CONFIRMED Calvert-Lewin sold to Everton

[Jonboy60]

As we know, Everton won't transfer £1m to our bank account, it's be half that at best with the rest dependant on appearances, goals, playing for England, becoming world player of the year etc etc.

Heard £650.000, with add ons. Supposed Itk on f/b

 

[wizadry]

I agree with your post Wizadry, but it seems like CW does rate the player, although I acknowledge that he can't really say otherwise and I suppose towing the party line for the sake of the club, players and harmony is a given as far as McCabe is concerned.


http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk...-to-see-kids-coveted-by-other-clubs-1-7998757


Reading that article, I would guess Adams wont be far behind DCL out the door either

My guess is that Wilder doesn't rate him as high as a £1m player, I could be wrong and I'll be interested to see what he says on the matter if it comes to fruition.

If Adams goes as well then that's two more players we'll need more than what we needed lets say a couple of days ago. CW will certainly be earning his money.

 

[Fraggle Blade]

I've watched him for a few years Woody and I rate him,technically very good and a good athlete also 6 ft 2
needs time to develop as although he's a big lad he is still a bit lightweight ( he will fill out). disappointing to lose him as he in my opinion is going to be a good player,
Everton seem to have a good scouting network in south Yorkshire as they picked up John Stones as well who is going to be sold again for big money ( add Jag, s to the other two). we are sitting ducks while we are in this division, premier clubs will cherries pick our good young players Good job Ramsdale is under contract as he is on the Premier shopping list.
it's important rams is involved with the 1st team as his agent would whisk him away to a premiership team if he wasn't.while in this division as I stated our young players
are

Not quite sure how Ramsdale being under contract is going to help keep him.........DCL has also just recently signed a long contract here

 

[alcoblade]

Hugely disappointed with this if true. Regular watchers of the youth teams will know he has outstanding potential.

Diego De Juve type potential?

UTB

 

[Barney]

Diego De Juve type potential?

UTB

Ironside, Ironside...

 

[alcoblade]

My guess is that Wilder doesn't rate him as high as a £1m player, I could be wrong and I'll be interested to see what he says on the matter if it comes to fruition.

If Adams goes as well then that's two more players we'll need more than what we needed lets say a couple of days ago. CW will certainly be earning his money.

I dread to think we were planning on using DCL much next season, so I'm not sure an outright replacement is needed.

UTB

 

[Smirth]

Both Adams and DCL will be sold this summer.

We'll reinvest perhaps a bit of it in re-signing another academy graduate to take our spend on players which have come through our academy to around the £3 million mark. Absolute lunacy.

 

[alcoblade]

Well I hope we get a good fee and reinvest it but anyone writing DCL off doesn't really know what they're talking about. We've seen nowhere near enough of him at first team level to write him off. He's done well in the U21s, he's scored goals at Northampton, and is clearly someone who'll develop into a good all round athlete, he's a natural footballer from a physical point of view. And I doubt a club like Everton would want him if he's 'wank'.

Agreed. Youve appraised Jordan Skew perfectly. Oh wait.....

But seriously, he's too young to be written off, and shown too little to get worked up about on exit.

As ever, the more pressing point is how this filters through to recruitment. Historically it's here where we go wrong.

UTB

 

[nopigfansintown]

Diego De Juve type potential?

UTB

So did Walker, Maguire and Messi. If it was three million and a 20% sell on clause I'd say Oh well, needs must. It seems like the fee is far from that.

 

[alcoblade]

rather sell Mcnulty and and


So did Walker, Maguire and Messi. If it was three million and a 20% sell on clause I'd say Oh well needs must. It seems like the fee is far from that.

I can say with 100 percent certainty that it was obvious we were selling quality with Walker and Maguire. We are selling raw potential with DCL, with no impact on imminent first team fortunes. The situation is wholly different.

We've got a perfect track record in similar sales, I reckon.


UTB

 

[Cyprus Blade]

Your plan falls down here because it optimistically pre-supposes that the proceeds would be given to Tufty to purchase some decent players for the squad ........

Of course, you are right. Silly me.

 

[nopigfansintown]

I can say with 100 percent certainty that it was obvious we were selling quality with Walker and Maguire. We are selling raw potential with DCL, with no impact on imminent first team fortunes. The situation is wholly different.


