CONFIRMED Che Adams

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I don't think either will be playing on Saturday, or Freeman.

I don't think they should be out on the piss at 0330 in mid week, whether there's training the next day or not. The season kicks off 4 days later, the manager has made it clear, he will not accept anything less than 100% commitment to the cause. The supporters have watched half hearted performances for long enough, if this is the level of professionalism they have at the start of the season, I can't see any of them being here by September.

In Adams case, he needs to be gone sooner rather than later while his stocks still high. Sadly I wouldn't be surprised to see him back at Ilkeston in three years.
 
Ricky said:
Take it you didn't see him play last season then?

No one will pay £3.5m. Even in today's market.

This is a rare case where we can't risk pricing out potential buyers. We need the money much, much more than we need him. That doesn't mean we should accept the first offer though, and we haven't.
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Yes I did see him play he managed 11 edit league goals as a teenager in a piss poor team under a fuckin clueless manager.In today's transfer market 3.5 mill is nothing especially for a young English striker with bags of potential, weather or not he fulfills that potential remains to be seen. I personally dont think he will he seems a bit lacking between the ears by all accounts, therefore I am not totally against the sale on one hand I'll be sorry to see the back of a player with so much potential and on the other if the club plays it right and gets decent money to invest in the much needed strengthening of the team, it would to me business well done.
 
David Lee's first touch said:
I personally dont think he will he seems a bit lacking between the ears by all accounts, therefore I am not totally against the sale on one hand I'll be sorry to see the back of a player with so much potential ...
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I may be wrong but I get that impression as well. Sounds like he's possibly a bit easily led by some of the others. If I was his dad I'd be in there and trying to steer him clear of that shit and hoping to see my boy achieve his full potential. Not sure what help he's getting from his own parents - they certainly gave him an interesting name combination to deal with.

It is all about potential with Che, could go well or could go Jordan Slew. My gut feeling is if we can get a good price we should sell.
 
WincobankBlade said:
I may be wrong but I get that impression as well. Sounds like he's possibly a bit easily led by some of the others. If I was his dad I'd be in there and trying to steer him clear of that shit and hoping to see my boy achieve his full potential. Not sure what help he's getting from his own parents - they certainly gave him an interesting name combination to deal with.

It is all about potential with Che, could go well or could go Jordan Slew. My gut feeling is if we can get a good price we should sell.
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I thought he lost his dad about a year ago, it would explain a few things if that's what happened, could anyone confirm?
 
madeinsheffield said:
I thought he lost his dad about a year ago, it would explain a few things if that's what happened, could anyone confirm?
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Hadn't heard owt on that, though it could explain. Just done a search and not found anything other than his dad is Antiguan.
 
Yes Che lost his dad round last Christmas think at the time he wasn't in the team because of an incident of non footballing matters
 
alcoblade said:
Surely those doing the bidding decide on that, not Internet bulletin board commentators? :)

UTB
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True. But if strikers in the championship are going for £10m+, which they seem to be, then if Che is successful at that level, he'll be worth the same.
£3.5m for a player that could be worth £10m in two seasons doesn't seem that outrageous.
 
BushBlade said:
True. But if strikers in the championship are going for £10m+, which they seem to be, then if Che is successful at that level, he'll be worth the same.
£3.5m for a player that could be worth £10m in two seasons doesn't seem that outrageous.
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But whatever opinion we hold, the only relevant fact is what other clubs have bid. We'd clearly sell for £5m, and he's still here - so nobody has offered that amount.

Even allowing for margin of error, do you think he'd still be here if we'd been offered £3m?

Overall, there's a tendency to grossly inflate the value of young players, who regularly go on to oblivion after being bigged up by eager supporters.

McCormack is a prolific championship striker, proved over numerous years. He could well unlock the door tho hundreds of millions of pounds of premiership money. It's entirely different in my opinion.

UTB
 
Wednesday in a non-game week is effectively a weekend day for a footballer, almost like a Saturday you could say?

It's actually kind of hilarious watching a bunch of grown men (who almost certainly get arseholed every Saturday, mainly because they can't do it to the same extent during the working week - and I include myself in the descriptor), slag off a bunch of young lads for doing exactly the same thing!

Seriously, if this were Friday night I'd have an issue, but midweek? Who gives a fuck?
 
