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When I think about it Basset gave me some of my best times as a blade. Can't remember which away match it was but Remember him being carried shoulder high by us blades. Always remember him with the silly grin on his face and his arm pumping the air.
We had some great unforgettable times under him, is he really 72?

Great bloke and great times.
 



Well, sorry DD, Tufty is one of those who preaches the "right way" along with all the top managers, coaches and players. Everyone out of step but you, you discredited, redundant hoofer?

When the great Bill Shankly (a proper football legend, whose laces you are not fit to tie) spoke of Southampton playing "alehouse football" he could scarcely have known that you were to drag the idea a couple of steps further down into the murky depths of anti-football. Even a bit of praise for Charlie Hughes! My Pele, dinosaurs can't adapt but they sure die hard, don't though?...

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People slagging off Bassett should look at what he achieved. He gave me my best years as a Blade. I can remember when he was appointed, I was appalled because of the style of play, but as he says in the interview, good football is winning football. He is a true legend for our football club, i think one of only a dozen or so who can be called this. A true giant in the history of our club and he should be respected as such irrespective of your views on his style of football.

I am still playing footie and if he was my manager I would do anything he asked me to to get a result...............because I know that he knows better than me. Something that some of the sages on here fail to accept can happen.
 
Well, sorry DD, Tufty is one of those who preaches the "right way" along with all the top managers, coaches and players. Everyone out of step but you, you discredited, redundant hoofer?

When the great Bill Shankly (a proper football legend, whose laces you are not fit to tie) spoke of Southampton playing "alehouse football" he could scarcely have known that you were to drag the idea a couple of steps further down into the murky depths of anti-football. Even a bit of praise for Charlie Hughes! My Pele, dinosaurs can't adapt but they sure die hard, don't though?...

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I'm playing Dickhead Bingo with this thread, luckily he's got me on ignore so it'll work better.

I'm going for a line of 5

"Diplodocus Dave"
"Grotesque alehouse hoof"
"Parochial S2"
"Some shit about Nick Montgomery"
"Tufty"

4 out of 5 in one post.

Not quite a full house, but enough to prove what a boring self-parody he is.
 
raul has the copyright on that one. Credit to him.

I applaud the imagery of raining footballs but not sure it has the correct associations if I'm honest. The proponents of hoof walk among us. They're fifth columnists in an ongoing struggle, not an invading force.

If you know the enemy you need not fear the result of a hundred battles...
 
I applaud the imagery of raining footballs but not sure it has the correct associations if I'm honest. The proponents of hoof walk among us. They're fifth columnists in an ongoing struggle, not an invading force.

If you know the enemy you need not fear the result of a hundred battles...

People also forget that the Luftwaffe was the modern, well equipped, tactically adept air force at the outbreak of war.
 
Dave Bassett was the right man at the right time.

A top manager, at the peak of his powers. I'd say he was well ahead of the game when it came to innovation and using new technology, and although some people say that his tactics might have been crude but they was ultimately tactics that won football matches, and he would have his players running through brick walls for him. It was common knowledge that players were expected to run through brick walls for Bassett. Back in 1988 we was a club in the doldrums, the board was a disparate bunch with Brearley looking to sell, and around the time we had crooks like Woolhouse and Hinchcliffe involved with the club, we had sub 10k attendances every week, and was bound for the third tier. What Bassett did was cut his cloth accordingly, build his own team with some savage butchery of the squad he inherited and brought in his own players who he knew would do a better job, and in the space of two years he dragged the club kicking and screaming out of the backwaters of Division Three where we had been in severe danger of becoming just another set of provincial, lower league also rans, in to a force to be feared in the top flight.

Ultimately it went wrong for Bassett for 2 reasons, and both of them non footballing reasons. The first was the Paul Woolhouse fiasco where he disappeared after being unable to pay for the club, and taking a lot of revenue out of the club, which lead to the return of Reg Brearley who pushed through the sale of one of the finest centre forwards in the country in Brian Deane, and didn't allow Bassett the right money to rebuild the club which it needed after the sale. Some money was used to bring in Tuttle, Falconer and Flo in the summer of 1993 but that wasn't enough to be stay up and remain competitve with the new money in the top flight, and we signed Nathan Blake a few weeks to late. Secondly when Mike McDonald took over the club, Bassett and United had been paying the price of years of boardroom unrest, with a three sided ground and a squad who had then began to pay the rise of chronic under investment and was in grave danger of dropping out of the second tier.

