Gone Elsewhere Conor Coady

[YES Blade]

I'd have him back in a heart beat but there is no chance this would happen due to wages and fee. He'd probably also be aiming a bit higher than a team just promoted to the Championship.

 

[FTPE]

Yes he's better than Coutts.

 

[Booker4]

Yes he's better than Coutts.

He might be better than Coutts but I don't think its an area that we need to spend the type of money thjat we'd need to buy Coady. He would probably cost us £3m and I personally would rather see us spend that type of money on a top forward (maybe Ched answers that now - if fit) and at the back. It's the defence that worries me the most in the league above. We need a top quality centre back and in my view a better left wing back.

Back to Coutts, I think he is more than capable of doing a decent job in the Championship and I think it would be an unnecessary risk to break up the Fleck and Coutts partnership.

 

[YES Blade]

He might be better than Coutts but I don't think its an area that we need to spend the type of money thjat we'd need to buy Coady. He would probably cost us £3m and I personally would rather see us spend that type of money on a top forward (maybe Ched answers that now - if fit) and at the back. It's the defence that worries me the most in the league above. We need a top quality centre back and in my view a better left wing back.

Back to Coutts, I think he is more than capable of doing a decent job in the Championship and I think it would be an unnecessary risk to break up the Fleck and Coutts partnership.

The problem is that £3m doesn't get you a top championship striker. You're looking at £8m - £10m for one of those.

 

[Booker4]

The problem is that £3m doesn't get you a top championship striker. You're looking at £8m - £10m for one of those.

Not a top Championship striker currently playing in the Championship. But I reckon £3m would get us a top forward for this league if we do our homework right. For example, Bristol City spent £2m on Jonathon Kodija and Brentford paid £750,000 for Scott Hogan and they both got 19/20 at a ration of 1/2 before moving on. There are some bargains out there, whether in League One, abroad, or uncovered in a reserve team in either the Prem or Championship. I'm not saying James Vaughan would score 1/2 but that type of signing wouldn't cost us millions. Ched because of his circumstances may well prove to be a 1/2 who knows. I don't see us spending millions this summer like Wednesday say have done and still not got promoted automatically.

 

[LJBlade]

The problem is that £3m doesn't get you a top championship striker. You're looking at £8m - £10m for one of those.

Not always. Chris Wood cost Leeds about £3m.

Tammy Abraham is on loan so wouldn't have cost loads.

When he signed for Bournemouth Glenn Murray cost £4m. When he signed for Brighton it was undisclosed but I can't see them having paid double.

Those 3 are the division leading scorers.

 

[S64 Blade]

The problem is that £3m doesn't get you a top championship striker. You're looking at £8m - £10m for one of those.

Only if you're Wednesdays and are willing to pay over the odds for someone who can't score.

 

[Ricky]

Coady and Saville from Wolves would both be good signings but I think both are a bit too established for what we'll be looking for in that position.

 

[YES Blade]

So it's not a current "top" championship striker, it's gamble £3m and hope he turns into a top striker.

Can't argue with that approach

 

[super_pig]

Coady would be a great signing but i can't see him leaving a team like Wolves unless there is a big fall out somewhere behind the scenes

 

[FTPE]

He might be better than Coutts but I don't think its an area that we need to spend the type of money thjat we'd need to buy Coady. He would probably cost us £3m and I personally would rather see us spend that type of money on a top forward (maybe Ched answers that now - if fit) and at the back. It's the defence that worries me the most in the league above. We need a top quality centre back and in my view a better left wing back.

Back to Coutts, I think he is more than capable of doing a decent job in the Championship and I think it would be an unnecessary risk to break up the Fleck and Coutts partnership.

Honest question, I haven't really thought about how I feel but do you think Coutts is just the sort of player that complements Fleck or is he just a similar yet watered down version of him?
Is there anything Coutts does that Fleck can't?
For his size Fleck harasses and intercepts more balls, gets stuck in more and that's before we get onto the quality he has with the ball.
Do you even need your partner to be the oppositte to you? Is the idea of neesing a big man/ little man up top or a ball winner/centre half with pace -an old fashion way of thinking?

 

[FriethBlade]

^^ good question, I think Wilder will go with both Coutts and Fleck at the start next season but they will need to score more. I wonder whether we need an all action, box to box, goal scoring central midfielder too. Neither Fleck or Coutts score enough and we can't rely on Sharp getting 30 and Freeman double figures next season so where are the goals coming from?

Nice problem to have though as they definitely deserve the starting spots after this season.

 

[adebo]

Yes he's better than Coutts.

At what? Making tea?

 

[FTPE]

At what? Making tea?

Great point.

 

[Blade29]

No improvement on Coutts so it's a no from me..

Coutts isn't a championship player

 

[itsinyerblood]

Coutts isn't a championship player

And that's based on? It won't be long before we discover exactly whether Coutts, as well as those other players who are retained by Wilder, can deliver in the Championship. I know a forum entitles everyone to air their opinions, but often all they do is confirm that a forum version of football punditry has little understanding of what a player is capable of. If Coutts disappoints then we move on, but if he shows the same levels of excellence that he has this season then surely any Unitedite would be happy, wouldn't they? You are a Unitedite aren't you Chris?

