Ched Evans interview

[JJ Sefton]

This one goes out to itsinyerblood , shabba!

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I've got that Friday feeling....

What’s the collective noun for multiple infractions?

 

[Dkc]

Ever used a sock as a wank rag and then put it on by mistake the next day? And not realised why one of your socks feels so crispy until after leaving the house? That's how I feel after reading the entirety of thread.

 

[itsinyerblood]

What’s wrong with sexual adventures involving other males?

Given your silence, I think we'll agree that this is what's referred to as Fake News.

 

[Bladesman]

Couple of organisations going under the radar here.

Firstly Sheffield City Council. It was their responsibility to name something after Jess Ennis after the Olympics in August 2012. Of course the ideal place would have been Don Valley Stadium which of course was earmarked for demolition in January 2013. In steps SUFC to bail the council out. What happens the club is criticised for offering their support while the Council removes itself from all the fuss and concentrates on raping the city of its title 'the greenest city in Europe'.

Secondly, North Wales Police Force. The young lady who spent some time with Ched at the Premier Inn went to the said police force to report a stolen handbag. North Wales police persuaded her that she ought to be crying rape. Now everyone is blamed, everyone is accused of not apologising while this particular police force like our council sits quietly removing itself from all the fallout.

Good luck Ched.

I hope they and the CPS feel good about themselves having pretty much destroyed two peoples lives. The girl now lives in fear of her new identity being exposed again for what was essentially a missing handbag and Ched lost the best part of his career along with carrying the stigma of what happened around with him. I would hope they both got some form of decent payout from this mess.

Never understood the abuse Jess Ennis has got to be honest and it will have been her team who will have pushed through the removal of her name on the stand. As someone rightly pointed out earlier in the thread the council should have done a better job at celebrating her acheivements. Don Valley money well spent....

Charlie Webster is the one who has gone hiding most since making herself look very foolish. A victim of sexual abuse herself, trying to raise awareness and in process throws the club she supports under the bus (when we hadn't even signed Ched). Then tops it all off with being pictured with convicted rapist Mike Tyson (who's attitude to women in general is disgusting) and wanted an autograph. Unsurprsingly her career has tanked somewhat since Ched got cleared and her hypocrisy was exposed during that car crash of an interview she did with Channel 4 news.

 

[stringer]

Charlie Webster is the one who has gone hiding most since making herself look very foolish. A victim of sexual abuse herself, trying to raise awareness and in process throws the club she supports under the bus (when we hadn't even signed Ched). Then tops it all off with being pictured with convicted rapist Mike Tyson (who's attitude to women in general is disgusting) and wanted an autograph. Unsurprsingly her career has tanked somewhat since Ched got cleared and her hypocrisy was exposed during that car crash of an interview she did with Channel 4 news.

Not so much 'gone hiding' or career tanking, as nearly died from malaria. And there was no picture with Tyson

 

[Bert]

Not so much 'gone hiding' or career tanking, as nearly died from malaria. And there was no picture with Tyson

That was in 2016 and she made a full recovery.

 

[Bladesman]

Not so much 'gone hiding' or career tanking, as nearly died from malaria. And there was no picture with Tyson

Sorry that is correct she wanted a photo with him and somehow forgot he was convicted rapist considering she was a BoxNation presenter at the time. That makes it better.

I know about her catching malaria and I wished her all the best at the time. It must have been awful for her as she was in a coma for sometime.

Although her career was well on the slide before then as she had hadn't done that much TV for about two years (mostly one off presenting jobs if her wiki is anything to go by). There was a time when she was a regular on Sky Sports News.

 

[bornablade]

I hope they and the CPS feel good about themselves having pretty much destroyed two peoples lives. The girl now lives in fear of her new identity being exposed again for what was essentially a missing handbag and Ched lost the best part of his career along with carrying the stigma of what happened around with him. I would hope they both got some form of decent payout from this mess.

Never understood the abuse Jess Ennis has got to be honest and it will have been her team who will have pushed through the removal of her name on the stand. As someone rightly pointed out earlier in the thread the council should have done a better job at celebrating her acheivements. Don Valley money well spent....

