CONFIRMED Callum Robinson

[Chali 2na]

If I had to pull a figure out of the sky I'd say £30m maximum

Fair enough.

I expect you're about right, though I wouldn't be surprised if we spent a tad more, based on what Cardiff (a good team to compare ourselves too IMO) spent this year.

I'd say we "need" about 7 signings, let's hope the budget will stretch that far.


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I understand people saying "we get £x million" just for being promoted but we don't get all of that money straight away and some of that will already be accounted for (bonus payments, wage increases, stadium improvements etc). We'd also need to set some aside for the January window.

Completely agree, some people are being a little too simplistic when it comes to the broadcast income, for the reasons you outline above.

One thing is disagree with you (and probabaly a lot of others) is January though: If I was running a football club, I wouldn't hold any back for January. I'd spend any transfer budget in the summer, when players are cheaper, and available to you for the full season, rather than the second half - but what do I know?

 

[sitwell]

Honed by the cold hard facts of Premier League football pal. We've performed miracles so far but this is a different entity entirely.

Championship manager is a really original argument though - I doubt a brain your size could handle much better insults than that.

Well can you explain to me in what you call 'daft comparisons' how we spent an absolute fraction of what WBA and Stoke have (established premiership clubs btw) and yet pissed all over them this season ?

 

[LJBlade]

Fair enough.

I expect you're about right, though I wouldn't be surprised if we spent a tad more, based on what Cardiff (a good team to compare ourselves too IMO) spent this year.

I'd say we "need" about 7 signings, let's hope the budget will stretch that far.


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Completely agree, some people are being a little too simplistic when it comes to the broadcast income, for the reasons you outline above.

One thing is disagree with you (and probabaly a lot of others) is January though: If I was running a football club, I wouldn't hold any back for January. I'd spend any transfer budget in the summer, when players are cheaper, and available to you for the full season, rather than the second half - but what do I know?

Yeah I see your thinking in regards to January, my comment was based on what 'usually' happens though.

 

[Chali 2na]

Yeah I see your thinking in regards to January, my comment was based on what 'usually' happens though.

Of course, I assumed as much; I was just going off on a tangent

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

If Che Adams or David Brooks move on there would be a few more quid for the kitty.

 

[dc_blade]

Did we? We spent £83m less than Stoke in total last season, £69m less than West Brom and £64m less than Villa. We also spent less than 11 other teams. I'd say we didn't spend that much comparatively.

What's the source on those total spends, LJ? TIA

 

[Mouth of the South]

If I had to pull a figure out of the sky I'd say £30m maximum.

I understand people saying "we get £x million" just for being promoted but we don't get all of that money straight away and some of that will already be accounted for (bonus payments, wage increases, stadium improvements etc). We'd also need to set some aside for the January window.

I'm with you LJB - only a wild guess with no ITK knowledge behind it but I reckon Utd will spend around half of what Mr Akinbiyi is expecting. I've no idea where his figure of £180m came from but as well as being inaccurate, it doesn't consider when tv money is actually received, other financial commitments e.g. ground improvements and of course fiscal matters.

On the plus side, the club's revenue from other commercial activities should increase significantly. The pre-season tour of KSA should be a real money-spinner, if a little warm (& dry!).

 

[LJBlade]

What's the source on those total spends, LJ? TIA

I can’t get it up on my phone for some reason. I’ll send it across when I’m back at my desk if that’s ok

 

[Grizzly blade]

Why do the 2 need to be separate? Why can't you plan accordingly and spend money?
And it's not 'daft' money anymore - especially considering you get £180mil just for being promoted.

I will tell you why....because those who are presently at the top of their value....like Maupay is...won’t be on the list to start with.
Brentford quite rightly will be demanding top price and expecting a queue of buyers for a player they picked up for practically peanuts and have worked hard on. He’s slap bang in the middle of his contract and will be expecting a chance to progress up and gain a pay rise to boot.
He’s their latest success in the mood of Hogan was.
If Brentford are realistic they would be thinking £10m as a starting bid given what that pile of crap Waghorn went for. I suspect the fee may be well north of that by the time it’s done.
So unless we are the ONLY premier team interested, the player is insistent he goes to us and we are prepared to hold out like we have before we will have to pay up top dollar.

Now I realise he has potential, is still young and is clearly a quality footballer having watched him play....is he a player that will set the world alight and go again in the premier and making a huge name for himself? I don’t see it....so if we did stump up, unless we stay up we would be in a shocking position going down needing to move the player on....and we then lose even more money.

So that’s why we won’t get him....nothing to do with this mythical £180m because that doesn’t last long up there, especially as neither current owner has the depth of pockets to risk the kind of sums needed to fill the squad with these kinds of buys and their future salaries that might give us a much better chance of success stayng up.

The way to do it...as Fulham proved when they got rid of an excellent Champ side, is trust the lads who got you there to form the bulk of a squad and add 3 or 4 (relative to us) big signings. And by that I mean no more than say £8m (double current record fee based on doubled budget). If we stay up, we repeat the formula, pushing our limit just a little more and hope again to succeed by staying up. And that folks is the way it goes for 5 seasons, you just hope to stay up so that by year 5 you have a full squad of premier league quality and experience that can aim for maybe a cup final or the top 12.

Slow and steady it has to be, not get above our station and think we are something other than what we are. Only way it changes is if we get a billionaire owner intent on doing it the Wolves way.