UTB

Well he was outstanding at academy level and has done really well in his first loan spell in a very physical league. I'd expect it to take a couple of years for him to establish himself at first team level, which is why I'd cash in for the right deal (we are where we are etc). Its funny after McCabe's recent comments, and the likes of Dave McCarthy raving about DCL on RS not so long ago, that were prepared to let him go for a pretty inconsequential fee. I've probably seen his progression more than most fans though, and base my opinion on that too..=

 

[robbiez666]

I think it's a lottery really, but the top teams don't miss many, some are let go because they have the wrong attitude and work ethic, meaning they fail to fulfill early promise.
However, on the other hand, some lads are late developers or mature a little later than their peers, but for everyone of them, I reckon there are 50 John Cofies /Jasper Johns.

There will be some released purely due to numbers and not quite cutting it as a hot Premiership prospect. We're low enough that we should be able to pick them up and see what we can do with them.

Ditto to loans. It's often the earlier loans from the Premiership who turn out to be the better players.

 

[alcoblade]

Well he was outstanding at academy level and has done really well in his first loan spell in a very physical league. I'd expect it to take a couple of years for him to establish himself at first team level, which is why I'd cash in for the right deal (we are where we are etc). Its funny after McCabe's recent comments, and the likes of Dave McCarthy raving about DCL on RS not so long ago, that were prepared to let him go for a pretty inconsequential fee. I've probably seen his progression more than most fans though, and base my opinion on that too..=

What do you know about the fee?

UTB

 

[wizadry]

I dread to think we were planning on using DCL much next season, so I'm not sure an outright replacement is needed.

UTB

I should have quoted squad player, Alco, my apologies. He will or would be a squad player hence the two new players quote.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Nothing from the inside, but seen one million and six hundred and fifty thousand mentioned when patrolling the internet.

 

[LenTednTony]

I don't know whether DCL will turn into a star or not, but wish him good luck

However, whilst it's a classic case of needs must, it does make a mockery of all this spouted bollox about using our academy players, if all we're gonna do is flog them as soon as the first sign of interest is shown after they get near the first team

Zackly!

 

[Reynoldo]

I'm amazed people are thinking £1m is too low for a Sheff its player who hasn't really looked anywhere near our first team - if before this news broke we were all asked to value our current squads individual value no one would have been anywhere near £1m for DCL surely?

 

[Barney]

I'm amazed people are thinking £1m is too low for a Sheff its player who hasn't really looked anywhere near our first team - if before this news broke we were all asked to value our current squads individual value no one would have been anywhere near £1m for DCL surely?

Everybody with a brain would be snapping their hand off at £1m for DCL.

He's barely worth £100k.

 

[alcoblade]

Nothing from the inside, but seen one million and six hundred and fifty thousand mentioned when patrolling the internet.

A million quid would be an enormous fee based on everything I've seen, though to be fair that's just first team stuff.

Urn

 

[JohnDenver]

A million quid would be an enormous fee based on everything I've seen, though to be fair that's just first team stuff.

Urn

If there's any truth in the rumour it will be a fee based on appearances and sell-on etc...

He's a lad who could be worth big money in a couple of years, or might equally fade away into non-league. The athleticism I see is quite special. The football nouse is pretty much non-existent as yet.

 

[Keen Blade]

There are too many striker's ahead of DCL for him to get games this season. We have 1. Unknown target man not yet acquired , 2. Billy , 3. McNulty , 4. Adams , 5. Done , 6. DCL. In fact , we will probably sell another striker before season starts and still have 4 left.
Compare and contrast with CB situation where we desperately need 2 more , so that we have a pool of 4 if you include Bash.
Also desperately need a real quality CMF , and CW has already said any new CMF must be equally good at offensive and defensive role. In fact if I were CW , I would be after 2 CMF but then CW has not yet realised that Bash and Scougs are NOT first choice CMF - but he will after 3 games , when our CMF has been completely bossed about by some very ordinary opposition.
CW is no mug - he knows we are currently missing CBs and prob need 1 or 2 CMF , in addition to his desired target man and LW.
So there'll be no objections from CW to selling strikers 5 & 6.

