CONFIRMED Callum O'Hare - signs for Wrexham

[Houso]

I'd imagine 4-3-3 or 4-4-2. Front to back very quickly and create overloads out wide...

Devils advocate - those unhappy at COH going - how do we play with him?

Rather than fill the hole, assume it disappears

Would imagine Bamford rotates with Campbell as a lone No 9 and out wide we have Chong, BBD, Donovan and maybe add one more with One to cover all positions....

£7m is daylight robbery. Not quite £6m for Trusty, but not far behind...

I mean absolutely, but we still have to replace him as he would have been an option from the wing cutting in. So the same point stands. He goes, we lose an option.

 

[Swannyblade]

I'd imagine 4-3-3 or 4-4-2. Front to back very quickly and create overloads out wide...

Devils advocate - those unhappy at COH going - how do we play with him?

I'd be happy with 4-3-3 and it would make most sense with current squad. Could do with at least one more winger option though.
Would not want 4-4-2 as it would mean Cannon playing which is like playing with 10 men.
It has been frustrating when COH has been stuck out on the wing, so in isolation, I don't think it's the disaster others might. However, when paired with the sales of Hamer and Brooks, it's a hell of a lot of goals to remove from the team.
There will have to be some clever business done today to cover our arses on this one...I'm not holding my breath.

 

[ancientblade]

I'd imagine 4-3-3 or 4-4-2. Front to back very quickly and create overloads out wide...

Devils advocate - those unhappy at COH going - how do we play with him?

433 i would imagine 442 leaves us 1 light in midfield which showed at cardiff with the room cardiff's midfielders had philips and jairo competing for the dm role arblaster peck and rothwell for the other 2 spots and i would imagine donovan and bbd either side of bamford

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

433 i would imagine 442 leaves us 1 light in midfield which showed at cardiff with the room cardiff's midfielders had philips and jairo competing for the dm role arblaster peck and rothwell for the other 2 spots and i would imagine donovan and bbd either side of bamford

That's how I see us playing.

Rothwell & Phillips/Jairo sat deep with Peck/Arblaster in the Number 8 role...

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I mean absolutely, but we still have to replace him as he would have been an option from the wing cutting in. So the same point stands. He goes, we lose an option.

You hope we bring in at least one forward, but would imagine it'll be a very different profile to COH....

 

[Hamer's Right Peg]

Phillps/Arblaster/Peck midfield 3 has me intrigued

 

[Swannyblade]

 

[ancientblade]

That's how I see us playing.

Rothwell & Phillips/Jairo sat deep with Peck/Arblaster in the Number 8 role...

yeah if we play with 2 wide men we cant play 2 strikers we just dont get enough possesion in midfield

 

[Champagneblade]

Sack the board !

We’re basically a rudderless ship.

It’s been left to the guy who picks the teaM to basically take care of the entire shortfall with little desire to help (pay) or own the prior mistakes from above.

The fact they don’t even address the fans makes them the most cowardly owners we’ve ever had.

They’ve literally not lifted a finger to help the manager and playing staff all summer. Any wages probably taken care of by those departing and any bid being considered seems merely a delay to being accepted.

The fact they entered an agreement with the Prince and have seemingly reneged on it is disgusting. They’ve should both. E struck off, banned from football and forced to sell.

It’s absolutely appalling the disdain they have treated the fans with.

 

[dexter101]

That's how I see us playing.

Rothwell & Phillips/Jairo sat deep with Peck/Arblaster in the Number 8 role...

I am not very good in my knowledge of tactics and formations but in this formation couldn't O'Hare played in the 8 role. He is one of the few transitions we see from midfield to the forwards. Is he just too lightweight to play the same role but slightly deeper?

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

yeah if we play with 2 wide men we cant play 2 strikers we just dont get enough possesion in midfield

I think we saw the last of two strikers on Saturday... It doesn't work. We get mauled in midfield with only two in there.

 

[ancientblade]

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yes thats the system i see as well but think kitching will be alongside tanganga

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I am not very good in my knowledge of tactics and formations but in this formation couldn't O'Hare played in the 8 role. He is one of the few transitions we see from midfield to the forwards. Is he just too lightweight to play the same role but slightly deeper?

Wilder disagrees obviously as he's been trying to shunt him out wide instead. Think we saw last season when Selles played COH and Hamer alongside in Peck how that works....

 

[Hamer's Right Peg]

I am not very good in my knowledge of tactics and formations but in this formation couldn't O'Hare played in the 8 role. He is one of the few transitions we see from midfield to the forwards. Is he just too lightweight to play the same role but slightly deeper?

He is very lightweight and pretty slow over large distances.