 

[themaninblack]

I’ve ‘liked’ your post GB but that isn’t really what I mean...but there isn’t a button for ‘grudgingly accepts this a sensible approach and what will probably happen’.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Did we? We spent £83m less than Stoke in total last season, £69m less than West Brom and £64m less than Villa. We also spent less than 11 other teams. I'd say we didn't spend that much comparatively.

Comparatively ,but we didn't comparatively have those figures to spend ,we only spent what we did due to unbudgeted income from.player sales but the side needed improving from the year before

 

[8lade]

I'm guessing the figure 180 is a season in the Prem plus parachute payments (it's a guess because I didn't come up with it).
WE need to spend more money this season but I fully expect the usual value signings but more proven ones. Last year we were a competitive Championship side requiring fine tuning (as we were the season before) this year we've taken the big step and I feel we'll need at very least a good quality goalscorer and a holding midfielder which could've been Coutts (sadly looks unlikely) and then squad backup I wouldn't put it past the management picking this up for 20-30 million but this will need to be the summer spend, there will need to be funds made available in January too in case it's all gone wrong. However since the money is paid pre season and January (something I've only seen mentioned on this forum) it should work out.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

It's as if people haven't been paying attention to Wilder's transfer strategy over the last 3 years.

And how much money do you get in L1 and the champ

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

If some people are expecting Utd to lay out tens of millions in transfer fees, I'm afraid they're likely to be disappointed. Yes, I'm sure a lot more will be spent than in recent seasons but there is more chance of one of us playing than the club paying £25m for Maupay, £20m for McBurnie or £10m for Robinson. If that is what they'll cost, they won't be joining Utd.

We are in the prem we’ll spend 10 million on two maybe 3 players.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

People said last season that if we didn't spend money we wouldn't be going up. I said at the time that they were wrong.

Prems a complete different kettle of fish

 

[BerksBlade]

I can't see CW changing his transfer policy - even with PL money he won't pay over the odds for someone. Brentford will ask silly money for Maupay and someone might pay it - don't think it will be us.
But we've got some financial leeway now, so take a punt on Robinson, and if he doesn't work out as a central striker, loan him out somewhere else ('cause we don't do wingers).

 

[dc_blade]

When Wilder (finally) had money available, he spent it. Contrary to the wishes of some on here, he didn’t let his heart rule his head and stick Jake Wright back into the team as the middle CB—he went out and broke our transfer record (allegedly) for a top-class young defender in the shape of John Egan. If Brentford had been cannier operators they would’ve rinsed us for more money on that deal, frankly.

He’ll do the same this time. He’ll push the board for as much money as possible—privately if he can, publicly if he must. He’s done the latter before, after all.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I can't see CW changing his transfer policy - even with PL money he won't pay over the odds for someone.

He pretty much said that in his longish interview this week – I reckon we’ll potentially see 2/3 new players for the starting XI in August, and the same number upgrading our options on the bench.

 

[Sheffsteel]

And how much money do you get in L1 and the champ

Isn’t it something like

League 1 = you receive 1 million
Championship = you receive 6 million
Premier League = you receive on average 120 million from Sky.

Then you need to add on commercial income, advertising and gate receipts to these figures.
The general ball park figure is the PL is worth around 150 million per season.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Did we? We spent £83m less than Stoke in total last season, £69m less than West Brom and £64m less than Villa. We also spent less than 11 other teams. I'd say we didn't spend that much comparatively.

Isn’t it something like

League 1 = you receive 1 million
Championship = you receive 6 million
Premier League = you receive on average 120 million from Sky.

Then you need to add on commercial income, advertising and gate receipts to these figures.
The general ball park figure is the PL is worth around 150 million per season.

Don’t think all these people realize how much we actually get who are saying we don’t need to spend 10 million on a player.

The prem takes us to a different planet money wise

 

[LJBlade]

Don’t think all these people realize how much we actually get who are saying we don’t need to spend 10 million on a player.

The prem takes us to a different planet money wise

How much do we get?

 

[ormester]

30-40 m spent next year would prove we are not there to make the numbers

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

How much do we get?

100 million billion pounds

 

[LJBlade]

100 million billion pounds

So you don’t even know then. Great stuff

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

So you don’t even know then. Great stuff

190 million I think it is and that’s if we go straight back down plus the added revenue for selling the most season tickets that we’ve ever sold.

Plus the possibility of getting an owner like that of wolves and Leicester who will put money in with the ambition of making them a top ten premier league team.

Spending ten million pound on 2/3 players should be what we’re doing , it doesn’t matter how much you spend as long as it’s spent wisely

 

[Bladezz]

I would hope we spend 40million.

Gives us a chance to bring in 2/3 first teamers such as Maupay etc. Obviously a lot depends on contract situations etc.

I don’t claim to be in the know but just say Maupay was in last year of his deal he would be cheaper so it’s about finding the right balance.

We have an ethos at this club up and coming players with something to prove. I expect most of our signings will be from the championship.

 

[Ricky]

It has to be the time to move for him.

Apparently they're opening contract talks with him.

Also seen a Tweet that Bournemouth paid for his operation which I hope isn't true. Would be quite dirty too.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Gerrimin.

 

[FTPE]

How bad was his injury? And how has he looked after it?

I really like him but regardless of his age an injury like that can really holt a pacey players progress.

 

[Ranmoorblade]

£175 million is the minimum for one season.

£95million first season then £47m and £33m
The higher you go, the more you get and the more you’re on tv the more you get.