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Without MGW and Berge we lose a lot of ability and 'charisma'. In our position they are virtually irreplaceable. Promotion could have made the difference between keeping them and not. It's a gut punch. Without spending I can't see beyond mid-table.
 



The only advantage of losing the semi final is that it gives us more time to plan in the knowledge of which division we are going to be in. No doubt we will have already sounded out players and agents and it gives us an opportunity to steal a March on the competition As no doubt players like to know ASAP whether we are seriously interested.
having watched that last night, assuming we can match wages who would not want to join us
plenty of us say this every year and yet we leave it too late every year to sign and adequately bed in players.
"He really needed a full pre-season"
"He isnt upto speed because our pre season is a lot harder than other clubs etc"
We also didnt arrange enough meaningful friendlies last year.
Hopefully we will make a better fist of it this year, even if we don't get the new investment we desperately need
 
The pride l felt last night after getting the tactics spot on and having the bravery to dominate and control the game against a very good counter attacking team has turned to worry this morning. Gibbs White gone and Berge unlikely to be here, that’s one hell of a void to fill from the get go with a small budget.
 
Erm, you are aware we’ve just turned a profit in our accounts aren’t you?

Not many in this league can say that.

Yes a £9 million profit, after receiving £40 million in parachute payments and selling Ramsdale for £20 million

I think the parachute payments drop to about £25 million this year, so even more savage cuts will be needed.

Sheffield United eh
The only club who giving Premier League money to is actually a hindrance
 
I think we need at least;

Goalkeeper (unless we keep Davies on)
x2 centre backs
x2 centre midfielders
x2 strikers

That’s assuming we keep hold of our key players.
 
Yes a £9 million profit, after receiving £40 million in parachute payments and selling Ramsdale for £20 million

I think the parachute payments drop to about £25 million this year, so even more savage cuts will be needed.

Sheffield United eh
The only club who giving Premier League money to is actually a hindrance

Ramsdale money wasn't in the last set of accounts as it only went up to July. We've also got parachute payments again next season and we'll significantly reduce the wage bill this year again with a few released and potentially losing one of (if not the top) earners at the club in Sander.

Not saying we're going to be splashing the cash but to say we've not got two pennies to rub together is stretching it a bit.
 
If we still have Norwood and Fleck starting next season then I will not be happy. Both are too inconsistent and we need players who can perform in 9 games out of 10, not every other game like Norwood or 1 in 10 like Fleck.

We need a clear out of some of the old guard and can't keep relying on players that we've had in the starting line up for four seasons.

RND will replace Stevens.
Bogle will replace Baldock.
We need more centre backs to cover Robinson and Basham.
We need to replace Norwood and Fleck.
We need at least two more strikers as we can't keep relying on Billy, and we have no one else other than Brewster to score goals.

It's not a massive rebuild but I worry about what money there is as no one will buy the likes of Stevens, McBurnie or Fleck for a fee, and Berge is our only really big money asset, and his value has just dropped with our failure in the play offs, as another year has been ticked off his contract.

I'd take any offers for Norwood, Egan and Berge.
 
Yes a £9 million profit, after receiving £40 million in parachute payments and selling Ramsdale for £20 million

I think the parachute payments drop to about £25 million this year, so even more savage cuts will be needed.

Sheffield United eh
The only club who giving Premier League money to is actually a hindrance

United’s accounting year runs to 30 June. The Ramsdale money of c.£24m wasn’t, therefore, included in the most recent accounts which showed the profit of £9.5m.

In theory, therefore, the accounts to June 2022, should also look relatively healthy after a season in which we’ve had the first parachute payment, paid no transfer fees, received a big fee in for Ramsdale, and reduced the wage bill through performance-related salary cuts.

With another parachute payment - albeit reduced - we should still be able to be one of the most competitive clubs in this division, financially, next season.

That being said, we are, of course, the club that spent the next 20 years of our history pleading poverty and a ‘£3m debt’ after building ‘The New South Stand’ for £650,000…
 
United’s accounting year runs to 30 June. The Ramsdale money of c.£24m wasn’t, therefore, included in the most recent accounts which showed the profit of £9.5m.

In theory, therefore, the accounts to June 2022, should also look relatively healthy after a season in which we’ve had the first parachute payment, paid no transfer fees, received a big fee in for Ramsdale, and reduced the wage bill through performance-related salary cuts.

With another parachute payment - albeit reduced - we should still be able to be one of the most competitive clubs in this division, financially, next season.

That being said, we are, of course, the club that spent the next 20 years of our history pleading poverty and a ‘£3m debt’ after building ‘The New South Stand’ for £650,000…
How does the Ramsdale fee work in the accounts, as a lot of transfer fees are paid in installments these days.
 
How does the Ramsdale fee work in the accounts, as a lot of transfer fees are paid in installments these days.
I thought we insisted on £20m up front, wasn't that the reason for the delays at the time? With the rest coming as performance related add ons, which I suspect he's already hit a few. England cap, 20+ appearances for first team etc.