 

[YouFUMS]

Coutts isn't a championship player

I agree...the lads Premier league

 

[sheffielder]

And that's based on? It won't be long before we discover exactly whether Coutts, as well as those other players who are retained by Wilder, can deliver in the Championship. I know a forum entitles everyone to air their opinions, but often all they do is confirm that a forum version of football punditry has little understanding of what a player is capable of. If Coutts disappoints then we move on, but if he shows the same levels of excellence that he has this season then surely any Unitedite would be happy, wouldn't they? You are a Unitedite aren't you Chris?

What because he doesn't rate Coutts he's not a unitedite? Is that how this works

 

[sheffielder]

At what? Making tea?

Coutts might just put his spoon in!

 

[itsinyerblood]

What because he doesn't rate Coutts he's not a unitedite? Is that how this works

Sorry, but my question was posed to someone who's never posted on here before, and yes, he may be a Unitedite, but it's also been known for strays to wander in from S6 and plant there mischievous seed simply because they can. It's down to him to provide a response, something I hope he'll do, but I'm not holding my breath in anticipation.

 

[Chief_Froley]

Coutts might just put his spoon in!

Not claiming to be ITK but I hear Coutts likes to make his tea by putting the milk in first, then bag, then milk.

The fucking savage.

 

[BerksBlade]

Coady has been playing at right-back for Wolves lately.

 

[dannycorker]

Out of our midfield I think Coutts is the one I would be most surprised to see make it in the Championship, especially if he gets a longer contract, I've just never been able to see what exactly it is that he provides to the team. In fact, I think Fleck is the only one I have much confidence in making the step up. Coady was great last time he was here, and I'd be glad to see him back, but can't see it happening. Whoever we sign, I can't wait to see our line up 4 or 5 games in once Wilder has got a feel for things - we made mistakes at the start of this season, there's just no knowing until the season starts. For the first time I can remember though, I have faith in the manager to get it right once that time comes!

 

[bertieblade]

Coutts and Fleck will both in my opinion thrive in the championship where you have to retain possession and be patient before playing playing the right ball to release their forwards.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Why are people questioning Coutts' ability to play in the Champ even though he's already played not far off 100 games in it for P'boro, Preston and Derby?

If it weren't for his awful injury he certainly wouldn't have spent the last couple of years playing in L1.

 

[sheffielder]

Why are people questioning Coutts' ability to play in the Champ even though he's already played not far off 100 games in it for P'boro, Preston and Derby?

If it weren't for his awful injury he certainly wouldn't have spent the last couple of years playing in L1.

The problem with coutts for me is that he doesn't get back in or track back and usually ends up with him taking a yellow card. That being said, that did improve towards the end of the season but he has question marks for me.

 

[Mouth of the South]

The problem with coutts for me is that he doesn't get back in or track back and usually ends up with him taking a yellow card. That being said, that did improve towards the end of the season but he has question marks for me.

I don't disagree with your points or that he lacks a yard of pace. However, he has the ability to control and dictate games and links well with Fleck. CW obviously needs to follow the golden rule when building effective teams of recruiting to cover areas of weakness and a big, physical central midfielder enforcer would be a welcome addition to the squad.

 

[sheffielder]

I don't disagree with your points or that he lacks a yard of pace. However, he has the ability to control and dictate games and links well with Fleck. CW obviously needs to follow the golden rule when building effective teams of recruiting to cover areas of weakness and a big, physical central midfielder enforcer would be a welcome addition to the squad.

I think that's where a player like coady would be good. A ying to flecks yang with coutts in the middle of both for example. Not sure I would turn up at villa park with our current midfield 3 as a tactic

 

[Mouth of the South]

I think that's where a player like coady would be good. A ying to flecks yang with coutts in the middle of both for example. Not sure I would turn up at villa park with our current midfield 3 as a tactic

Horses for courses and we'll most probably see a different midfield line-up when Utd are away to Villa as we will when they're at home to Burton, with Coutts more likely to play in the latter rather than the former. I still think he'll have a lot to offer next season esp if CW sticks with a mid 3.

 

[YES Blade]

Why are people questioning Coutts' ability to play in the Champ even though he's already played not far off 100 games in it for P'boro, Preston and Derby?

If it weren't for his awful injury he certainly wouldn't have spent the last couple of years playing in L1.

The thing for me is that if he was Championship level he wouldn't have had a season and a half looking gash in League One. He would have also been kept in the Championship by Derby or signed by a Championship club if he was proven at that level.

You can blame managers etc, but to me a player like Fleck would have still stood out under Clough and Adkins (he was quality with Cov for example) cause he's clearly a player who is Championship if not lower Premier League quality.

That's not to say Coutts won't make it in the Championship but there are definitely question marks.