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I'll chat to skid Darnell gay blade ,he's never encounted problems on our coach (shreds) there's been banter over the years both ways . honestly nobody gives a scubi .if you've got a problem then the problem might lay closer to home .
 

You seem to be fortunate to have never been discriminated against for just being who you are, for all the hard work in trying to fight for equal rights, being called all the names under the sun to finally have some sort of equality of life is massive for the LGBTQ community, so as a gay man I’m saying to you that sometimes going to the game is like stepping back in time, theres homophobic shouting/abuse at players, other fans etc, it happens, why should I have to feel uncomfortable going to a game because of it? Are you saying this is acceptable? can you not not accept that some of these small gestures, flags, scarves, rainbow laces help break down prejudices?

Is that too hard for your brain to comprehend that because you don’t hear it or your friends haven’t that it doesn’t happen or make people feel that way?

Have a chat to the rainbowblades group and ask why they were founded, I’m pretty sure you will be enlightened and you never know may evenyou wouldn't want to pour scorn on people's intelligence understand why these things are important.
Oh and my brains ok by the way ,you wouldn't want to pour scorn on someone's I q would you that would be discrimination
 
Oh and my brains ok by the way ,you wouldn't want to pour scorn on someone's I q would you that would be discrimination
Mate I think you've probably made your point enough now. If anyone agrees with you okay, I'm sure plenty don't but I don't think anyone's going to be won over and I don't think anyone's left wondering what your opinion is. Watch summat on telly or have a beer or summat instead.
 
Great to see our Club Shop catering for the new diverse fans we want to see at the Lane. Hope this makes them feel more welcomed into our Blades family 👍
Don’t like to tell you Rodders, but my mate is gay, and been going for the last 30 years, I’ll let him know he’s now included in the Blades family. UTB
 
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Where's the section for the Heteroflexible Pansexual Solo Polyamourous folk?

And why is there only Men, Women and Children sections? What about the other 70 genders?
 
Threads of this nature ought to be used break down barriers in communication, not create them.

I think the issue here is that from our stance point as straight individuals, we can't fully relate to the lived experiences of those from the LGBT+ community. Just in the same way that I can't cite firsthand experience of racial discrimination, gender discrimination or many other forms of injustice. I'm able to speak from a position of privilege and this may sound like lefty, woke bollocks to some - but it's more a recognition that I haven't walked through the same prejudices that others have faced, and so I can't simply suggest they 'get on with it'.

The equivalent would be true if a footy match were to be littered with abuse to others based on singing/comments chants against straight blokes, being white British, being of certain religions or having certain beliefs. Folk would feel less welcome then too.
 
I think these days more personal abuse in general starting to be called out. The stuff that Billy Sharp has had has been widely condemned.

Ultimately playing and watching it’s a passionate game and it will never lose that. If I was playing and somebody called me a cunt I’d find it funny. Once somebody comes after your family, race, sexuality or whatever then it becomes a different story in my opinion. That’s where football needs to grow up.
That's what gets me, Cxxt and all the other four letter disgusting expletives that you hear on TV, Supermarkets, Public Transport , Pubs , Sporting events and anywhere else you may wonder, " find funny". Yet let slip with any word mildly offensive and it's shock horror, get them locked up.
Watching old re runs of Sunday night at the Paladium and couldn't beleave there was a warning on " with language that may offend". Turned over to find In-betweeners on, not a thing or warning. Language was shocking. Just cannot work out why we accept awful, disgusting vile language as acceptable.
 
Right hear goes ,when football becomes completely sanatized and it's happening ,no chanting ,no fouling ,no heading , the need for covid passports (yes I'm vaxed ) Is the day I call it a day .football without edge isn't football

I’ve been on terraces of the Bundesliga and seen the ultras protest against homophobia. Their “edge”, atmosphere, whatever you call it, is probably 100 times greater than the sanitised bollocks over here. The noise is on a completely different level.
 
Threads of this nature ought to be used break down barriers in communication, not create them.

I think the issue here is that from our stance point as straight individuals, we can't fully relate to the lived experiences of those from the LGBT+ community. Just in the same way that I can't cite firsthand experience of racial discrimination, gender discrimination or many other forms of injustice. I'm able to speak from a position of privilege and this may sound like lefty, woke bollocks to some - but it's more a recognition that I haven't walked through the same prejudices that others have faced, and so I can't simply suggest they 'get on with it'.