Charlie Webster is the one who has gone hiding most since making herself look very foolish. A victim of sexual abuse herself, trying to raise awareness and in process throws the club she supports under the bus (when we hadn't even signed Ched). Then tops it all off with being pictured with convicted rapist Mike Tyson (who's attitude to women in general is disgusting) and wanted an autograph. Unsurprsingly her career has tanked somewhat since Ched got cleared and her hypocrisy was exposed during that car crash of an interview she did with Channel 4 news.

Completely agree with regard to the unwarranted criticism that has been handed out to Jess Ennis.

I am so proud to be born a Blade and equally proud to be have been made in Sheffield. I am always pleased to hear or see good things on the news about our city. When she won the gold in 2012 and those TV pictures were beamed across the globe it was a proud moment for all those associated with Sheffield.

Not sure if it's a generational thing or those that are doing the criticising are not from Sheffield and therefore don't feel the same level of pride.

Whatever the motives I know that young lady has done more good for Sheffield than I'll ever achieve and probably more than the majority of posters on this forum.

 

[Wilderat Heart]

Ive just got back from work and in response to Wizardry no it wasn't a dig at you specifically and you're right about the decathlon and heptathlon being of little interest to many but in Jess' case the coverage of her before the event and after her success made her so well known that McCabe and company saw an opportunity to get useful publicity for the club and also to give McCabe the benefit of the doubt to praise a fellow Sheffielders achievements. when Daley Thompson was competing the nation got a lot more interested in the decathlon and Jess did the same for the heptathlon. My frustration is when yet again she is dragged into a debate I suspect she never wanted in the first place and her actual real achievements are questioned. She won Olympic Gold, barring injury had been the favourite for the previous Olympics and came close to defending her title after having a child. I for one am sad that she will probably never bring that child to a United game after the flak she had to take and clearly is still taking for events that left us all questioning our attitudes and having to think carefully about our responses. The statement that she had her name taken off the stand for publicity is frankly ridiculous, unlike perhaps some others involved in the debate about Ched coming back she neither needed or I suspect ever wanted to be part of this. Wizardry you mention the 1500 metres one of the best sporting events Ive ever seen live was at the Don Valley stadium Peter Elliott v Steve Cram in the mile at the time the fastest ever run by anyone in a British stadium. Athletics is best appreciated, like many other sports, live so you get some idea of the actual speeds, distances and jumps that athletes are capable of. We will never see that in this city again it does Sheffield no credit to have had those facilities and to have lost them. Jessica Ennis has done nothing but bring credit to this city and unlike her fellow Sheffield olympic great Seb Coe she never supported Chelsea.

 

[stringer]

That was in 2016 and she made a full recovery.

After nearly dying

 

[Davalon]

WTF

 

[Chali 2na]

Come on. In his retrial Ched admitted that he didn’t ever say one word to the woman prior to having sex with her. You don’t think there’s anything remotely shady about that?

I once had the pleasure of meeting a girl in Spain, I think she was Eastern European but I wouldn't know as we never said a word to eachother.

I hope you don't think I'm shady, as that was the crowning momemt in my sexual history to date!

 

[Chali 2na]

Your first comment is wrong. Now who's constructing a view based on a spurious lack of fact? Work harder Smythers, you'll reap the rewards in time.

You deserve nothing less than a reply in red ink (or it's internet equivalent). Left with nothing other than a need to score points, is that what this has come to? I expected better, you disappoint.

Sorry mate, I just find it hard to believe, based on your writing style, that you're such an illustrious writer.

 

[raul]

Looks like chucking everything into Popcorn futures is gonna pay out big time.

 

[Pierre's PC]

Looks like chucking everything into Popcorn futures is gonna pay out big time.

I fully expect Michael Jackson to make the odd appearance

 

[Sheffsteel]

I once had the pleasure of meeting a girl in Spain, I think she was Eastern European but I wouldn't know as we never said a word to eachother.

I hope you don't think I'm shady, as that was the crowning momemt in my sexual history to date!