Flawed said:
Wednesday in a non-game week is effectively a weekend day for a footballer, almost like a Saturday you could say?

It's actually kind of hilarious watching a bunch of grown men (who almost certainly get arseholed every Saturday, mainly because they can't do it to the same extent during the working week - and I include myself in the descriptor), slag off a bunch of young lads for doing exactly the same thing!

Seriously, if this were Friday night I'd have an issue, but midweek? Who gives a fuck?
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So I guess you believe that the GB Olympic team have been training hard 6 days a week then having a session and staying up til 5 am to wind down on the 7th?

What's more, those grown men to whom you refer, aren't professional athletes. Those grown men work in mundane jobs working forty hours for a living wage to provide as well as they can for themselves and their family. Their ability to do so, rarely depend on physical fitness, so big deal, they can get pissed whenever they like.
If the young lads want to do 'exactly the same thing', then let them stand shoulder to shoulder on the factory floor, or sit opposite in the call centre and let them take home the same wage packet.

Not likely, so whilst these young lads are getting paid ten times the salary, for one tenth of the hours, in the best job in the world, perhaps they should stop and take stock of their life. Then hopefully they would appreciate their responsibilities, to the club, to the fans but mostly to themselves, to give absolutely everything to be the very best that they can be and realise their true potential.

If they want to get hammered and stay up all night, then do it in the summer or go play elsewhere:mad:
 

alcoblade said:
But whatever opinion we hold, the only relevant fact is what other clubs have bid. We'd clearly sell for £5m, and he's still here - so nobody has offered that amount.

Even allowing for margin of error, do you think he'd still be here if we'd been offered £3m?

Overall, there's a tendency to grossly inflate the value of young players, who regularly go on to oblivion after being bigged up by eager supporters.

McCormack is a prolific championship striker, proved over numerous years. He could well unlock the door tho hundreds of millions of pounds of premiership money. It's entirely different in my opinion.

UTB
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Re McCormack, I'm not saying Che is the same as McCormack. I'm saying that if a championship side are looking to buy him, they believe he has the potential to be a good championship forward, and if he fulfills that potential, he'll be worth as much as other good championship forwards like Dwight Gayle, Andre Grey, Jordan Rhodes.

However, I realise that if only a couple of clubs are interested and neither are prepared to pay £3.5m, then we won't get it.
 
BushBlade said:
I'm saying that if a championship side are looking to buy him, they believe he has the potential to be a good championship forward, and if he fulfills that potential, he'll be worth as much as other good championship forwards like Dwight Gayle, Andre Grey, Jordan Rhodes.

However, I realise that if only a couple of clubs are interested and neither are prepared to pay £3.5m, then we won't get it.
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The three you mention - Gayle, Grey and Rhodes have all fulfilled their potential (Gayle at PL level). Che has potential, nothing more.
 
grafikhaus said:
The three you mention - Gayle, Grey and Rhodes have all fulfilled their potential (Gayle at PL level). Che has potential, nothing more.
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That's what I keep saying FFS. If he was as good as them he'd be worth the same.
 
Andy Giddings should be chatting to Wilder as we speak, be interesting to see if he says anything about it.
 
S5Blade said:
Looking forward to the meltdown, got my popcorn and panda pops ready for an afternoon of Che Adams becoming Lionel Messi-Esque and us now been relegation favourites.
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Yes, I find it hard to understand why some would want to keep an inconsistent player. To get promotion we need consistent players
 
I worry that even if che goes for 2m- the asking price for the final few players we need will shoot up with 1 day left before the season starts.
That's if teams are willing to lose influential players this close to the start of the season at all. Ha, what idiots would do that.
If Wilder brings in his three main targets off the back of this il be chuffed, Im just a glass half empty kindda guy right now.
 
We have to do what is better for the club right now to get out of this league. If it's 2 million then fine. It means it will fund a couple of good players for this league.Che has talent, but aint proven. We need good proven league one players to get out. Then it's over to Mr macabe to come up with the goods because he said in the supporters meeting that we could go for higher quality of players if we got in the championship and the budget would go up significantly. But we have to get out of this league 1 first.
 

Also apparently, Che does have quite a ego , and moaned about having to train in the afternoon in Spain. So I would get rid and take the money now, while we still can
 
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