Or have I misremembered that?
 
I thought we insisted on £20m up front, wasn't that the reason for the delays at the time? With the rest coming as performance related add ons, which I suspect he's already hit a few. England cap, 20+ appearances for first team etc.

Or have I misremembered that?
Genuinely not sure.
 
Erm, you are aware we’ve just turned a profit in our accounts aren’t you?

Not many in this league can say that.
Erm, yes. You are also aware that our income is plummeting in the coming years due to relegation, and that the management have declared that we will be relying on free transfers and loans from here on?
 



I can see Berge staying unless the club want to sell him, a fully fit Bogle & Brewster makes us stronger straight away. We've had some desperate luck with injuries this season which has seriously impacted us.

Going forward, I wouldn't be too surprised to see Egan move on, which could see some fresh reinforcements in midfield which is needed.

I think we'll be at least top six again next season
 
I can see Berge staying unless the club want to sell him, a fully fit Bogle & Brewster makes us stronger straight away. We've had some desperate luck with injuries this season which has seriously impacted us.

Going forward, I wouldn't be too surprised to see Egan move on, which could see some fresh reinforcements in midfield which is needed.

I think we'll be at least top six again next season
Brewster is an interesting one- shite for most of his time with us, but showed definite potential pre injury. I'm not convinced either way, but let's hope so.

Though I suspect we're nearly potless, there's a good chance most of the division is extremely potless- so we may yet be the chosen destination for top loans / freebies.
 
Can see someone like Southampton coming in for ndiye, they are looking for young talented players rather than spending loads
 
If we kept everyone, and all the injured players were fit for the start of the season, it'd be an automatic promotion push for me. I think the players and manager with this system have shown that's what we could expect.

However, Gibbs-White will obviously be gone, and there will likely be offers for Berge, N'Diaye, Egan at least. So we won't keep everyone, and the replacements will be cheap.

It all comes down to this transfer window, which I have no optimism for whatsoever. That was our chance to bounce back and most of us have knows all season that it's now or never. It will probably be a good few years in the doldrums now.

Hopefully the board fork out some cash and prove me wrong.
 
The teams coming down will play a part too. I'd expect Norwich to be challenging for automatic promotion as they always are. Watford are a bit unknown with the hiring of a young English coach which is out of character for them, but with the strength of their squad and track record you'd expect them to challenge.

Then it's one of Burnley, Leeds & Everton. As much as I'd enjoy Leeds getting relegated after two seasons the same as we did, for the good of our chances next season I'd much prefer Burnley who will be in an absolute state.
 
No Berge, No MGW, possibly no Ndaiye, we'll struggle to stay in this League next year.
The bad times are coming, or should I say, the normal times are coming
Why? This squad has just got nicked at promotion, and you predict relegation??
I despair at negative attitude on here sometimes.
 
MGW Stays at wolves but struggles in the prem , “ Boss can I go back to the blades for the last half of the season “ sealing a place in the top 2 positions!!!!
 
Ultimately there's too many questions at this stage we just don't know the answer to and therefore it's impossible to say where we'll finish next season. Questions like, does Berge stay, who will be fit from Brewster, Bogle and McBurnie, will there be a takeover and if so in time for this summer transfer window. Berge staying or not is vital, if he goes then we'll need to spend the money on several new players, if he stays then most likely squad will still need new blood but with loans, frees and the odd buy under a million.

Berge needs to go early not late if we do sell and that never happens does it, it'll be a week from the end of the window!
 
Why? This squad has just got nicked at promotion, and you predict relegation??
I despair at negative attitude on here sometimes.

Relegation is extreme but next season it won’t be the same squad as this season will it

MGW
B.Davies
Hourihane

These will go back and with the new structure I don’t see any returning nor players of a similar stature being recruited

Uremovic is an oddity that I have no idea what will happen with

We have released
Didzy
Freeman
Mousset

On top I think it’s expected we will lose Berge, I’d be surprised if we don’t let Burke go

Not sure what’s happening with A.Davies can see him wanting to get 1st team football so I’d imagine he’s likely to move on.

Granted many of these aren’t starting 11 but they’re/were in and around the squad during their time here

That’s a lot of gaps to fill and the squad will be unrecognisable, not saying all of the above is bad but it certainly won’t be the same as what got to the play offs
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Brewster and McB will rip the championship to shreds next season.;)
 
How does the Ramsdale fee work in the accounts, as a lot of transfer fees are paid in installments these days.
It doesn’t matter how they pay, it’s the amount we sold him for that matters. Accounts look at the transaction and not the cash payments associated with the transaction.

Say we paid £13m and had a year out of him so his value in the books was around £10m, sold him for £20m (an example only) then we’ll have recorded a £10m profit on the sale and this will be reported in the accounts.
 



20 million reduction in income next season from
sky, that’s a massive chunk of money to save on salaries and player sales
 

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