go for big money, the chances are that this will be down to his not being good enough to go for big money, and we will probably look back at the £12m as good business anyway.

Wilder is a manager capable of squeezing a rousing symphony out of a school band with kazoos and banjos. The loss of his young maverick solo violinist will of course be felt but if he wishes to fiddle to a smaller crowd in a lesser auditorium then so be it. The conductor makes the orchestra and we have one of the best in the business.
 
Darthblade said:
I see your point mate but to be fair, whilst I totally agree that McCabe & The Prince are undoubtedly both very successful businessmen …… neither of them has ever demonstrated a deep seated knowledge and understanding of the football industry.

They appear to think that football Clubs can be run successfully as a business …… they can't !! Football clubs are the plaything of the very wealthy and regrettably, the two owners we are lumbered with are not prepared / do not have the resources to allow us to compete successfully in the Championship.

The most annoying thing about it is that they pretend that they do have the resources and they treat the supporters like mushrooms ……. o_O

UTB & FTP
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Most of the supporters of course have a deep-seated understanding of fuck all.
 
How much did SWFC get for their David brooks (George Hirst) probably nothing, yet we get 12 million and people go mental about our chairmen. Swop for a Tuna salesman ?

I also feel for the potential loss but also realise that is how football is these days.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Best post I've seen from Ronnie Waldock, one of the very best posters on BM and a Blade for a very long time....



RonnieWaldock said:Today 08:27 PM
Many years ago, a very wise and wealthy man advised me (with regards to shares in quoted companies) that if the price was so high that I wouldn’t buy at that price, it was time to sell.
Now, would we pay £12-£15 million for Brooks at this time in his development?
No, I know it’s not quite the same because we couldn’t afford to (and never will be able to unless established for 2 or 3 years in the PL).
But, there is no guarantee that Brooks will turn out to be as good as everyone thinks he will. At least this way, we are guaranteed a reasonable amount, and if he does go on to great things, we get an extra windfall. If we turned it down and his career never really took off......................... !!!
Methinks the club, the board, CW and all can’t win either way."


Now there's a question for the £20m boys to answer.
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I'll answer it. That's the stock excuse we get every time the club sell someone of any value.

You esteemed poster says we are guaranteed a "decent amount" I'll also guarantee that we don't spend more than £1.5m on any individual despite CW having a decent wedge at his disposal. We can then look forward to half a dozen Lundstram types plodding around instead of someone who has us on the edge of our seats.

For evidence of this I'll throw a few examples of replacements for previously departed players:

Mick Jones/Mick Hill
TC/Hamson & Bradford
Beattie/the other Beattie
Maguire/McEveley
 
snootyfenooty said:
I'll answer it. That's the stock excuse we get every time the club sell someone of any value.

You esteemed poster says we are guaranteed a "decent amount" I'll also guarantee that we don't spend more than £1.5m on any individual despite CW having a decent wedge at his disposal. We can then look forward to half a dozen Lundstram types plodding around instead of someone who has us on the edge of our seats.

For evidence of this I'll throw a few examples of replacements for previously departed players:

Mick Jones/Mick Hill
TC/Hamson & Bradford
Beattie/the other Beattie
Maguire/McEveley
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We’ve just got to face it the powers what be are happy if we are a mid table championship side.
Anybody on here who advocates the selling of Brooks, well what can you say
 

Tom Bott said:
How much did SWFC get for their David brooks (George Hirst) probably nothing, yet we get 12 million and people go mental about our chairmen. Swop for a Tuna salesman ?

I also feel for the potential loss but also realise that is how football is these days.
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Hirst didn't start a single senior game for them and isn't an international footballer, not comparable.
 
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