The equivalent would be true if a footy match were to be littered with abuse to others based on singing/comments chants against straight blokes, being white British, being of certain religions or having certain beliefs. Folk would feel less welcome then too.

99% of people wouldn’t bat an eyelid at a rainbow scarf and just see it as a decent, kind gesture.
 
I don't suppose there's any chance of a White Pride scarf is there, while we're at it?

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To celebrate the diversity of all things culinary at the match? Thankfully, long gone are the days when people had to eat their potted meat sarnies with their heads buried inside their carrier bags to avoid the shame of being branded a 'tight wad' and other such derogatory terms of miserliness, now thankfully left behind in the 1970's.
Racist bread, there will be hell to pay!
 
Maybe because they are not genders just sexual identities.
Maybe you replied to the first sentence, not the 2nd sentence 🤷‍♂️

The first sentence is in direct reference to Rainbow Blades and sexual identities. The 2nd sentence is a different paragraph altogether asking a question about a different matter 😜
 
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It does make me laugh that in a stadium full of people buying SUFC kit to broadcast part of their personality or identity people have a issue with a minority doing the same but with a rainbow twist.

If people are so bothered it suggests deeper emotions to me.
 
I've joked in this thread, but seriously, if people are offended by United being more inclusive to the LGBT community, then there's no helping them.

I'm 37 and believe that this kind of bigotry will die out in the most part during my generation. The previous generation have struggled to come to terms with this, and also race to an extent.
As an example, my kids don't describe an Asian or African kid in their school by the colour of their skin. They just don't notice skin colour as the biggest differentiator.

There's a girl in my daughters class who lives with 2 women. My daughter has never told me that "X lives with 2 mums". They just don't notice shit like that anymore.

We've worked hard to get this shift in mentality.

True story...
A relative of mine is gay (male) and his uncle said to me - "As long as he's happy, i just find it weird. It's not normal!" :oops: :rolleyes: . This is what I mean by the previous generation, many, not all, still haven't come to terms with the fact that being Gay isn't a choice.
 
That's what gets me, Cxxt and all the other four letter disgusting expletives that you hear on TV, Supermarkets, Public Transport , Pubs , Sporting events and anywhere else you may wonder, " find funny". Yet let slip with any word mildly offensive and it's shock horror, get them locked up.
Watching old re runs of Sunday night at the Paladium and couldn't beleave there was a warning on " with language that may offend". Turned over to find In-betweeners on, not a thing or warning. Language was shocking. Just cannot work out why we accept awful, disgusting vile language as acceptable.
Because it’s down to an individual!s perception of what’s vile language and what isn’t. You may not like hearing or reading words like “cunt” or “fuck”, other people may not be concerned by them.

Most people don’t get as upset by words like cunt as they do about racial slurs. For example, I have called a black colleague a “fucking cheeky twat” when he was being cheeky about my choice of football team to support, and he has called me a “daft cunt” for being rude about Arsenal, yet I wouldn’t use racist words to him nor him to me, because we both find them offensive. We were always fine with swearing at each other though.

And for people saying that swearing shows a limited vocabulary, this isn’t true. Don’t take my word for it though.
 
I’ve been on terraces of the Bundesliga and seen the ultras protest against homophobia. Their “edge”, atmosphere, whatever you call it, is probably 100 times greater than the sanitised bollocks over here. The noise is on a completely different level.
I love this post mate. Proper Terrace Culture - a force for good, a force for change. Football fans being pro Gay Rights (for example) is not sanitising football. Quite the opposite it's invigorating football, energising it. Keep Politics In Football.....
 
Because it’s down to an individual!s perception of what’s vile language and what isn’t. You may not like hearing or reading words like “cunt” or “fuck”, other people may not be concerned by them.

Most people don’t get as upset by words like cunt as they do about racial slurs. For example, I have called a black colleague a “fucking cheeky twat” when he was being cheeky about my choice of football team to support, and he has called me a “daft cunt” for being rude about Arsenal, yet I wouldn’t use racist words to him nor him to me, because we both find them offensive. We were always fine with swearing at each other though.

