CONFIRMED Callum Robinson

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Akinbiyi said:
Little old miracle Bournemouth will pay that.
Little old miracle Bournemouth who have a higher net spend in the past 5 years than Liverpool.

Little old miracle Bournemouth that we're apparently looking to emulate.
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Liverpool have been investing since they cashed in on Torres. The return on the likes of Suarez and Coutinho has been huge, that’s why their net spend is so low. They just keep reinvesting it and they’ve got very good at finding the right players.
 

Villa are looking to invest to survive...it remains to be seen if we are...and they probably think they can compete with the massive clubs like Bournemouth. It's called having owners who have some firepower not ones who are fighting over half a milliln here and half a million there
 
FriethBlade said:
Villa are looking to invest to survive...it remains to be seen if we are...and they probably think they can compete with the massive clubs like Bournemouth. It's called having owners who have some firepower not ones who are fighting over half a milliln here and half a million there
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It remains to be seen if a lot of teams are investing. Still too early to say really, at least the money isn't coming from those two pillocks, and by the end of the court case it's done (pending appeal, but hopefully it doesn't come to that)
 
Akinbiyi said:
Little old miracle Bournemouth will pay that.
Little old miracle Bournemouth who have a higher net spend in the past 5 years than Liverpool.

Little old miracle Bournemouth that we're apparently looking to emulate.
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They remain a small club. Like water, they’ll ultimately find their level. That’s football.
 
bromtom said:
It remains to be seen if a lot of teams are investing. Still too early to say really, at least the money isn't coming from those two pillocks, and by the end of the court case it's done (pending appeal, but hopefully it doesn't come to that)
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Agreed Brompton...but 17 of the teams in the premiership already have premiership squads. This
Pinchy said:
They remain a small club. Like water, they’ll ultimately find their level. That’s football.
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Agreed Pinchy..just like Wigan et al...but what's our level ? With a bit of ambition and some monied owners it could be premier league but the last 20yrs average must be mid championship ?
 
FriethBlade said:
Agreed Brompton...but 17 of the teams in the premiership already have premiership squads. This

Agreed Pinchy..just like Wigan et al...but what's our level ? With a bit of ambition and some monied owners it could be premier league but the last 20yrs average must be mid championship ?
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I agree. I’m known as McCabe man and I am, but we didn’t seize the chance to secure a Premier place when we were ten points clear last time. That was the right time to spend big. I blame Kev and Neil in equal measure for that, me.

I don’t know what Tufty’s budget is and the suggested £20m is a guess. I shall be disappointed if we don’t spend a good deal more than that. Not because I want spending for the sake of it, that’s barmy, but because I believe the players we’ll need to survive will cost cumulatively a good deal more than that. I’ve heard KM’s Radio Sheff interview just after we won promotion. He spoke of a ‘healthy budget’ but also acknowledged that in the PL you can’t ‘buck the market’. He’s right. You can’t and we mustn’t.

I have no time at all for the ‘go down and come back stronger’ line of thinking. How does the song go? “Six years in Division one...”.

We have a golden opportunity. It must not be squandered for a ha’porth of tar.
 
Pinchy said:
I agree. I’m known as McCabe man and I am, but we didn’t seize the chance to secure a Premier place when we were ten points clear last time. That was the right time to spend big. I blame Kev and Neil in equal measure for that, me.

I don’t know what Tufty’s budget is and the suggested £20m is a guess. I shall be disappointed if we don’t spend a good deal more than that. Not because I want spending for the sake of it, that’s barmy, but because I believe the players we’ll need to survive will cost cumulatively a good deal more than that. I’ve heard KM’s Radio Sheff interview just after we won promotion. He spoke of a ‘healthy budget’ but also acknowledged that in the PL you can’t ‘buck the market’. He’s right. You can’t and we mustn’t.

I have no time at all for the ‘go down and come back stronger’ line of thinking. How does the song go? “Six years in Division one...”.