Football is often a game of ifs and maybes, and in the case of Bassett that much is very true. If the board hadn't sanctioned the sale of Brian Deane and found the money to enable Bassett to keep us in the top flight we could have gone from strength to strength in the top flight, and if MacDonald had kept Bassett instead of deciding that he wanted his own man in charge, then i think Bassett would have done what Kendall failed to to, and that was build a side to take us back to the top flight. In 1995 Bassett himself had grown weary of the boardroom troubles, and still remained a top manager as he still subsequently enjoyed a lot of success in his managerial career. He might not have been to everyones taste, but like Warnock and like Wilder appears to be now, he was very much the ideal man for United, and if things had panned out differently he could potentially have done a lot longer here and brought a lot more success than we have had during the 20 last years.
 
Two successive promotions culminating on that day, May 5th 1990 at Leicester gives him the legendary status.

Let's hope one of his former players can repeat the feat, starting with an away match at Milton Keynes and then not messing about with all this 'let's consolidate in the Championship' stuff.
And the great escape, which made three of the best seasons you could ever imagine. My first three seasons as a regular. It made me think anything was possible. Love sir Harry for daring me to believe we could achieve. Only later do you realise quite how against the odds it all was. Look at the Leeds team we finished on the same points as to get promoted and how much they spent to add to the home grown jewels of Speed and Batty. I bet Strachan and Vinny earnt similar to our first eleven.
 
Very entertaining article, thanks for posting lawlessdan .

Anyone who watched the Blades during the awful McEwan era, knows that Bassett performed miracles to take us from the then Division 3 to Division 1 in successive seasons.

We were a poor side with poor players, no money, no confidence and no hope when he came in and within 2-3 seasons, somehow he turned us into a competitive first division side beating the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd.
I was fortunate enough to not really be aware how bad we were. I went to the odd game and bought the green un but was only old enough to go under my own steam in the third division starting with smashing Newcastle 3-0 in the cup. They spent more on a couple of players than we did over the next three years. I think they had spent big on beasant and thorn (£700k each) and was the first Brazilian in the U.K. Mirandaha in that team?
 



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That was a big ugly palace team that came third
 
Saint Lord Daves style was direct , not hoof, get it out to the wing men and let them get it to Deane and Agana, All his sides had flair layers mixed in with the hard workers like Jones and Booker, players like Hodges, Jock, Wood, Gannon etc. Every player had an ability to put in a decent cross. The football could be a hard watch if it wasn`t working, exciting more often than not when it was.... get the ball and get players in the opposition box... something alien to young master clough etc. scoring goals is far easier when we are zinging balls into the opposition box than playing around pretty wi` it in our own half.

The defenders didn`t faff about , if it needed lumping to relieve pressure then that`s the way to go. Too many teams cause their own problems these days by pissing about at the back.

Thanks Dave for some great years.

Wilder has a nice mix of football and directness, i doubt whether he wants us to piss about wi` ball in the back line. And though the rugby park bobble at cov may have been responsible for the EEL/moore mix up last thursday...that and Lafferty`s failure to lump the ball clear before they scored are examples that the proper way to play isn`t always on the ground, get it bloody clear!
 
To bring a bit of perspective, I saw some awful games under sir Harry. However, those teams did not lie down which is something we demand. I also saw us beat Wendy home and away, beat Liverpool and Man Utd without good fortune and smash spurs 6-0 in a game that seems to have been erased from football by sky whose salesmanship of the modern game doesn't like the fact that such occurrences make the game as amazing as it is.

Also a big nod to discovering and nurturing Deano whom I am still slightly in love with
 
Well, sorry DD, Tufty is one of those who preaches the "right way" along with all the top managers, coaches and players. Everyone out of step but you, you discredited, redundant hoofer?

When the great Bill Shankly (a proper football legend, whose laces you are not fit to tie) spoke of Southampton playing "alehouse football" he could scarcely have known that you were to drag the idea a couple of steps further down into the murky depths of anti-football. Even a bit of praise for Charlie Hughes! My Pele, dinosaurs can't adapt but they sure die hard, don't though?...

