Gone Elsewhere Conor Coady

[CaptainMorgans]

Wolves could accept cut-price Conor Coady bid from Sheffield United

Football Insider has learned that Wolves could accept a cut-price fee for defender Conor Coady this summer amid interest from Sheffield United.

www.footballinsider247.com

Pete O'Rourke says Wolves would listen to low-ball offers.
Coady is on 55k a week there.
But we "are putting it on hold until a resolution to the takeover situation" that shows no signs of resolving any time soon...

 

[ancientblade]

No harm in having a conversation, but I’d only be happy signing him if the deal was an absolute bargain. It just doesn’t make sense to spend a good chunk of our budget to strengthen an area which doesn’t really need strengthening.

what happens if anel or egan get injuries ? plus hecky has already said he wants another centre back to come some on here talking rubbish about coady would be a quality signing if we could get him for 5m and would definetly increase our chances of staying in the premier league

 

[Chingo]

Facebook itk … yes I know but he’s been right before says he’s signed

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Sorry, LondonBlade89 .

Here's 'Men... Without Hats.'

Tune.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

what happens if anel or egan get injuries ? plus hecky has already said he wants another centre back to come some on here talking rubbish about coady would be a quality signing if we could get him for 5m and would definetly increase our chances of staying in the premier league

In a season’s time if we stay up, then a Coady type of signing would be great, ‘but’ & it’s a big ‘but’, if talk of our limited transfer & wage budget is true, what we’d have to spend on buying & paying Coady would be better off spent elsewhere. Like CF or a goal scoring CM.

If we are signing him to play DCM, then that’s a risk because he’s been turned into a ball playing CB, that enjoys the protection of a LCB and RCB. We’d be wanting him to be mobile, leggy & be able to put out fires.

Say Coady is available for £4m to £5m and wants £50k a week. I think that in this instance we’d be better of with Doyle on loan and Ciaran Clark on a free for a season. That gives us a starter & cover for little outlay and little risk.

 

[mancunianblade]

Understand where you're coming from but I'd disagree that that area doesn't really need strengthening. If, as is expected, Basham departs then we're light in that department and will have to sign anyway. Hopefully there are a few decent freebies knocking about...

Why would Basham depart?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Wolves could accept cut-price Conor Coady bid from Sheffield United

Football Insider has learned that Wolves could accept a cut-price fee for defender Conor Coady this summer amid interest from Sheffield United.

www.footballinsider247.com

Pete O'Rourke says Wolves would listen to low-ball offers.
Coady is on 55k a week there.
But we "are putting it on hold until a resolution to the takeover situation" that shows no signs of resolving any time soon...

It’s football insider however that aside, if they’re open to low ball offers under £5m this starts to make more sense if that is in the region of £2-3m.
He’ll have to take a bath on his 50k/week too but if we’re signing experienced back up for the centre/right side this would have more logic to it at those reduced levels.
We just need to still have the funds to pick up the young first teamers like Greaves who’ll move us forward.
The takeover stuff delay is throw away for me, we have some funds so if they wanted to push the button on this they could. Makes me more confident it is a lowball offer, and they’re going to come back to it once they’ve worked on other more significant deals.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Why would Basham depart?

He’s not, he’s arriving

 

[Torrix1889]

In a season’s time if we stay up, then a Coady type of signing would be great, ‘but’ & it’s a big ‘but’, if talk of our limited transfer & wage budget is true, what we’d have to spend on buying & paying Coady would be better off spent elsewhere. Like CF or a goal scoring CM.

If we are signing him to play DCM, then that’s a risk because he’s been turned into a ball playing CB, that enjoys the protection of a LCB and RCB. We’d be wanting him to be mobile, leggy & be able to put out fires.

Say Coady is available for £4m to £5m and wants £50k a week. I think that in this instance we’d be better of with Doyle on loan and Ciaran Clark on a free for a season. That gives us a starter & cover for little outlay and little risk.

Ciaran Clark.....really....?

 

[ancientblade]

In a season’s time if we stay up, then a Coady type of signing would be great, ‘but’ & it’s a big ‘but’, if talk of our limited transfer & wage budget is true, what we’d have to spend on buying & paying Coady would be better off spent elsewhere. Like CF or a goal scoring CM.

If we are signing him to play DCM, then that’s a risk because he’s been turned into a ball playing CB, that enjoys the protection of a LCB and RCB. We’d be wanting him to be mobile, leggy & be able to put out fires.

Say Coady is available for £4m to £5m and wants £50k a week. I think that in this instance we’d be better of with Doyle on loan and Ciaran Clark on a free for a season. That gives us a starter & cover for little outlay and little risk.

even if hecky does only have 20m to spend which im dubious about spending half of it on coady and obrien for a combined 10m would be good business imo and would definetly improve our chances of staying in the premier league yes we need strikers 2 imo but with a low budget and the cost of strikers those 2 would surely have to be loans or frees

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Ciaran Clark.....really....?

On a free for a year, to feature no more than 10 times in all competitions, and at worst plug a gap at CCB should Egan get injured? Yes.