 

[ancientblade]

I think we saw the last of two strikers on Saturday... It doesn't work. We get mauled in midfield with only two in there.

it only works with 2 when you go long and have a physical striker to hold the ball up and win headers agree with you doubt wilder will go with 2 strikers again

 

[bertieblade]

Doubt Wilder knows which players he will have let alone how to use them

 

[Swannyblade]

yes thats the system i see as well but think kitching will be alongside tanganga

Hope so. The areas that give me concern are Tanganga's defensive partner (despite McG's early season form), someone else on the left wing to compete with BBD (Ryan One?) and another striker option if Bamford is off the boil.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

it only works with 2 when you go long and have a physical striker to hold the ball up and win headers agree with you doubt wilder will go with 2 strikers again

If we a CM like Souza in there, then it could potentially work, but the profile of CMs we currently have it's a disaster waiting to happen.

On Saturday there was a passage of play when one of our attacks broke down and watching Peck and Phillips try to get back into shape was like watching my teenage lad get out of bed and start tidying his room....

 

[dexter101]

Wilder disagrees obviously as he's been trying to shunt him out wide instead. Think we saw last season when Selles played COH and Hamer alongside in Peck how that works....

He is very lightweight and pretty slow over large distances.

Thanks both.

I like him, I think he has been a bright spark over the past couple of seasons that have been in short supply. Like you said, if we can't get him to fit into the tactics, no point in keeping him and so might as well get good money for him. Just why we are deciding our tactics on the last day of the transfer window is beyond me.

Playing same 4-5-1 as we have played for most of past 2 seasons with O'hare behind Bamford/Campbell seemed like the natural journey when Hamer left and we could have brought it a Left midfield and balanced the side out.

 

[S64 Blade]

Just can’t see us letting him leave without a replacement coming in .

Are you new here?

 

[Wards]

Selling your Player of the Year, your Young Player of the Year and your Player of the Year from the previous season and still expecting good things? It’s certainly a way of thinking, that’s for sure.

 

[Cheeky Blade]

Selling your Player of the Year, your Young Player of the Year and your Player of the Year from the previous season and still expecting good things? It’s certainly a way of thinking, that’s for sure.

It’s ‘the Blades way’

 

[Swannyblade]

If we a CM like Souza in there, then it could potentially work, but the profile of CMs we currently have it's a disaster waiting to happen.

On Saturday there was a passage of play when one of our attacks broke down and watching Peck and Phillips try to get back into shape was like watching my teenage lad get out of bed and start tidying his room....

If we can start to get 90mins out of Riedewald I think it could be a game changer for our midfield. We look so much more organised when he's in there marshalling others and providing a calming presence.

 

[Wards]

It’s ‘the Blades way’

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Bladesman]

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Thanks both.

I like him, I think he has been a bright spark over the past couple of seasons that have been in short supply. Like you said, if we can't get him to fit into the tactics, no point in keeping him and so might as well get good money for him. Just why we are deciding our tactics on the last day of the transfer window is beyond me.

Playing same 4-5-1 as we have played for most of past 2 seasons with O'hare behind Bamford/Campbell seemed like the natural journey when Hamer left and we could have brought it a Left midfield and balanced the side out.

In theory yes, but his returns aren't worthy of building a side around him. If you compare him to others who we have played in that role - McGoldrick, MGW, Ndiaye - you see his output is no where near Thier level. He doesn't dominate games. If you play with a 'No 10' you really need them to be running the show and he's not good enough to do that.

In isolation this is actually a great move, it's just when it's added to Hamer and Brooks (which again in isolation made sense) it's a tricky narrative to get behind.

 

[Hamer's Right Peg]

If we can start to get 90mins out of Riedewald I think it could be a game changer for our midfield. We look so much more organised when he's in there marshalling others and providing a calming presence.

Phillips and Jairo basically stopped the Cardiff onslaught Peck and Rothwell were allowing

 

[NerdyBlade]

We’re basically a rudderless ship.

It’s been left to the guy who picks the teaM to basically take care of the entire shortfall with little desire to help (pay) or own the prior mistakes from above.

The fact they don’t even address the fans makes them the most cowardly owners we’ve ever had.

They’ve literally not lifted a finger to help the manager and playing staff all summer. Any wages probably taken care of by those departing and any bid being considered seems merely a delay to being accepted.

The fact they entered an agreement with the Prince and have seemingly reneged on it is disgusting. They’ve should both. E struck off, banned from football and forced to sell.

It’s absolutely appalling the disdain they have treated the fans with.

Is any of that backed up with any tangible facts? Do you have insider info maybe? Or are you just angry and lashing out?

Understand the anger towards the owners, but let's not make stuff up

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

If this is true, which it probably is...why would you sell COH. Let him go in January when you've got a chance of getting a replacement in.

Its bonkers that we sell players without anyone lined up. The same happened when we sold Moore, it wasn't until Wilder brought Bamford in that we created competition again.