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Case closed.
 
One of the saddest things on this forum is the character assassination of Dave Bassett especially by someone who appears intelligent.

Dave Bassett gave me as a young boy and growing into a teenager the best era of my lifetime watching the Blades.

Arguably his achievements with us were on a par with Leicester last season and go generally unrecognised in Football due to the fact most of it happened pre Premier League.
 
Dave Bassett was the right man at the right time.

A top manager, at the peak of his powers. I'd say he was well ahead of the game when it came to innovation and using new technology, and although some people say that his tactics might have been crude but they was ultimately tactics that won football matches, and he would have his players running through brick walls for him.

The main critics of the likes of Bassett, Wimbledon and Warnock are the 'top' sides who think teams should just lay down and die when facing them. As you say, DB - far from being a 'dinosaur' - was actually ahead of his time. Never able to afford the top players as Liverpool and Man. U did back then, he 'cut his cloth accordingly'. What the players lacked in skill, they made up for in hard work, stamina and determination. The number of times DB's Wimbledon and Blades turned over the top teams is more than coincidence. But football in this country has always been in thrall of those who have their 'badges', wear a nice blazer and don't cause trouble. That's why Southgate is an ideal England manager and that's why England will never win a major trophy again.

You only have to listen to Shearer and Gullit spout on MoTD. Good players both, but fucking disasters in management.

Ultimately it went wrong for Bassett for 2 reasons, and both of them non footballing reasons. The first was the Paul Woolhouse fiasco where he disappeared after being unable to pay for the club, and taking a lot of revenue out of the club, which lead to the return of Reg Brearley who pushed through the sale of one of the finest centre forwards in the country in Brian Deane, and didn't allow Bassett the right money to rebuild the club which it needed after the sale. Some money was used to bring in Tuttle, Falconer and Flo in the summer of 1993 but that wasn't enough to be stay up and remain competitve with the new money in the top flight, and we signed Nathan Blake a few weeks to late. Secondly when Mike McDonald took over the club, Bassett and United had been paying the price of years of boardroom unrest, with a three sided ground and a squad who had then began to pay the rise of chronic under investment and was in grave danger of dropping out of the second tier.

With Covgate less than a week ago, it's good to remind some (including some of our younger supporters) of exactly how bad the situation was at United back then. And this has continued until fairly recently with shysters like Terry Robinson and Trevor Birch. The only consolation for us few who could still be bothered to go back then - and look at the pile of mud that stood along John Street - was that Wednesday didn't run away from us.

So it's not just Coventry who think they have a God-given right to whine about what is happening to their club. Basset, Warnock - and hopefully Wilder - rode to the rescue of our club and never forget it.
 
One of the saddest things on this forum is the character assassination of Dave Bassett especially by someone who appears intelligent.

Dave Bassett gave me as a young boy and growing into a teenager the best era of my lifetime watching the Blades.

Arguably his achievements with us were on a par with Leicester last season and go generally unrecognised in Football due to the fact most of it happened pre Premier League.

All Blades have to remember and appreciate what Harry brought to BDTBL in both on and off the field . We all watch some great football . It always makes me smile if Liverpool hit a 40 yard pass it was great football , if we did , it was long ball shit . One rule for one and all that shit . The mind does play tricks and we also played some dross and it all turned sour with Bassett with the fans shouting for his head . Had Harry and the board lost the plot , with Harry being the fall guy .

It's easy on hindsight to criticise Bassett , but truth be known he was at the Lane , right place at the right time .

We are not Norwich , Southampton , Swansea , we are Sheffield United . Let's remember that , cut out the smart cracks and appreciate we played the Bassett , Hughes high tenacity pressing games years ago .

For me the bloke has to remembered with respect .

UTB
 
We were on our arse weren't we. Those dirty bastards in the top division, no money, the supporters had no money, recession following recession, high unemployment. The mid eighties was pretty shit all round.

I suppose quite similar to the austerity years we're going through now, but a much bigger shock as people still believed in a 'job for life', particularly in the white collar sector which had never seen mass redundancy.

United, being in those days a predominantly working class club suffered badly; the combination of fans being skint, the violence around the games and the associated heavy policing led to poor attendances and poor gate receipts.