 

[ancientblade]

On a free for a year, to feature no more than 10 times in all competitions, and at worst plug a gap at CCB should Egan get injured? Yes.

yes would agree with you on a free and on our terms still a solid centre back as back up

 

[Torrix1889]

On a free for a year, to feature no more than 10 times in all competitions, and at worst plug a gap at CCB should Egan get injured? Yes.

Based on what exactly from his stint last season?

Apart from one game, (home, against a diabolically poor Cardiff) he was distinctly average at best and a liability otherwise......he made JLT look world class FFS. If there were no other LCB's available and all the other RCB's in the world that could play LCB had broken their legs then maybe I would agree.....

 

[Mouth of the South]

Based on what exactly from his stint last season?

Apart from one game, (home, against a diabolically poor Cardiff) he was distinctly average at best and a liability otherwise......he made JLT look world class FFS. If there were no other LCB's available and all the other RCB's in the world that could play LCB had broken their legs then maybe I would agree.....

Agree - a replacement for 'bombscare' Robinson is required but the answer certainly isn't Clark.

I'm not sure why some on here are set on the club recruiting players that aren't good enough to play in the Prem. Clark would have been a better option 3-4 years ago but, as shown when he was eventually fit last season, if he's unable to displace Robinson from the side, then (much) better is required.

Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, but I don't think he's a patch on Coady.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Agree - a replacement for 'bombscare' Robinson is required but the answer certainly isn't Clark.

I'm not sure why some on here are set on the club recruiting players that aren't good enough to play in the Prem. Clark would have been a better option 3-4 years ago but, as shown when he was eventually fit last season, if he's unable to displace Robinson from the side, then (much) better is required.

Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, but I don't think he's a patch on Coady.

I'm not saying that we buy Clark as a replacement for anyone, what i am suggesting him as is a relatively cheap, experienced bench warmer/cover/cup game player, that can, in the rare times called upon do a 'job'. Signed on no more than a 1 yr deal. He has been released by Newcastle on a free & he was at the club last season, and unless he is a complete cock that didn't fit in with the dressing room, then i don't see a down side. He'd basically fulfill the same role as he did last season.

I see the defensive 5 for next season as: New Player (Lowe), RND (JLT), Egan (CC), Anel (Bash), Baldock (Bogle). That is the best I think we can do. The new LWB has to be attacking in outlook, capable at beating a man & delivering a cross.

 

[billyblademan]

Agree - a replacement for 'bombscare' Robinson is required but the answer certainly isn't Clark.

I'm not sure why some on here are set on the club recruiting players that aren't good enough to play in the Prem. Clark would have been a better option 3-4 years ago but, as shown when he was eventually fit last season, if he's unable to displace Robinson from the side, then (much) better is required.

Everyone is of course entitled to their opinion, but I don't think he's a patch on Coady.

He's not, but the point is Clark is on a free and will accept playing a dozen times or so including the Cup. Coady will cost a transfer fee, more in wages, and expect to be playing. Is he getting ahead of Egan? Nope. Is he getting ahead of Anel? Nope. Are we going to put a right footer at LCB? Probably not. Good player, and in 9/10 scenarios, he'd be a great signing for us - but as Nic says, we can use our limited resources better.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I'd take Clark if he could stay fit but he never could. Every time we needed him, he wasn't there

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

even if hecky does only have 20m to spend which im dubious about spending half of it on coady and obrien for a combined 10m would be good business imo and would definetly improve our chances of staying in the premier league yes we need strikers 2 imo but with a low budget and the cost of strikers those 2 would surely have to be loans or frees

To have any chance of staying up, we've got to score at least 40 goals & concede no more than 60. We currently do not have the fire power or creativity to get to 40 goals, therefore, in my opinion all the money and loans need to be focused towards that ability. Buying Conor Coady for £2m, £3m, £4m or £5m is taking money away from strengthening our attacking ability, same goes for O'Brien at anything from £5m to £8m. Little holes that need plugging up like back up CCB's should be done for as little money & risk as possible.

If the budget is £20m, then £10m to £12m of that needs to go on a foreign based CF (based in France, Italy or Spain, more than likely fully capped at international level for an African country), then about £5m on an attacking LWB.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

If the budget is £20m, then £10m to £12m of that needs to go on a foreign based CF (based in France, Italy or Spain, more than likely fully capped at international level for an African country).

Okereke - Cremonese - WP Pass
Nzola - Spezia - WP Pass
Dia - Salernitana - WP Pass
Piatek - Salernitana - WP Pass
Balde - Troyes - WP Pass
Diallo - Strasbourg - WP Pass
Toure - Almeria - WP Pass
Yusupha - Boavista - WP Pass
Banza - Braga - WP Pass
Zinho - Zulte Waregem - WP Pass
Mouandilmadji - Seraing WP Pass

 

[Mouth of the South]

I'm not saying that we buy Clark as a replacement for anyone, what i am suggesting him as is a relatively cheap, experienced bench warmer/cover/cup game player, that can, in the rare times called upon do a 'job'. Signed on no more than a 1 yr deal. He has been released by Newcastle on a free & he was at the club last season, and unless he is a complete cock that didn't fit in with the dressing room, then i don't see a down side. He'd basically fulfill the same role as he did last season.

