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[LondonBlade89]

It's not the "lies" or "fiction" section of the forum though.

A lot of football rumours are lies/fiction.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Gerrem all in FFS. The more the merrier

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

Quick to inbox me for any info though aren’t you.

He’s had your pants down there brother jono_t2000

 

[Le Cynique]

It's not the "lies" or "fiction" section of the forum though.

It is if you look at it from a de facto point of view rather than de jure

 

[ekke287]

I use this very thread title to initiate sex with my wife.

 

[MosboroughBlade]

 

[LondonBlade89]

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Bettis no doubt getting hard over the reference to a “bright idea”.

 

[designedbyross]

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That’s a pretty good deal if true

 

[T-Blade]

i think rifleman could be 50% right still think 2 loans will come in before the end of the window but i also think our 1 permanent signing very much depends on whether villa lower their valuation of cameron archer if they dont that money will be saved for january

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But I thought we didn’t have any money .

 

[Gin&Juice]

But I thought we didn’t have any money .

Ya what La?

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Stunning turn of events if that's right - sounds too good to be true. If we stay up it'll mean Archer has proved himself and we've got him for a decent price, if we go down we essentially had him for free for a year and Villa give us a modest top-up on the parachute payment. What's the catch?!

 

[ekke287]

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Is that supposed to be written by a professional writer? It doesn’t read very well even if it’s only headlines.

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

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Interesting if true.
The penultimate paragraph gave me the wobbles when I read it - complex deal, looks like a loan but it isn’t, clubs will argue their case.....if we fill our available loan slots and do this on top, then you can bet that the Daily Fail will be all over it.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Is that supposed to be written by a professional writer? It doesn’t read very well even if it’s only headlines.

His stuff in the Sun will go through a copy editing process before it's published. On his Patreon it's just him. Hell of a lot of journalists can't write for shit, but that's only half the job.

 

[MosboroughBlade]

Is that supposed to be written by a professional writer? It doesn’t read very well even if it’s only headlines.

What is wrong with what he has written? It's not tales from the Bard.

 

[Yogi]

Interesting if true.
The penultimate paragraph gave me the wobbles when I read it - complex deal, looks like a loan but it isn’t, clubs will argue their case.....if we fill our available loan slots and do this on top, then you can bet that the Daily Fail will be all over it.

Tough they’d have to make the case that buy back clauses aren’t allowed and given that they’re hardly a new thing they’ll have a job on

 

[Jan Age]

El Accounto saying our net spend is currently around 6m so you’re not far off there. Funny thing is when this rumoured 20m budget was talked about El Accounto was saying it wasn’t true but trying to put a positive spin on it so it came across we had more.

Then we deffo should be excepting more signing a then….

If we don’t I think it’s demonstrations against the board.

We will all accept cutting out cloth accordingly but at least give us a fighting chance

 

[T-Blade]

Stunning turn of events if that's right - sounds too good to be true. If we stay up it'll mean Archer has proved himself and we've got him for a decent price, if we go down we essentially had him for free for a year and Villa give us a modest top-up on the parachute payment. What's the catch?!

The main worry for us has always been we don’t want another Brewster situation this way we cover ourselves. I guess the catch is until we’re safe from relegation long term he’s not our player.

 

[AaronSufc]

If we stay up would the buy back change? Or will it then not apply?

 

[loveWalrusDaveTheBlade]

Tough they’d have to make the case that buy back clauses aren’t allowed and given that they’re hardly a new thing they’ll have a job on

Agreed - it’s probably just paranoia on my part, but I don’t see many standard buy-back clauses described as an “elaborate scheme”.

 

[Davalon]

Why would Villa agree to this?

Take off the Blades blind faith and rose tinted specs and they're quite likely paying us to have their player for a season with a slight chance they get 18 mill.

Surely there's better options out there for them.

But hey if true, you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[WeareBlades]

That's an unbelievable deal if true, only downfall I could see would be him scoring twenty goals and we still go down.

 

[jono_t2000]

Essentially a loan with an obligation to buy (if stay up) but without using one of our domestic loan spots.

Have to think we already got 2 domestic loans ready to push go on if this is the case.

 

[mcbladeface]

It's a neat idea but there's obviously a few head scratchers. Would they be obliged to buy him back? For arguments sake, say he has a bad season or whatever and we go down, could they decide not to leave him with us?

 

[TJ blade]

Wouldn’t be surprised at all at no more permanent incomings, expecting a couple of loans on deadline day or there abouts.

I think if that's the case we might be looking for another manager, it's only my opinion but I don't trust these fuckers at the top one bit!!

 

[Rocket Man]

Why would Villa agree to this?

Take off the Blades blind faith and rose tinted specs and they're quite likely paying us to have their player for a season with a slight chance they get 18 mill.

Surely there's better options out there for them.

But hey if true, you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

The buy back arrangement wording could still mean a few things, could mean that we go down and they can have him back for 18m + 'x'm if they want him (they may not). If they want him back then it's probably because he has played well and his price tag will have gone up so that scenario is a negative one for us. The amount they have to pay to have him back could be performance related. 10 goals could add 5m etc. Hoping there is no buyback if we do stay up. Betis obviously has his hands all over the numbers on this and I can imagine it having a lot of stipulations.

 

[Rocket Man]

It's a neat idea but there's obviously a few head scratchers. Would they be obliged to buy him back? For arguments sake, say he has a bad season or whatever and we go down, could they decide not to leave him with us?

I reckon it won't be mandatory but for e.g. the buy back option is say only 20% increase so essentially the 'loan' word can be used by media to say he could be back the other way after a year

 

[ekke287]

What is wrong with what he has written? It's not tales from the Bard.

It doesn’t read well, but as stated above it’s not been proof read.

That’s my error, I assumed he was a professional writer or had some sort of proofing process even on his Patreon.

 

[Rocket Man]

Essentially a loan with an obligation to buy (if stay up) but without using one of our domestic loan spots.

Have to think we already got 2 domestic loans ready to push go on if this is the case.

Think we will be making the first down-payment on 18m as soon as the deal goes through so maths wise if they want him back they will probably owe us say 5m not the full 18m

 

[8lade]

Why would Villa agree to this?

Are they on the edge with FFP? This would certainly muddy the waters.