And for people saying that swearing shows a limited vocabulary, this isn’t true. Don’t take my word for it though.

Because it’s down to an individual!s perception of what’s vile language and what isn’t. You may not like hearing or reading words like “cunt” or “fuck”, other people may not be concerned by them.

Most people don’t get as upset by words like cunt as they do about racial slurs. For example, I have called a black colleague a “fucking cheeky twat” when he was being cheeky about my choice of football team to support, and he has called me a “daft cunt” for being rude about Arsenal, yet I wouldn’t use racist words to him nor him to me, because we both find them offensive. We were always fine with swearing at each other though.

And for people saying that swearing shows a limited vocabulary, this isn’t true. Don’t take my word for it though.
Not for a second did I think it was down to a limited vocabulary. Just think it's shows a lack of respect of the situation or surroundings. You and your mate using that language , no problem, but in a public place , it's offensive and people should be aware that it offends people as much as any other language.
Just find it slightly amusing that some " who don't touch me not I'm choclate" words are taboo but any four letter expletives are there to be balled out anywhere anyplace.
 
I've joked in this thread, but seriously, if people are offended by United being more inclusive to the LGBT community, then there's no helping them.

I'm 37 and believe that this kind of bigotry will die out in the most part during my generation. The previous generation have struggled to come to terms with this, and also race to an extent.
As an example, my kids don't describe an Asian or African kid in their school by the colour of their skin. They just don't notice skin colour as the biggest differentiator.

There's a girl in my daughters class who lives with 2 women. My daughter has never told me that "X lives with 2 mums". They just don't notice shit like that anymore.

We've worked hard to get this shift in mentality.

True story...
A relative of mine is gay (male) and his uncle said to me - "As long as he's happy, i just find it weird. It's not normal!" :oops: :rolleyes: . This is what I mean by the previous generation, many, not all, still haven't come to terms with the fact that being Gay isn't a choice.

Totally agree but arent you now behind the times?
Treating everyone as equal, so we‘re all 1 family was the target during the 90’s.

However in recent years the new target is to recognise diversity and recognise each other’s differences, so we’re NOT all treat equally.
Theres also a push to recognise that “positive discrimination” is required and should be accepted to give underperforming groups a chance.
I agree with this too but only in certain cases and only for a limited period.
 
Threads of this nature ought to be used break down barriers in communication, not create them.

To be honest….using forums to discuss difficult/ controversial subjects is never the best method because it’s so easy to be misinterpreted.
In a forum it’s difficult to give context. You can’t read body language, tone of one’s voice etc etc.

I always try to see both sides of any arguement and am prone to a little fence sitting. I try to appreciate the nuances and not see things as simple black and white.
The problem is this style is in unfashionable. The current fashion (as seen on social media) is to have extreme polarised view points.
Our performances are never decent….they usually tend to be “brilliant…we’re going to win the league” or “worse ever…we’re getting relegated”
So just because I’m quite neutral and don’t slag off other view points… I‘ve been called racist, sexist, all the ists. My worse experiences were discussing Ched Evans on Mumsnet forum…many wanted Ched castrated…I dared to offer a slight defence to open up the debate and received abuse accusing me of being a rapist.

Learnt my lesson there ha ha…..difficult subjects should really be discussed face to face.
 

To be honest….using forums to discuss difficult/ controversial subjects is never the best method because it’s so easy to be misinterpreted.
In a forum it’s difficult to give context. You can’t read body language, tone of one’s voice etc etc.

I always try to see both sides of any arguement and am prone to a little fence sitting. I try to appreciate the nuances and not see things as simple black and white.
The problem is this style is in unfashionable. The current fashion (as seen on social media) is to have extreme polarised view points.
Our performances are never decent….they usually tend to be “brilliant…we’re going to win the league” or “worse ever…we’re getting relegated”
So just because I’m quite neutral and don’t slag off other view points… I‘ve been called racist, sexist, all the ists. My worse experiences were discussing Ched Evans on Mumsnet forum…many wanted Ched castrated…I dared to offer a slight defence to open up the debate and received abuse accusing me of being a rapist.

Learnt my lesson there ha ha…..difficult subjects should really be discussed face to face.
You went on Mumsnet (?) to argue that a bloke convicted of rape might not be a rapist.

How did you think that would end up?
 

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