Creswell & Monty out for 'financial reasons'

[Bladesman]

Latest rumour update from BM board last night, which sort of makes sense as Wilson has stated there has been no interest from clubs for Cressy and Monty:

"The club are trying to cancel the contracts of Cresswell and Monty, talks are talking place. This could happen if either player is still here come September. This will also keep the players free to find a club after the window closes. There will be at least 2 players coming in before the window closes if these 2 players leave. Times are tough, but its not all gloom. For the record, all you McCabe critics, the guy is bailing the club out on a monthly basis, don't get frustrated, just support the club.We are all Blades and want the same thing. Ps, no bids for Quinn or Harry."

Cancelling their contracts will probably be most likely.

 

[SRBlade]

I can understand DW frustrations, especially as he did not negotiate their contracts, but I don't think we will miss Cresswell as much when Porter gets fit. As for Montgomery I feel embarrassed for the club that a senior pro who has been at United since the age of 16 is being treated in this manner, that said he could always renegotiate terms to suit both the club and himself.

God only knows why we never installed any clauses in contracts which meant, had we been relegated (from the championship) all concerning players would have their wages reduced by X%.

 

[borbokis]

Im confused.



Now they arent in the squad and we have more academy and young hungry players playing, folk are moaning that Cresswell and Monty arent in the squad.

You couldnt make it up

Don't think anyone is moaning, I've not seen a post in this thread from anyone saying they want monty and cressell to play

 

[stannyblade]

Really ??? do you have the figures to support such a statement ?
Not allowing Danny to play Monty or Cresswell would suggest exactly the opposite, sounds like a load of bollocks to me but if he is bailing the club out he is at least doing the right thing afterall he is the main reason we are in the present financial mess. I'm sure another chunk of Bramall lane spirited away through the hall of mirrors will soothe his bleeding heart.

So let me get this right ----- You want Monty and Cresswell to play?
Cresswell maybe but why play Monty when McCallister can do just as badly for a lot less money

 

[metalblade]

So let me get this right ----- You want Monty and Cresswell to play?
Cresswell maybe but why play Monty when McCallister can do just as badly for a lot less money

Where does it say I want Monty or Cresswell to play ??? far from it I'd sooner they were elsewhere............. my point was McCabe it would seem is not bailing out United on a monthly basis otherwise Danny would be free to play them should he choose to.

 

[Micalijo]

I am way out of the loop regarding what goes on at the Lane. It does concern me though, when I get emails away from this forum that suggest Wilson is ready to walk, if things back stage aren't improved by October. Can someone confirm that this information is bollocks? The reference to McCabe in Mialijo's post is mirrored in the posts that I have received.

Which post exactly Sirius? Interested to know - I've posted a few mate.

 

[sheffielder]

Which post exactly Sirius? Interested to know - I've posted a few mate.

Wilson resigned in the summer, not a well known fact but let's just say he was on a similar rolling agreement to Porter, and you know what happened to Porter's contract

 

[Micalijo]

Wilson resigned in the summer, not a well known fact but let's just say he was on a similar rolling agreement to Porter, and you know what happened to Porter's contract

Did he? Interesting stuff. No surprise at all - chairman meddling in team affairs etc. Is that what Sirius was getting at?

 

[sheffielder]

Did he? Interesting stuff. No surprise at all - chairman meddling in team affairs etc. Is that what Sirius was getting at?

I don't consider what McCabe is doing with Cresswell and Monty as meddling, it's common sense.. unfortunately a few years too late. The reason he resigned is not the same and the answer is in the original post. Where you think Porter, you could also look at Williamson and McDonald who were all offered reduced terms........

 

[Gareth]

I don't consider what McCabe is doing with Cresswell and Monty as meddling, it's common sense.. unfortunately a few years too late. The reason he resigned is not the same and the answer is in the original post. Where you think Porter, you could also look at Williamson and McDonald who were all offered reduced terms........

The question of if they're good enough is pretty much redundant, the fact that manager can't play who he wants from his available players is meddling and it's a VERY bad practice for any club to get involved with.

 

[bartman]

Wilson resigned in the summer, not a well known fact but let's just say he was on a similar rolling agreement to Porter, and you know what happened to Porter's contract

It is not a well known fact because it didn't really happen the way you are suggesting (my source ? one of DW's back room staff)

There are issues,which I think you can deduce from the topic of this thread,but his contract was not(and is not) one of them.

 

[super_pig]

in this particular scenario i'm quite happy for KM to meddle .. meddle on Kev.. finally someone has seen the light

 

[sheffielder]

It is not a well known fact because it didn't really happen the way you are suggesting (my source ? one of DW's back room staff)

There are issues,which I think you can deduce from the topic of this thread,but his contract was not(and is not) one of them.

My source comes higher than backroom staff and I have no reason to not believe. He was given a 2 year rolling contract and they offered him his 2nd year at reduced terms just like they did with Porter.

 

[sheffielder]

The question of if they're good enough is pretty much redundant, the fact that manager can't play who he wants from his available players is meddling and it's a VERY bad practice for any club to get involved with.

Bit sick of talking about Cresswell and Monty to be honest, and Wilson is getting right on my tits for this. If Wilson was considering playing them both again this year then he needs the boot, put Morgan in charge. Fuck me Wilson should be please his name is not Michael Appleton..

 

[bartman]

My source comes higher than backroom staff and I have no reason to not believe. He was given a 2 year rolling contract and they offered him his 2nd year at reduced terms just like they did with Porter.

Your source must be on the Board then . If you have a source that is that well connected,you will know what DW's main concerns are and his contract is deffo not one of them.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Bit sick of talking about Cresswell and Monty to be honest, and Wilson is getting right on my tits for this. If Wilson was considering playing them both again this year then he needs the boot, put Morgan in charge. Fuck me Wilson should be please his name is not Michael Appleton..

