mattbianco1
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Overall that is the best we have played all season. We played differently. Played with a bit of pace. Pass and move football.
Chappel and Harriott both played well from what I remember
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Overall that is the best we have played all season. We played differently. Played with a bit of pace. Pass and move football.
Chappel and Harriott both played well from what I remember
sheffielder
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I thought Harriott had a very good game. He could easily do the job of what Doyle is mean't to be doing, sitting infront of the back 4.
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Tel Kennedy also got a game at Donny but hasn't been seen since!
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He'd only played 5 games before Wilson arrived - he was hardly a fixture in the side.
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I agree with your first sentence but Chappell just didn't figure in any of it. He was anonymous. That's why you can't remember what he did - he did nothing!
Anyway I think we've done this one as far as it'll go, haven't we? For the record, I wish him well if he plays and hope he scores two and makes three more. If he does, however, it won't be because he is young!
Well the Burton manager didn't give him a start in aleague game ion over a month and the Torquay manager didn't think he was good enough to play for 90 minutes. I draw the following conclusions from that:
1. The Burton manager did not think he was good enough to start in a team challenging at the top of the 4th Division
2. The Torquay manager thought he was good enough for a team struggling at the bottom of the 4th division but not enough to play the whole game.
I mean, really, if the best you can do to suggest Chappell is a good player is to say he got regular games at a team that could be in the conference next year, I really despair. He really isn't very good.
mattbianco1
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Yeah, i remember saying that at the time. Very tenacious midfielder with pace and a decent pass... Where's he disappeared to? Doesn't even make the bench
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Again.. Good point. This is what I mean when I say Wilson doesn't put any trust in his youth players.
sheffielder
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How many times have you seen him play to make that judgement. I hope it's not just because he disappointed you at one of these parties.
sheffielder
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Struggling on loan at some conference team if I remember. I won't judge a player until I see him in the 1st team as some players will only ever play to the same level as their team mates. He might do well with good players round him.
(bit like Chappell could)
mattbianco1
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Pinchy - for the record I haven't said he's good because he's young. I merely said DW never gave youth a chance. Morgan clearly sees something in Chappel as his first move was to bring him back.
Darren -I bet Man City fans were saying the same with Joe Hart when he played lesst than 10 times for Tranmere and again for Blackpool after signing him from Shrewsbury where he featured in nearly every game (if not all of them)
If we don't give them a chance we'll never know.
De Girolamo - From what people say on here you'd expect he's better than Messi. DW clearly didn't think so
Darren -I bet Man City fans were saying the same with Joe Hart when he played lesst than 10 times for Tranmere and again for Blackpool after signing him from Shrewsbury where he featured in nearly every game (if not all of them)
If we don't give them a chance we'll never know.
De Girolamo - From what people say on here you'd expect he's better than Messi. DW clearly didn't think so
What are you on about?
I reckon we should sign this guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Burton_(footballer_born_1991)
Yes, he's spent the last 4 years playing for Marine in the Northern Premier League, but he's young and as I have never seen him play, it would be completely wrong to judge his abilities on his past record.
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I'd hardly call 4 starts established.
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That's my view, our wingers this season have been so poor it makes you want to weep.
I would not judge Chapell on 20 minutes versus Hartlepool given the superb service he got on that wonderful surface.
This is merely a bench option. He is a much much better player than Tonne who's gone anyway. His final ball is the big question mark against him and of course it's a big step up but Morgan knows more about Chapell than any of us on here.
We may well need these further options unless there is a huge improvement from the ones that have turned out in the last 6 games that I've had the displeasure to view.
Maybe they were, but for every good player you can name who started their career slowly, there are hundreds more who started as mediocre players and remained mediocre players throughout their careers.
I don't know why I bother sometimes: Chappell has been at the club as a pro for 3 years now and no-one has seen fit to start him in a league game. That means one of two things (1) All those managers were idiots (as was the Burton manager) who couldn't see a good player when he was under their noses or (2) Chappell is just not very good.
You pays your money...
Wards
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But this guy hasn't been given a pro contract at a professional club before. The coaching staff clearly know enough to warrant giving him that contract.
I'm really not sure what argument you're trying to make.
sheffielder
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Right, because there is no difference is there?
Player 1
Given new contract by Danny Wilson and recalled by the new manager Chris Morgan who has had him in the u21's for the last 2 years. Has played for ourselves, Burton and Torquay this season in the league.
Player 2
Plays for Marine in the Northern Premier League. Only league experience was with Accrington Stanley where he played 2 games before joining Marine in a big fucking money move.
Let me think who might be the better option
super_pig
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we can't rate any of these young players based upon ten minute cameos at the end of games (usually when we are losing).. personally i'd chuck the lot in.. on the premise that they can't be any worse than doyle, mcmahon, robson, kitson and flynn
mattbianco1
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OK then, we'll class Maguire as forced then shall we due to Morgan being injured.
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can you get the time off mateHmm, interesting logic.
I didn't play in the last 4 home games when we failed to score. Would it be any worse if they gave me a game
mattbianco1
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We need to release him then. He's wank
super_pig
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none of our younger players would have 'ever' made it through without injuries or suspensions.. the kyles and lowton.. we just don't blood new players unless it is absolutely desperate .. then they suddenly have all the experience they didn't have before. (see Kennedy)
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Jesus, i expected this thread to get about three replies. Only posted it to pass on the info....
mattbianco1
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It baffles me it really does.
We have one of the best academy's in the country as proved by the sale of Walker, Naughton, Tonge, Jagielka, Lowton, Woodhouse, S. Quinn, W. Quinn
Yet of late we are hearing the next big ones coming through Ironside, McFadzean (being the main two), De Girolamo, Kennedy, Whitehouse, Chappel, Harriott aren't getting anywhere near the game time they deserve.
They should be getting 15 minutes at the end of games. If DW told me to get ready in stoppage time, i'd tell him to bollocks.
Any manager in fact
super_pig
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the thing that made me lost respect for Danny Wilson actually was that for the Donny game we had no centre backs. this was a big game and he put in Kennedy for his first game for this match, whereas previously he 'wasn't experienced enough'.. he does well and inexplicably is benched for the next game.. ridiculous
mattbianco1
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and then McMahon gets suspended so he puts a LB at RB.. Come on Danny, it's not Champ Manager !
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Kennedy had quite a tough afternoon actually. I just don't feel he has the physique to play centre back in L1, he isn't 6 foot tall and I think he'd get out-battled frequently. Personally I think centre back is the hardest position for a youngster to break through. Obviously Maguire had what it takes.
I'd like to see Kennedy developed as a right back because I think we are weak there. Just a personal view.
super_pig
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i don't think Harry made his debut on 1 days notice against the top team in the division either.. can't remember.. all i'm saying is that he should be given a run of games
ps fabio cannavaro was 5'10"
Jim Chimmerney
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Yep, Kyle N only got in because of Sun Jihai's mad lunge and red card if memory serves and there was no-one else left.
It's always a tricky one, especially if you're higher up the leagues but there really is no excuse now with the budget situation as it is. But, you also have to trust the judgment of the staff who see them a damn sight more than we do.
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Oh no I'm not criticising Tel's approach, he did some good things on the day and had the balls to get stuck in at short notice.
There aren't many Cannaveros and they don't play at L1 level. I wish we could unearth someone like him. Doubt Wilson would have known what to do with him though !
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