Ched Evans interview

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WalthamstowBlade said:
Can you honestly say that you've never done what Ched did that night?
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Enter a room where your mate's shagging a drunk bird without her even knowing you were around and then have a go on her before sneaking out of the back door to avoid being seen? Hmmm, let me think......
 
wizadry said:
You made some good points but I keep seeing this above and I say this with no hindsight whatsoever because the answer to your second paragraph is answered by yourself in your first taking her family allegiance out of it because none of their names are on the stand.

Hardly anybody would’ve batted an eyelid had she said no and they’d have named the stand after someone who every Blade recognises. Let’s be honest, Athletics isn’t the most popular sport amongst football fans and there were far more deserving people to do with the club that the stand could and should’ve been named after. As I say Dav, this isn’t hindsight.
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They wouldn't have named it after anyone mate. It would have had some tinpot company sponsoring it.

My point about her agreeing is that why wouldn't she when some of her family thought it was great and she's a local girl.

I remain convinced that a number of our fans, whilst not remotely bothered that her name wasn't on the stand, would still have called her out as above herself if it had been known she'd refused.

I don't get why some are now criticising her for agreeing to it though.

FWIW I thought it was needless and a bit cheap on our part at the time despite my respect and admiration for her as an athlete, and as I understand as a person.
 
Ricky said:
Simon Jordan said that if he was Kevin McCabe he would have stripped Jessica Ennis' name off the stand as soon as she piped up and contributed hugely to putting the club in the position it was.

I couldn't agree more and it still winds me up thinking about it.

That we named a stand after her in the first place was totally pathetic, let alone generous and unnecessary. To then leave her name on it after she threw it back in our face was so pitifully weak and a total insult to ourselves. We did ourselves a huge disservice.

The silence from Ennis since he was found not guilty has been deafening.

Same goes for all the ignorant attention seeking preaching fuckwits who reported it so unfairly and said such vile, damaging things.
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This.

UTB
 
itsinyerblood said:
In one fell swoop you've undermined your own argument. My posts are rarely in red, you happen to be the exception, so less of the over-egging and stick to the facts, it'll help both of us.

As for the remainder of your comments, sticks and stones etc etc. It might explain why I was paid to contribute towards The Observer, American Vogue, The New York Times, The Face, Arena, and countless other publications of note. They clearly had no such problem with my contributions, so quite probably any perceived problem is yours and yours alone.
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I don't believe you were paid to write for all those publications.

By the way, your posts are still in red. :)
 
Chali 2na said:
I don't believe you were paid to write for all those publications.

By the way, your posts are still in red. :)
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Your first comment is wrong. Now who's constructing a view based on a spurious lack of fact? Work harder Smythers, you'll reap the rewards in time.

You deserve nothing less than a reply in red ink (or it's internet equivalent). Left with nothing other than a need to score points, is that what this has come to? I expected better, you disappoint.
 
Chali 2na said:
1.)Based on the coverage of the incident, I don't think the actions of any of the 3 people involved were immoral or wrong, and as a result I wont make any assumptions about their character.
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Come on. In his retrial Ched admitted that he didn’t ever say one word to the woman prior to having sex with her. You don’t think there’s anything remotely shady about that?
 
Highbury_Blade said:
What’s wrong with sexual adventures involving other males?
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Nothing as far as I know, can you point out where I suggested it was wrong? Why, are you starting a group for fledgling analists? My advice, slowly to begin with, then, as your back bottom stretches, you may consider what's known as bare-back. Good luck anyway, somehow the idea seems completely in keeping. ;)
 



itsinyerblood said:
No, if memory serves me well, it's from my blog and the occasional advice I offer gratis. Men and women are curious and sometimes need instruction how to avoid the brutal implications of doing this in an amateurish manner.
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I think Ms Crab loves my amateurish manner. She laughs enough at my attempts anyway..................
 
itsinyerblood said:
Nothing as far as I know, can you point out where I suggested it was wrong? Why, are you starting a group for fledgling analists? My advice, slowly to begin with, then, as your back bottom stretches, you may consider what's known as bare-back. Good luck anyway, somehow the idea seems completely in keeping. ;)
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You’re offering me advice on Anal? Me!? You can’t have been round here for long....
 
Hamburg Blade said:
FFS, another baseless accusation that the girl lied. What is it with people who have it fixed in their head that going through a rape trial is the easy option? She was apparently a right little strumpet which is apparently what was put before the appeal trial to prove Evans couldn't possibly have raped her - yet she was too embarrassed to admit that doing a second bloke on a night was so incredibly shameful to her, despite the fact that shagging one bloke she'd just met on a one night stand was already established, that she'd rather lie to the police and let the CPS prosecute someone she knew was innocent in her name. Can you not see how daft that sounds? And how is going through a rape trial with a famous footballer not "washing her dirty washing in public"???
The logic beggars belief.

I don't think there will be any retribution aimed at the authorities on this. If you'd followed the case in detail you'd understand the reasons for bringing it to trial; there only has to be a case to answer, it's not wrong to bring something to trial just because it ends in an aquital. There was no incompetency. The "new evidence" was controversial to say the least and had been rejected a number of times. The Police and CPS are not responsible for the way the media and certain prominent people use a
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Hamburg Blade said:
FFS, another baseless accusation that the girl lied. What is it with people who have it fixed in their head that going through a rape trial is the easy option? She was apparently a right little strumpet which is apparently what was put before the appeal trial to prove Evans couldn't possibly have raped her - yet she was too embarrassed to admit that doing a second bloke on a night was so incredibly shameful to her, despite the fact that shagging one bloke she'd just met on a one night stand was already established, that she'd rather lie to the police and let the CPS prosecute someone she knew was innocent in her name. Can you not see how daft that sounds? And how is going through a rape trial with a famous footballer not "washing her dirty washing in public"???
The logic beggars belief.

I don't think there will be any retribution aimed at the authorities on this. If you'd followed the case in detail you'd understand the reasons for bringing it to trial; there only has to be a case to answer, it's not wrong to bring something to trial just because it ends in an aquital. There was no incompetency. The "new evidence" was controversial to say the least and had been rejected a number of times. The Police and CPS are not responsible for the way the media and certain prominent people use a case to further their own agendas.
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Wanker
 



Chali 2na said:
In post #109, you mentioned their salary which created a distinction between them and less paid, less fit people.

In post #132 you claimed "fit young sportsmen and above average incomes does impact on their behaviour and attitudes towards women in general."

The implication, to any reasonable person reading is clear.



Why would they think consensual sex have damaging effects on their careers? They obviously didn't have the benifit of hindsight like you.



Again, you're casting aspersions about their attitude, entitlement, behaviour and social sophistication but what specifically about a drunken, consensual threesome evidences these assumptions?



These things have only appeared to you: I don't know how you can make such an assumption without knowing them or being there.



That is all conjecture - you've made multiple negative assumptions about the personalities of these men with nothing to back it up.
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You've only got to look at post #151 to see his well-balanced opinions...
 
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