We have a golden opportunity. It must not be squandered for a ha’porth of tar.
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I wrote something similar elsewhere, so in complete agreement with your sentiments.

From where it came I've no idea, but the figure of £20 million seems to be a popular choice where transfer budgets are concerned. The truth is, a budget of this size, as I wrote previously, offers a limited hand for Wilder to play, it also provides a limiting opportunity by which we fail to strengthen our chances of remaining in the Premiership. I'm familiar with all the figures connected with the bumper sums that we'll have at our disposal, yet anyone can do the sums - increased fees and wages, agents, money spent on training facilities, staff wages, and anything connected to the daily running of the club, plus the parachute payments that we don't get our paws on just yet. Anything left out is an oversight, apologies.

The court case couldn't have come at a worse time, and so far either owner has been tarred and feathered to such an extent that they'll never have our trust again. McCabe just about squeezes ahead if I'm pushed to support, but it's slim lead. The Prince is, to use a rarely heard term these days, a carpetbagger who would skin us from top to toe if given the opportunity, and there wouldn't be a thing that any of us could do to stop him. Thoroughly depressing, at least at the moment, but there's still a way to go, so I'm not holding my breath imagining the worst possible outcome. I just hope that KM's legal bod has sufficient nous and insight to squeeze the Prince one more time so that further revelations put the final boot into the Prince's attempts to feather his own financial nest.

One last thought, all the while this story is unfolding, I wonder what Wilder and those closest to him are thinking about their employers?
 
Caseh said:
Why are a handful of our fans so bitter towards Bournemouth?
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I'm not bitter I've just developed a real dislike for them over the past couple of seasons. I just think for the money they've been spending they are average to terrible, but everyone's up Howe's chuff constantly, just bugs me.

They're a small club but it's no longer a minnows story, they're financially as big a fish as lot of other teams who we never remark on when it comes to them being in the Premier League.
 
bromtom said:
I'm not bitter I've just developed a real dislike for them over the past couple of seasons. I just think for the money they've been spending they are average to terrible, but everyone's up Howe's chuff constantly, just bugs me.

They're a small club but it's no longer a minnows story, they're financially as big a fish as lot of other teams who we never remark on when it comes to them being in the Premier League.
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Small club maybe, but they have an excellent manager
 
Blade58 said:
Small club maybe, but they have an excellent manager
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Terrible last season though, his signings were hit and miss and their form was attrocious.

Still up his trumpet.
 
bromtom said:
Terrible last season though, his signings were hit and miss and their form was attrocious.

Still up his trumpet.
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Terrible but got 45 points finishing 14th

I hope we are that terrible next season ;)

PS: Most clubs have hit and miss signings. Can't get all of the signings right all of the time. Even Lord Wilder gets it wrong from time to time
 

Pinchy said:
I agree. I’m known as McCabe man and I am, but we didn’t seize the chance to secure a Premier place when we were ten points clear last time. That was the right time to spend big. I blame Kev and Neil in equal measure for that, me.
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I’m probably considered a Warnock man, but would completely agree with that. I still find it frustrating that we were willing to expand the budget for such a visibly appalling manager in Robson rather than give Warnock the same flexibility mere months before when it could have mattered more. But equally Warnock could have done much more to improve his relationship with McCabe to facilitate that.

I worry that the remarkable job Wilder has done might be a suggestion to the owners that he can do a job on the cheap this year too. Last year only happened because we did actually spend a bit (albeit by also selling Brooks, though I’d argue at the time we were selling a squad player rather than a guaranteed starter) and were able to spend it on quality we couldn’t attract the year prior. We don’t want to be going crazy with the transfer cash, but at the same time we don’t want to be regretting a missed opportunity. There is a balance there. While we had good business last January too we shouldn’t forget that it’s usually a problematic window in terms of value for money. We need to therefore make the moves now, allowing any purchases to also impact on a full season of games.

Whether that includes the heroic return of The Unattached Player, who’s to say...
 
