Ben Mee

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I agree but as above, it will be the same formation. Personally I'd drop McGuiness and start Mee. We are desperate for leadership it's so blindingly obvious.

Tanganga looks class. Looks like he will be one of our best big money signings so far.

Burrows I have faith will come good, but again he looks short of confidence.

Godfrey... Where to start. Needs to be sent back to Italy ASAP, he's absolutely woeful. Literally his only redeeming attribute is pace. Seems a nice kid but games of football aren't won because players are sound blokes.

On two occasions yesterday - maybe more but let's be honest the game was very forgettable - the ball was in the air and he looked like a headless chicken trying to judge the travel of it. Also gets beaten alarmingly easy in one on one situations. Teams are clearly targeting that right flank, I'd definitely have Seriki over Godfrey.
 
I agree but as above, it will be the same formation. Personally I'd drop McGuiness and start Mee. We are desperate for leadership it's so blindingly obvious.

Tanganga looks class. Looks like he will be one of our best big money signings so far.

Burrows I have faith will come good, but again he looks short of confidence.

Godfrey... Where to start. Needs to be sent back to Italy ASAP, he's absolutely woeful. Literally his only redeeming attribute is pace. Seems a nice kid but games of football aren't won because players are sound blokes.

On two occasions yesterday - maybe more but let's be honest the game was very forgettable - the ball was in the air and he looked like a headless chicken trying to judge the travel of it. Also gets beaten alarmingly easy in one on one situations. Teams are clearly targeting that right flank, I'd definitely have Seriki over Godfrey.
I've a feeling we'll be stuck with him for the season, probably as the highest earner in our squad.
Atalanta have had our pants down on this one and couldn't believe their luck getting rid of him.
They'll be in no rush to have him back
 
I've a feeling we'll be stuck with him for the season, probably as the highest earner in our squad.
Atalanta have had our pants down on this one and couldn't believe their luck getting rid of him.
They'll be in no rush to have him back
I don't understand where the hype was around him in the first place. This guy has actually represented England at full senior level! It's crazy.
 
I would add im not saying defence is our biggest worry that it clearly creating and taking chances bit we are bit fooked on that.
 
Maybe he is better than some on here think ?

So far he's not shown anything to suggest he is. His failure to carry out even the most basic defensive duties is glaringly obvious, unless you're just playing devils advocate of course 😉

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If you want a solid defence with a "they shall not pass" attitude, then Mee is your man. Don't worry about pace, he never had much.

If you want ticky tacky passing round the back, then he isn't your man. His job is stopping goals going in. Pretty football is someone else's job.

Did you see this video? (only 15 seconds)

 
If you want a solid defence with a "they shall not pass" attitude, then Mee is your man. Don't worry about pace, he never had much.

If you want ticky tacky passing round the back, then he isn't your man. His job is stopping goals going in. Pretty football is someone else's job.

Did you see this video? (only 15 seconds)


That's class, but whole we're thinking that's very "john Terry"... Robinson did that as well.
Love to see it though.
 
Maybe he is better than some on here think ?
Ben Godfrey got two caps for England, debut in April 2021 then the second in June 2021. He then contracted Covid in the summer of 2021 and was seriously ill with it. He's spoken about the impact that's had on him as it's affected his pace and stamina: https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/21-22/news/41367.html

To me, he's a player used to being able to outpace his opponent either going forward or defending. He's not got that any more and his confidence is absolutely shot as a result. Sadly for him I can't see any way it will improve.
 

Get him in, let's hope wilder doesn't see him as another Holding
Mee might not be the quickest but he is still fit and the experience he has makes up that extra pace, the leadership and communications skills he has too are what we need at the back if we go to 3 CB's then fine but at very least a partnership of Mee and Tanganga would be a very solid paring.
 
Something I also missed out with Mee being an assistant coach previously, I wonder what work he is being allowed to be doing at the training ground such as defensive coach as playing him as almost a player coach type role is only going to better us in the long run with the longer term projects we have.
 
Not too struck on McGuiness either…I thought he was Bindon for the first 20 minutes…Another lanky streak of piss.
Turns like an oil tanker and mistimed his jump for a header a few times - he’s a very limited player. Might be okay in a back 3.
 
Turns like an oil tanker and mistimed his jump for a header a few times - he’s a very limited player. Might be okay in a back 3.
Ben Mee managed to survive over 260 games in the Premier League!!!! I’d be more than happy to make him Captain and play him every week.. very unlikely he’ll behave like a headless chicken! McGuinness was a bit scary on Saturday
 
Not too struck on McGuiness either…I thought he was Bindon for the first 20 minutes…Another lanky streak of piss.
I was looking at his legs, shins specifically, when he was down at our end. Reminded me of Bash/Richard Stearman quite a bit. How did those two get away with being lanky streaks of piss? Was it simply by having big fucker JOC alongside?
 
Turns like an oil tanker and mistimed his jump for a header a few times - he’s a very limited player. Might be okay in a back 3.
He did that at least twice at Ipswich too. Being able to read the flight of the ball is a key requirement for a centre half and McGuinness seems to be almost completely lacking in it.
 
id make ben mee captain and play him from the start hes a leader he will get us going and steady the ship try him out gaffer and play 352 v oxford your ex club away next match its just a thought hes no good warming the bench needs games buddy and play 2 up top please pal..utb.. .. ,,
 
I would add im not saying defence is our biggest worry that it clearly creating and taking chances bit we are bit fooked on that.
This is a big point IMO.

As a former defender/GK at grass roots level, a defence can only keep things tight for so long.

If the midfield/forwards cant keep hold of the ball, there's a hell of a lot of pressure on the defence and keeper, to keep things out.
 
Move Tanganga back to right CB, bring in Mee at left CB. Seriki RB, Burrows LB.
I'd also play Soumare in front of them as Vini did on ocassion last season.
Mee would bring the experience, calmness and organisation at the back.
Soumare would offer that extra layer of protection in front of the back four, and has the athleticism to get up the pitch and join in with attacks when we have the ball too.
I don't think we would miss McGuinness' height too much as he's already shown himself to be a poor judge of the flight of the ball!
 
We need the experience in there, someone to get a grip of the back four. Try Soumare in the Souza role, with Matos at his side, love Peck, but just not there at the moment. Sought the back six out, stop conceding first, then push on further up the field.
 
I was looking at his legs, shins specifically, when he was down at our end. Reminded me of Bash/Richard Stearman quite a bit. How did those two get away with being lanky streaks of piss? Was it simply by having big fucker JOC alongside?
Bash’s stature defied all logic. He looked like Bambi with the defensive instinct of Baresi.
 
We need the experience in there, someone to get a grip of the back four. Try Soumare in the Souza role, with Matos at his side, love Peck, but just not there at the moment. Sought the back six out, stop conceding first, then push on further up the field.
Yes I agree about Peck, he works his arse off but he never seeks to break the defensive lines with a forward pass. Although Soumare’s footballing prowess has been amplified by merely sitting on the bench, I think he’s well worth a try against Oxford.
 

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