Bitter battle for the Blades - Daily Mail Article

[Sothall_Blade]

How would you intend on proving it was true, if challenged?

I wouldn’t be making an allegation. I would be reporting the fact that an allegation had been made. Like in the “me too” cases. I genuinely don’t know why it’s different

 

[stringer]

I wouldn’t be making an allegation. I would be reporting the fact that an allegation had been made. Like in the “me too” cases. I genuinely don’t know why it’s different

They’re pretty much one and the same, making the allegation or reporting it. Which ‘me too’ cases do you refer to? Would be interested to see an example. I’m sad like that but I think it’s an interesting aspect of the law.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

The idea that a professional writer would write anti-SUFC things in a national newspaper, simply because he supported Wednesday, is fanciful. The other way round, if United are ‘one of English football’s most famous clubs’ then so are Wednesday.

Clearly not old enough to recall Martin Samuel and his balanced coverage of Tevez ? - albeit his 'support' was/is for a club nearly as vile & reprehensible as t'pork

# update
Apologies hadn't read all the thread when I responded - that wanksplat still boils my piss

 

[stringer]

Clearly not old enough to recall Martin Samuel and his balanced coverage of Tevez ? - albeit his 'support' was/is for a club nearly as vile & reprehensible as t'pork

# update
Apologies hadn't read all the thread when I responded - that wanksplat still boils my piss

It was about 12 years ago. I’m honoured you think I’m so young

 

[Snowman]

Why? He’s accusing a Govt minister of accepting a bribe

Is he? Where?

 

[stringer]

Is he? Where?

Sorry, I thought we were being serious

 

[Sothall_Blade]

They’re pretty much one and the same, making the allegation or reporting it. Which ‘me too’ cases do you refer to? Would be interested to see an example. I’m sad like that but I think it’s an interesting aspect of the law.

Has Harvey Weinstein been convicted of any crimes yet? I’m aware various allegations have been made. I read it in the paper.

Is your post #60 where you mention what allegation has been made the same as my posts?

 

[Snowman]

Sorry, I thought we were being serious

Sorry I am.

 

[stringer]

Has Harvey Weinstein been convicted of any crimes yet? I’m aware various allegations have been made. I read it in the paper.

Is your post #60 where you mention what allegation has been made the same as my posts?

Were they made in court? Or in America? Different laws apply.

 

[stringer]

Sorry I am.

What are you asking?

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Were they made in court? Or in America? Different laws apply.

I dunno. I think I’ll keep my gob shut now though. Just in case!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Privileged ?

 

[Snowman]

Where, specifically, in writing, has McCabe made that allegation that Prince A has accepted a bribe?

 

[stringer]

Privileged ?

Not explicitly. Skeleton docs aren’t expressly privileged

Where, specifically, in writing, has McCabe made that allegation that Prince A has accepted a bribe?

Court docs. Which is how everyone seems to know about it. His lawyer also repeated it at the shareholders meeting

 

[Snowman]

Not explicitly. Skeleton docs aren’t expressly privileged



Court docs. Which is how everyone seems to know about it. His lawyer also repeated it at the shareholders meeting

Lazy. Lazy Lazy.

 

[stringer]

Lazy. Lazy Lazy.

?

 

[South Bucks]

Some of you lot would do well to stop naming people on here unless its proven fact in the public domain unless you want a knock on the door. Its why the rest of us use X and Y and A and B and elude to who it is and use allegedly a lot as per TV shows like have I got news for you. I shudder when i read some of the "allegations" on here.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Some of you lot would do well to stop naming people on here unless its proven fact in the public domain unless you want a knock on the door. Its why the rest of us use X and Y and A and B and elude to who it is and use allegedly a lot as per TV shows like have I got news for you. I shudder when i read some of the "allegations" on here.

It's actually allude and putting "allegedly" in front of something means diddly squat legally. You should understand what you're talking about before offering legal "advice". As for x y and z if it's clear who they are, well, if you don't know you don't know. You don't.

HIGNFY shows go in front of lawyers before its broadcast btw.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Not explicitly. Skeleton docs aren’t expressly privileged



Court docs. Which is how everyone seems to know about it. His lawyer also repeated it at the shareholders meeting[/QUOTE

Not explicitly. Skeleton docs aren’t expressly privileged



Court docs. Which is how everyone seems to know about it. His lawyer also repeated it at the shareholders meeting

https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2014/news/law-column-taken-as-read-privileged-or-not/

 

[Houston_Blade]

from a bit of digging I think the reporter, Matt Barlow, is a pig.

He’s not really a pig, he’s Frank Barlow’s son so watched them as a kid, he’s been in London all his adult life and is more of a Chelsea fan than anything as he’s reported on them for that long.

 

[stringer]

https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2014/news/law-column-taken-as-read-privileged-or-not/

Though the answer is unclear, there are convincing arguments in favour... Surprisingly, there is no answer on the issue in statute or in case law. The fact that someone as eminent as Hugh Tomlinson QC thinks this is an issue that needs to be addressed demonstrates that the current law is unsatisfactory – but for the foreseeable future, this is an uncertainty that journalists just have to live with.

That was also four years ago ST. Would you take the risk?

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

I wouldn’t be making an allegation. I would be reporting the fact that an allegation had been made. Like in the “me too” cases. I genuinely don’t know why it’s different

They’re pretty much one and the same, making the allegation or reporting it. Which ‘me too’ cases do you refer to? Would be interested to see an example. I’m sad like that but I think it’s an interesting aspect of the law.

Has Harvey Weinstein been convicted of any crimes yet? I’m aware various allegations have been made. I read it in the paper.

Is your post #60 where you mention what allegation has been made the same as my posts?

Were they made in court? Or in America? Different laws apply.

Libel laws in the US are much less restrictive than in the UK, because of First Amendment rights to freedom of speech. This is one reason why the Me Too movement and other contemporary “outings” of alleged sex crimes have been centred in the US.

It’s also one reason why the 45th inhabitant of the Oval Office has, so far, been able to lie to his electorate daily with impunity. And why, conversely, his attempts to block people he disagrees with on Twatter have been deemed illegal:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/business/media/trump-twitter-block.html

Twat.

 

[Revolution]

The Judgment of Fancourt J says the following at para 33:

"The matters of complaint...are...breaches of fiduciary duty in relation to a loan transaction with Charwell Investments Limited".

That much can be stated by anyone without fear of any libel action, such as it is.

 

[The Crab]

can't use a U boat in Moscow mate

Elon Musk would try.....................

 

[GrayBlade]

Is there anything at all new to read here that we didn’t already know weeks ago?

Looks to me like Fatty Samuels has put this together for his journo mate because he doesn’t like all the good news coming out of the club.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Though the answer is unclear, there are convincing arguments in favour... Surprisingly, there is no answer on the issue in statute or in case law. The fact that someone as eminent as Hugh Tomlinson QC thinks this is an issue that needs to be addressed demonstrates that the current law is unsatisfactory – but for the foreseeable future, this is an uncertainty that journalists just have to live with.

That was also four years ago ST. Would you take the risk?

As a jounallist? No. Newspapers have money. Lawyers like money.

 

[stringer]

Newspapers have money.

 

[Bartleby]

He’s not really a pig, he’s Frank Barlow’s son so watched them as a kid, he’s been in London all his adult life and is more of a Chelsea fan than anything as he’s reported on them for that long.

Yeah, I retracted that bit in a later post.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Hence the new career as an author/biographer?

 

[stringer]

Hence the new career as an author/biographer?

Hopefully not. Luckily the two can co-exist