That’s the problem.

As the girl couldn’t remember the events, everyone is playing detective trying to guess if a crime was committed.
However the basis of making that judgement is dependant on ones own experiences and morales.
Bring alcohol in to equation and the whole case becomes a mess.

I’ve heard so many views, ALL VALID, giving such extreme viewpoints.
I’ve always questioned how the evidence could be strong enough to prove guilt, so always thought the verdict was questionable.

I also had a friend, nice non agreessive lad, a bit of a charmer who went through a spell where he was addicted to 1 night stands.
He used to say to me that he deliberately looks for plain, very drunk girls at the end of the night. He was very successful but told me he’s had several embarrassing situations where the girl has woke up not remembering the night before and asking him to leave. He also admits that some times he couldn’t remember the night before either.

Some might think he was a sexual predator and risked committing rape but he says in the real world there are as many female sexual predators and he also says many girls he’s met fantacize about threesomes when drunk.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Sorry mate, I just find it hard to believe, based on your writing style, that you're such an illustrious writer.

Clearly, for yourself and local hack Danny04, you're puzzled. Here's a little insight, the constraints, or demands, of writing for a living are completely different to writing on the forum.

It's a pity disbelief caused you to question the truth of what I wrote.

 

[stringer]

Clearly, for yourself and local hack Danny04, you're puzzled. Here's a little insight, the constraints, or demands, of writing for a living are completely different to writing on the forum.

It's a pity disbelief caused you to question the truth of what I wrote.

True. On the forum, you can stick an @ before a person you’re talking about and it’ll alert them. But thanks for the insight into writing for a living, itsinyerblood! Much appreciated.

 

[itsinyerblood]

True. On the forum, you can stick an @ before a person you’re talking about and it’ll alert them. But thanks for the insight into writing for a living, itsinyerblood! Much appreciated.

Danny, you assume I was interested in alerting you.

It surprises me that anyone should question my past career, but perhaps that says more about a small minority of posters on the forum.

 

[stringer]

Danny, you assume I was interested in alerting you.

It surprises me that anyone should question my pasta career, but perhaps that says more about a small minority of posters on the forum.

True, much better to indirectly gossip like schoolkids right?
Where are the links to your esteemed publications?

 

[itsinyerblood]

True, much better to indirectly gossip like schoolkids right?
Where are the links to your esteemed publications?

And that's the best alternative you can come up with? Says volumes about The Star and it's methodology, modern journalism uh?

 

[stringer]

And that's the best alternative you can come up with? Says volumes about The Star and it's methodology, modern journalism uh?

As a very wise man once told me, the constraints, or demands, of writing for a living are completely different to writing on the forum.
Where are the links to your esteemed publications?

 

[Gavlar]

Couple of thoughts on Ched the footballer, which annoyingly is the part of him that often gets overlooked.

When we had Ched in the championship the first time he was poor, or at best bang average. He was also injured a lot.
We spent a lot of money on him at the time and he looked like a huge waste. Then he was sensational in league 1 and looked
a totally different player. I was gutted we lost him at the time and it totally ruined our Promotion.

Since his return to Pro-football, he started brightly in league 1 with Chesterfield, then again lost form, and got injured.
He looked poor at the end of the season and didn't score a goal for months.

I was annoyed we re-signed him as he looked like a totally different player than we lost the first time and I felt and still feel
that there were better options out there, especially as we already had Billy and Clarke who are similar players and of a similar stage
of their career.

This season so far has proved to me that he wasn't a good signing. He hasn't had a decent season in the championship
for over 10 years which was when he was at Norwich. He seems very injury prone still, and maybe his body is not up to the demands of the job anymore?

I believe in second chances and would be over the moon if he came good, but I just can't believe it will happen. He seems a shadow
of his former self.

As for Ched the human being, whether he did or didn't commit rape is something none of us will never know, regardless of both the original verdit and subsequent acquittal, but legally he is free to continue
working as a pro footballer, for me though I don't think he is good enough for the blades anymore.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Couple of thoughts on Ched the footballer, which annoyingly is the part of him that often gets overlooked.