I see the defensive 5 for next season as: New Player (Lowe), RND (JLT), Egan (CC), Anel (Bash), Baldock (Bogle). That is the best I think we can do. The new LWB has to be attacking in outlook, capable at beating a man & delivering a cross.

What makes you think he'd be cheap or that he'd be happy to be a back-up and/or only play a small number of games? Just because Utd only made a contribution to his salary last season doesn't mean he'd settle for that amount nor forgo a sizeable signing-on fee with his next club.

Personally, I wouldn't want to see Clark play a game for Utd at Prem level, never mind 10. The acid test being PH preferred Robinson when both were fit with Robinson himself being a long way off Prem quality - as shown at Wembley.

 

[mattbianco1]

Okereke - Cremonese - WP Pass
Nzola - Spezia - WP Pass
Dia - Salernitana - WP Pass
Piatek - Salernitana - WP Pass
Balde - Troyes - WP Pass
Diallo - Strasbourg - WP Pass
Toure - Almeria - WP Pass
Yusupha - Boavista - WP Pass
Banza - Braga - WP Pass
Zinho - Zulte Waregem - WP Pass
Mouandilmadji - Seraing WP Pass

Bottom one. Just to hear our fans try and pronounce it

 

[BobbyDavison'sDebut]

To have any chance of staying up, we've got to score at least 40 goals & concede no more than 60. We currently do not have the fire power or creativity to get to 40 goals, therefore, in my opinion all the money and loans need to be focused towards that ability. Buying Conor Coady for £2m, £3m, £4m or £5m is taking money away from strengthening our attacking ability, same goes for O'Brien at anything from £5m to £8m. Little holes that need plugging up like back up CCB's should be done for as little money & risk as possible.

If the budget is £20m, then £10m to £12m of that needs to go on a foreign based CF (based in France, Italy or Spain, more than likely fully capped at international level for an African country), then about £5m on an attacking LWB.

Only issue with getting a CF who is an African international is they would potentially miss a month for AFCON so they would be out for a month plus Ndiaye as well

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Doesn’t some of our need for cb cover depend on what the situation is with RND? If he’s fit he is arguably the LCB we need. I guess the issue will always be when he is fit and how much the injury impacts on him for the future.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Only issue with getting a CF who is an African international is they would potentially miss a month for AFCON so they would be out for a month plus Ndiaye as well

Yep, that's definitely a down side, and one that needs to be factored into any decision we make.

Overall, I think at this moment in time, that profile of player is still under the radar and good value/under value, especially coming out of the relegated or unfashionable clubs. The players that I've highlighted above are all 29 or younger, 1 in 2, to 1 in 3 ratio forwards, with mobility, physicality and good technique, all played in a goodish level league, have been exposed to international level football, and would pass the WP criteria. All of whom costing between £5m to £12m. I know it's a punt, but we might have to make an informed/semi informed one in the summer.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Bottom one. Just to hear our fans try and pronounce it

He also goes by the name of Marius

11 in 26 this season for the worst team in the Belgian top league. 25 yrs old and stands 6ft 3 in his stocking feet and spent 3 years at Porto/Porto B. He's a handful and getting better, more prolific as he gets older.

 

[TJB.]

Why would Basham depart?

My mistake, I thought he was one of the out of contract crew. Think it still stands to reason that he's not quite at the standard required, sadly.

 

[Bladesman]

I'd take Clark if he could stay fit but he never could. Every time we needed him, he wasn't there

Yet scored 2 goals but I agree him only making 10 games some of which were as subs is rather poor.

He wasn't at the promotion parade so I assume it wasn't just injury keeping him away, I don't think Hecky rated him anymore.

 

[mancunianblade]

My mistake, I thought he was one of the out of contract crew. Think it still stands to reason that he's not quite at the standard required, sadly.

I agree I don’t think he is. He had a clause where his contract renewed after so many appearances I think.

 

[TCsLoveChild]

He also goes by the name of Marius

11 in 26 this season for the worst team in the Belgian top league. 25 yrs old and stands 6ft 3 in his stocking feet and spent 3 years at Porto/Porto B. He's a handful and getting better, more prolific as he gets older.

Looks good but it’s a pity they don’t do show reels that show all the mistakes and misses a player makes, it would probably tell you just as much if not more than these ^ UTB

 

[Champagneblade]

In a season’s time if we stay up, then a Coady type of signing would be great, ‘but’ & it’s a big ‘but’, if talk of our limited transfer & wage budget is true, what we’d have to spend on buying & paying Coady would be better off spent elsewhere. Like CF or a goal scoring CM.

If we are signing him to play DCM, then that’s a risk because he’s been turned into a ball playing CB, that enjoys the protection of a LCB and RCB. We’d be wanting him to be mobile, leggy & be able to put out fires.

Say Coady is available for £4m to £5m and wants £50k a week. I think that in this instance we’d be better of with Doyle on loan and Ciaran Clark on a free for a season. That gives us a starter & cover for little outlay and little risk.

Could be this season's Jagielka but about 6 years younger!