And, with this background, Harry turned up and took us back to the top division. And perhaps saved us from being a Notts County/Bristol Rovers type small club with a big city rival.

I was only 16 in 1987 so I didn't really relate football to economics at the time, but of course, you're absolutely right.
 
I was fortunate enough to not really be aware how bad we were. I went to the odd game and bought the green un but was only old enough to go under my own steam in the third division starting with smashing Newcastle 3-0 in the cup. They spent more on a couple of players than we did over the next three years. I think they had spent big on beasant and thorn (£700k each) and was the first Brazilian in the U.K. Mirandaha in that team?

I think it's fair to say that under Porterfield we'd become a side that could play good football on it's day but there were weaknesses, particularly being a bit 'soft' so we could get bullied by bigger and more physical sides. A lot of fans were not happy as in the North we like our players to "get stuck in". Ironically, Bassett created a side that was the total opposite and certainly did "get stuck in", but of course that didn't please everyone either. Billy McEwan took over from Porterfield. promptly fell out with top scorer, Edwards, who promptly left and set about making us a far worse side than we had been, although obviously he had no money to work with. The only highlights were provided by Peter Beagrie, who occasionally dazzled on the wing. By the time Bassett took over, we were awful, regularly capitulating, which culminated in the 0-5 home defeat to Oldham (I think it was 0-5 at half-time too - someone will confirm).
 
I think it's fair to say that under Porterfield we'd become a side that could play good football on it's day but there were weaknesses, particularly being a bit 'soft' so we could get bullied by bigger and more physical sides. A lot of fans were not happy as in the North we like our players to "get stuck in". Ironically, Bassett created a side that was the total opposite and certainly did "get stuck in", but of course that didn't please everyone either. Billy McEwan took over from Porterfield. promptly fell out with top scorer, Edwards, who promptly left and set about making us a far worse side than we had been, although obviously he had no money to work with. The only highlights were provided by Peter Beagrie, who occasionally dazzled on the wing. By the time Bassett took over, we were awful, regularly capitulating, which culminated in the 0-5 home defeat to Oldham (I think it was 0-5 at half-time too - someone will confirm).

I think it was 3-0 at the break. I remember at least one goal at the Kop end in the second half (they kicked towards Bramall Lane in the first half).

We drew 1-1 at home to Villa on Boxing Day - a decent result as they were promoted - but then lost 3-1 at Millwall and 4-1 at Blackburn before the Oldham debacle. It could have been more at Blackburn but Leaning played well for once and kept the score down. Mendonca scored the consolation goals in both games.

That Oldham performance remains the worst performance I have ever seen from a United team.
 
I was fortunate enough to not really be aware how bad we were. I went to the odd game and bought the green un but was only old enough to go under my own steam in the third division starting with smashing Newcastle 3-0 in the cup. They spent more on a couple of players than we did over the next three years. I think they had spent big on beasant and thorn (£700k each) and was the first Brazilian in the U.K. Mirandaha in that team?

He was. They also had John Robertson and Kevin Brock signed for big money. Robertson was a disaster like Thorn and Beasant and was back at Hearts very quickly. Brock played pretty well, but their spending generally that season was a disaster.
 
Well, sorry DD, Tufty is one of those who preaches the "right way" along with all the top managers, coaches and players. Everyone out of step but you, you discredited, redundant hoofer?

When the great Bill Shankly (a proper football legend, whose laces you are not fit to tie) spoke of Southampton playing "alehouse football" he could scarcely have known that you were to drag the idea a couple of steps further down into the murky depths of anti-football. Even a bit of praise for Charlie Hughes! My Pele, dinosaurs can't adapt but they sure die hard, don't though?...

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Worth noting that when he was rombing to the first division title with Forest in 98 with Van Hooijdonk up front, they played some fantastic football.


He wasn’t all about hoof. He was all about winning. Our very limited resources meant that our “up an at em” style allowed us to punch above our weight and cause problems for far more talented and more expensively assembled teams. As he said, there weren’t too many complaining when we were beating Man United, Liverpool, pigs, smashing Spurs for 6 etc.


His methods may be outdated and SOME of his football was unattractive but for his time, he was a very good manager who had success at a number of clubs. Let’s also remember that he procured some great players over the years for us too. Deane, Agana, Hodges, Kelly, Tracey etc.
 



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