When we had Ched in the championship the first time he was poor, or at best bang average. He was also injured a lot.
We spent a lot of money on him at the time and he looked like a huge waste. Then he was sensational in league 1 and looked
a totally different player. I was gutted we lost him at the time and it totally ruined our Promotion.

Since his return to Pro-football, he started brightly in league 1 with Chesterfield, then again lost form, and got injured.
He looked poor at the end of the season and didn't score a goal for months.

I was annoyed we re-signed him as he looked like a totally different player than we lost the first time and I felt and still feel
that there were better options out there, especially as we already had Billy and Clarke who are similar players and of a similar stage
of their career.

This season so far has proved to me that he wasn't a good signing. He hasn't had a decent season in the championship
for over 10 years which was when he was at Norwich. He seems very injury prone still, and maybe his body is not up to the demands of the job anymore?

I believe in second chances and would be over the moon if he came good, but I just can't believe it will happen. He seems a shadow
of his former self.

As for Ched the human being, whether he did or didn't commit rape is something none of us will never know, regardless of both the original verdit and subsequent acquittal, but legally he is free to continue
working as a pro footballer, for me though I don't think he is good enough for the blades anymore.

Fair post that.
Tend to agree but Wilders record suggest he deserves that we trust his judgement.

I really believe the last chance saloon is the Summer pre season training.
There’s no excuses, surely Ched should be firing on all cylinders by the start of the next season.
If he doesn’t impress in pre-season then I expect Wilder to make a decision to release him.

 

[Gavlar]

Fair post that.
Tend to agree but Wilders record suggest he deserves that we trust his judgement.

I really believe the last chance saloon is the Summer pre season training.
There’s no excuses, surely Ched should be firing on all cylinders by the start of the next season.
If he doesn’t impress in pre-season then I expect Wilder to make a decision to release him.

Totally agree that Wilder deserves our trust. Every manager will have his good and bad signings, maybe Ched will come good, maybe not.

But he has had 2 pre-seasons in the last 2 years and hasn't managed to recapture anything like his old form, maybe this ship has sailed?

Every time he has played this season he has looked poor for me, time will tell if he can have a return to form/fitness. At the moment we are pushing
to get into the Premier league though, is Ched really a player likely to make an impact at this level of football?

At the moment it looks like a Lazarus like return is needed, but as they say its a funny old game........

 

[itsinyerblood]

As a very wise man once told me, the constraints, or demands, of writing for a living are completely different to writing on the forum.
Where are the links to your esteemed publications?

So, you still question me? I wish I could say I was disappointed with you, but that point has been long passed. Normally I don't share my name, and I'm not about to break that habit on this occasion. Permission to continue with your youthful cynicism Daniel.

 

[stringer]

So, you still question me? I wish I could say I was disappointed with you, but that point has been long passed. Normally I don't share my name, and I'm not about to break that habit on this occasion. Permission to continue with your youthful cynicism Daniel.

Hard to prove a negative, isn’t it?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Hard to prove a negative, isn’t it?

This, Daniel, is the problem. Continuing to ask me to validate your cynicism won't inform you, all it will do is heighten your already feeble attempts at journalistic zeal. Perhaps you should start with ensuring that any piece about local football grounds has an accompanying photo of said ground, rather than one of an unrelated ground. You'd think that a local 'journalist', with supposedly local knowledge, would ensure this would never happen. Ring a bell Dan?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Some might think he was a sexual predator and risked committing rape but he says in the real world there are as many female sexual predators and he also says many girls he’s met fantacize about threesomes when drunk.

Isn't what you've described the definition of being a sexual predator? From what you say, he wasn't risking committing rape, he was risking being hauled before the courts because he raped women. It really doesn't matter if there are also female predators, that's not much of a defence.
There is an underlying acceptance of rape in society, provided the woman is drunk/promiscuous/dressed scantily/etc etc. We've allowed an overlap of sexual freedom with rape to create a "grey area" which really isn't grey at all. I can understand what gets the feministas in a tizz.