Totally Agree!
Cresswell and Monty should not even be in the equation ( I would also include Porter in that statement too!)
Also, with the money they are on I hope they are paying to sit in the stand to watch the match!

 

[JohnDenver]

you will know what DW's main concerns are and his contract is deffo not one of them.

It's the length of the South Stand pie queue. FACT.

 

[bartman]

It's the length of the South Stand pie queue. FACT.

Wrong....it's that Batho and Steer are always in front of him in the queue and he never gets a pie. FACT

 

[sheffielder]

Your source must be on the Board then . If you have a source that is that well connected,you will know what DW's main concerns are and his contract is deffo not one of them.

What his concerns are now are different to what they were then, so it doesn't mean it didn't happen. When he signed back on he knew what he was getting himself into so none of this is all a shock. My gripe on here is that maybe people are pecking at the wrong McCabe. Are you alluding to Doyle and/or Collins?

 

[raul]

My gripe on here is that maybe people are pecking at the wrong McCabe.

A bit like asking Manure fans to choose their favourite Glazer tbh

 

[bartman]

. Are you alluding to Doyle and/or Collins?

Yes....he knew the situation with Monty and Cresswell already

 

[JohnDenver]

A bit like asking Manure fans to choose their favourite Glazer tbh

That's easy. The good looking one.

 

[Kenilworth]

A bit like asking Manure fans to choose their favourite Glazer tbh

Yeah. It's about time someone put their windows in

 

[Kenilworth]

Yes....he knew the situation with Monty and Cresswell already

Well bartman and sheffielder I guess we have approx 8 days to wait and see.........................

 

[Gareth]

Bit sick of talking about Cresswell and Monty to be honest, and Wilson is getting right on my tits for this. If Wilson was considering playing them both again this year then he needs the boot, put Morgan in charge. Fuck me Wilson should be please his name is not Michael Appleton..

Are you for for real?

Wilson has only mentioned this ONCE and he is perfectly entitled to do so, WE'RE the ones talking about this.
　
"Let's put Morgan in charge" WHAT? Wilson has done nothing but handle this complete and utter mess with upmost dignity and respect for the fans. He is the only manager in my time that has been completely honest and pushed the board to open and honest with the situation rather than making up ridiculous excuses and hiding behind silly comments.
　
As I've said the fact that Monty and Cressy aren't good enough in most peoples opinions is a side issue, the real issue is that Wilson doesn't have the choice to decide that despite them belonging to our squad. First team selection should be the choice of the manager and the manager alone, the fact that the board have told him he can't play player X,Y or Z is quite frankly embarrassing for our club.

The Michael Appleton comment, really? Why do we have to go the lowest form for comparison? Why can't he consider himself unlucky that he's not got Roberto Manchinis wage bill? The fact that Portsmouth are financially mismanaged does not make this an acceptable situation for Sheffield United.

 

[Balham]

Gareth I agree with almost everything you say but the board is within its rights to say to Wilson that Montgomery and Cresswell shouldn't play.

If you're running a factory and it's got two ageing pieces of kit which costs more than you can afford each time you start them up, shouldn't the company's board step in when you insist on jeopardising the future of the business by continuing to use them?

The fact is that we have ready made replacements for both Cresswell (Porter and Ironside) and Montgomery (Doyle, Whitehouse and Harriott) who are cheaper and arguably more effective.

 

[Bladesman]

Gareth I agree with almost everything you say but the board is within its rights to say to Wilson that Montgomery and Cresswell shouldn't play.

If you're running a factory and it's got two ageing pieces of kit which costs more than you can afford each time you start them up, shouldn't the company's board step in when you insist on jeopardising the future of the business by continuing to use them?

The fact is that we have ready made replacements for both Cresswell (Porter and Ironside) and Montgomery (Doyle, Whitehouse and Harriott) who are cheaper and arguably more effective.

Exactly and even if Wilson could play them I think they are two players that regardless of the financial situation wouldn't get in the first team.

I think if DW had just said "I am looking to offload Cressy and Monty because they no longer fit into my plans" then I think most of us would of just gone "Yep that makes sense".

Bye Bye Richard and Nick thanks for the years of service.

 

[puppet]

Gareth I agree with almost everything you say but the board is within its rights to say to Wilson that Montgomery and Cresswell shouldn't play.

If you're running a factory and it's got two ageing pieces of kit which costs more than you can afford each time you start them up, shouldn't the company's board step in when you insist on jeopardising the future of the business by continuing to use them?

The fact is that we have ready made replacements for both Cresswell (Porter and Ironside) and Montgomery (Doyle, Whitehouse and Harriott) who are cheaper and arguably more effective.

That would hold some water if Mccabe actually knew how to run the factory in the first place... or had maybe not paid so much for them in advance without considering the crippling effects of their depreciation value to said business. Or maybe he's more concerned with making sure he gets a hotel for a quid and the ground transferred into his ownership as a result of said 'bad mistakes'....

 

[Bergen Blade]

I would love to know the name of the individual who made the decision to renew Monty's contract in the summer of 2010. Obviously, McCabe ultimately signed off on the deal, but someone, somewhere, must have thought it was a good idea and recommended it...

1 Kevin Blackwell was given a budget.
2 Blackwell told which players he'd like to spend it on.
3 Trever Birch finalised the deals.

 

[chipsncake]

1 Kevin Blackwell was given a budget.
2 Blackwell told which players he'd like to spend it on.
3 Trever Birch finalised the deals.

Can't believe for a minute that McCabe didn't give the final nod. Either way he still has no one to blame but himself.