 

[Booker4]

Sheffield United reserves or Everton reserves on much more money? hmmmm

He'd be on the bench to start with this season with us, but if he did well he'll start games as the season progresses. Che Adams might leave of course, so that would lessen the competition for DCL. Whereas at Everton he'll not even get on the bench, he'll be in he under 21's maybe then farmed out on loan to our league anyway for experience. Ideally, I'd like to see us keep DCL and for the first 3 - 6 months of the season loan him out for experience and then see how he does, like what we did last season. I think he'd be better of staying with us and either having impact time as a sub or getting loan experience in League 2, as opposed to been years away from starting at Everton even if he did go out on loan from them. Surely DCL will remember the Slew situation!

Personally I don't see DCL as a starter at our place yet so logically he'd be daft to then go further into the deep end and having to swim!

 

[robbiez666]

He'd be on the bench to start with this season with us, but if he did well he'll start games as the season progresses. Che Adams might leave of course, so that would lessen the competition for DCL. Whereas at Everton he'll not even get on the bench, he'll be in he under 21's maybe then farmed out on loan to our league anyway for experience. Ideally, I'd like to see us keep DCL and for the first 3 - 6 months of the season loan him out for experience and then see how he does, like what we did last season. I think he'd be better of staying with us and either having impact time as a sub or getting loan experience in League 2, as opposed to been years away from starting at Everton even if he did go out on loan from them. Surely DCL will remember the Slew situation!

Personally I don't see DCL as a starter at our place yet so logically he'd be daft to then go further into the deep end and having to swim!

It could be argued that if he moved to Everton, he'd spend 6 months in their U-21s and then get a loan to League 1 where he'd start games.

He would make the bench, possibly, for us.

 

[Blade56]

A million quid would be an enormous fee based on everything I've seen, though to be fair that's just first team stuff.

Urn

Would agree ab BUT given the billions now slushing around the money laundering PL it's peanuts. We've been in this league to long and think a million is big money whereas it's a month or twos wages for a lot of players.

Feckin madness

 

[grafikhaus]

Risk for Everton? Have you not heard about the new Premier League TV deal?

That's true. I read yesterday that Palace have bid £31.5m for Benteke. The world's gone fucking mad.

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

I know that it's easier to train a naturally gifted footballer into an athlete, than it is to teach an athlete how to have natural footballing ability, yes I do.

In that case, you are flying in the face of opinion from every Academy and youth-team coach in the country, as well as established medical opinion. Athleticism--and particularly pace--is essentially natural. It has to do with the quantity of particular fibres you are born with in your legs. You cannot coach this. You have it or you don't.

When my lad was "released" from Academy football after 4 years, this is exactly what they told me: "He's a technically-accomplished footballer who gives everything and reads the game exceptionally well, but he is not an athlete. We can make athletes into footballers, but we can't make footballers into athletes. This means that at your son's age [15 at the time] better footballers are often released, and poorer ones progress".

Is there anything at all that you won't pronounce "authoritatively" on, in order to draw attention to how little you know about stuff ?

 

[Barney]

In that case, you are flying in the face of opinion from every Academy and youth-team coach in the country, as well as established medical opinion. Athleticism--and particularly pace--is essentially natural. It has to do with the quantity of particular fibres you are born with in your legs. You cannot coach this. You have it or you don't.

When my lad was "released" from Academy football after 4 years, this is exactly what they told me: "He's a technically-accomplished footballer who gives everything and reads the game exceptionally well, but he is not an athlete. We can make athletes into footballers, but we can't make footballers into athletes. This means that at your son's age [15 at the time] better footballers are often released, and poorer ones progress".

Is there anything at all that you won't pronounce "authoritatively" on, in order to draw attention to how little you know about stuff ?

So you're saying you can coach an athlete how to have natural footballing ability?

 

[Blade for Sale]

So you're saying you can coach an athlete how to have natural footballing ability?

No, he's saying enough football ability can be instilled into an athlete in order for them to make a fist of it in the game. On the other hand, a chap can have all the vision, technique and anticipation in the world, but if he can't run up and down the pitch for 90 mins he's not going to make it.

 

[Barney]

No, he's saying enough football ability can be instilled into an athlete in order for them to make a fist of it in the game. On the other hand, a chap can have all the vision, technique and anticipation in the world, but if he can't run up and down the pitch for 90 mins he's not going to make it.

In terms of the athlete, what's the starting point ability wise, none at all? Are we talking about athletes who have natural ability or athletes that don't?