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Blade58 said:
Terrible but got 45 points finishing 14th

I hope we are that terrible next season ;)

PS: Most clubs have hit and miss signings. Can't get all of the signings right all of the time. Even Lord Wilder gets it wrong from time to time
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They had a purple patch and survived on that, their form for the majority of the season was embarrassing.

It's the amount of money being spunked I find so annoying. Obviously Wilder has had some stinkers too but I doubt he'll ever make a £12m stinker.

And in my opinion for the money spent they are underperforming, Dyche got Burnley in Europe for nowt.

I just don't like Bournemouth, my reasons may not be completely sound haha
 
Pinchy said:
I agree. I’m known as McCabe man and I am, but we didn’t seize the chance to secure a Premier place when we were ten points clear last time. That was the right time to spend big. I blame Kev and Neil in equal measure for that, me.

I don’t know what Tufty’s budget is and the suggested £20m is a guess. I shall be disappointed if we don’t spend a good deal more than that. Not because I want spending for the sake of it, that’s barmy, but because I believe the players we’ll need to survive will cost cumulatively a good deal more than that. I’ve heard KM’s Radio Sheff interview just after we won promotion. He spoke of a ‘healthy budget’ but also acknowledged that in the PL you can’t ‘buck the market’. He’s right. You can’t and we mustn’t.

I have no time at all for the ‘go down and come back stronger’ line of thinking. How does the song go? “Six years in Division one...”.

We have a golden opportunity. It must not be squandered for a ha’porth of tar.
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What's pretty frustrating is when we were in the championship if a premier league club came calling we seemed to have no option but to sell.

Now we are premiership it seems we are going to struggle to sign top championship players and thats what we need as a minimum to survive. The goal posts change every season finance wise with the same player seemingly going up in value by 5m per year !

I'd think we need at least 25m to buy 2 decent championship strikers alone and it's not unreasonable to expect us to be able to afford the likes of Maupay and McBurnie . Add to that a Duffy like player, a keeper and other reinforcements and we will need a budget of at least 30m.
 
FriethBlade said:
What's pretty frustrating is when we were in the championship if a premier league club came calling we seemed to have no option but to sell.

Now we are premiership it seems we are going to struggle to sign top championship players and thats what we need as a minimum to survive.
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We found that at times when we first got back to the Championship – you’d have expected the Ryan Leonard deal to happen the moment we showed interest, but Southend held their nerve and we had to wait till January before getting him.

Also, when we were in the Championship we turned down Prem offers for JOC from Brighton. It wasn’t a given then that we’d sell, and we should see the Prem status as a given that we can get clubs to roll over unless we make a very attractive offer, or the player’s agent helps engineer a move.
 
FriethBlade said:
What's pretty frustrating is when we were in the championship if a premier league club came calling we seemed to have no option but to sell.

Now we are premiership it seems we are going to struggle to sign top championship players and thats what we need as a minimum to survive. The goal posts change every season finance wise with the same player seemingly going up in value by 5m per year !

I'd think we need at least 25m to buy 2 decent championship strikers alone and it's not unreasonable to expect us to be able to afford the likes of Maupay and McBurnie . Add to that a Duffy like player, a keeper and other reinforcements and we will need a budget of at least 30m.
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Yes, it's because they're lying bastards
 
finlaytheblade said:
They will sell given the price is right ,usual dig at the club
Topple !
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Yes, we've always got good prices.
There was a time a couple of years ago when three of England's back four were previously our players, and we probably didn't get £10 million for the lot

And I'm having a go at our owners, and the previous owners, and the previous owners before them, and the previous owners before that.
Not the club
 

Topplayersleave said:
Yes, we've always got good prices.
There was a time a couple of years ago when three of England's back four were previously our players, and we probably didn't get £10 million for the lot

And I'm having a go at our owners, and the previous owners, and the previous owners before them, and the previous owners before that.
Not the club
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Walker, Jagielka and Cahill? Despite the fact Cahill was never our player?
 
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