i3lade4life
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Lets hope its a good omen for a good transfer
Lets hope its a good omen for a good transfer
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gregblade
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When I read it, I actually though we'd signed Naughton back on loan! Oh well! haha
SotonBlade
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i think he's let the cat out of the bag on that one
tomtheblade
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Cresswell....why??
I can't stand signing players who you know are just going to become deadwood which we will then be lumbered with trying to offload onto someone else in the near future.
Tonge, Fortune- no thanks.
Naughton, Kallio, Halford- yes please
I can't stand signing players who you know are just going to become deadwood which we will then be lumbered with trying to offload onto someone else in the near future.
Tonge, Fortune- no thanks.
Naughton, Kallio, Halford- yes please
JohnDenver
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He's cheap.
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"If we don't sell then we wont buy"
What happened when he sat down with Blackwell and agreed the investment needed for an assault on promotion?
The more McCabe speaks, the more I'm let down buy him. I could cope with "we're in the mire and need to cut costs". Please stop with the endless drivel about investment and being a massive club, and tell us how it is.
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What happened when he sat down with Blackwell and agreed the investment needed for an assault on promotion?
The more McCabe speaks, the more I'm let down buy him. I could cope with "we're in the mire and need to cut costs". Please stop with the endless drivel about investment and being a massive club, and tell us how it is.
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the talk was of half a million - which given his age, wages and quality, is an "amazing" bit of business for a club with fuck all cash.
It can't possibly be true, can it?
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JohnDenver
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My understanding was that it's a "nominal fee". I just don't think we've £1/2m to spend on anyone without selling first.
If we do spend some real cash I'd like too think we'll be buying promising players from the lower divisions or abroad. If Davies' price is £750k then it's hard to see any value to be had from the higher leagues.
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KB understands that KW is here till the end of the season!
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Would you rather they both come out in the press on January 1st and said.... "right then lads, we've got £X to spend this January"?
Any player we are interested in would instantly increase in value and his team would play hard ball...
If we make it sound like a struggle to make any signings they are less likely to.
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If that's the case then I'll gladly eat humble pie, but in reality I'll be eating my hat.
We had it after the summer when McCabe tried to big up our transfers (heaping pressure on a poor Evans), and hoped we'd all conveniently forget that he'd sold half our defence and raked in £10M.
It's far too transparent now to be defended, IMHO.
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JohnDenver
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A couple of loanees could represent significant expenditure for us. I don't recall McCabe's exact words, but whatever he said, we have to accept that what we deemed "significant" a year ago is multiples of what the same word means now.
SwissBlade
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I'd rather there was a bit more honesty all round from the club. Or if they don't want to show their hand, better say nowt.
I know we've struggled in the past couple of years as clubs have probably seen Sheff Utd on the Fax/ Telex and put a couple of 00's on the price as have the agents because they knew we had parachute payments and we're a stable club. But we need 2 or 3 QUALITY players in their prime to help build a settled team IF we're planning to make a serious effort at promotion.
We need players with drive and determination... I don't think Tonge or Cresswell have this...
As much as I have ooodles of respect for McCabe and the string pullers and as much as I think Blackie is doing the right job with the team... they don't half come out with some rubbish.
What we've got is a Promotion push on a shoestring with a completely threadbare squad, filled with loanees and ultimately an unsettled team.
We've had little stability at the club this season due to injuries and loans. How many games this season have we started two games with the same team? I can't recall a single game!
Ok the number of injuries has been something unexpected, but we still have a barebones squad.
I'm still positive we can make 6th place come May. But what if we have a half decent cup run, with replays? We'll be running a small squad into the ground and if we do make the play off final we'll be running on empty (YET AGAIN)
What I wanted to hear was that we're building a squad for a promotion push, not that if we don't sell we won't buy.
Edit: Oh and we need to get our quality players on reasonable and realistic contracts so we don't lose them on a free or on the cheap eg Killa, Michael Brown...
This doesn't mean that I want Blackie to bankrupt us and chuck all our eggs into one basket for this season, then end up flogging the family silver next season to rescue us from Administration and/ or relegation. I just want us to make some funds available (money set aside for WC 2018 development of South Stand? Kyles Money? Tevez Money?) to get a couple of permanent signings in!
Happy New Year!
Kev Gee
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Whatever happened to the policy of signing young hungry players who will be an investment?
I dont see signing players the wrong side of 30 as following the policy?
But nowadays i believe that if you hear Blackwell say something, then the complete opposite will be true.
I dont see signing players the wrong side of 30 as following the policy?
But nowadays i believe that if you hear Blackwell say something, then the complete opposite will be true.
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Probably a good job, any youngsters we do sign are slated and abused.
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I don't recall young Jamie Ward being slated and abused to any significant level. Perhaps that's because he's actually quite good?
Young Chedwyn, however, does receive a fair degree of slating and abuse. Perhaps that's because he's actually quite shit?
i3lade4life
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I recall a large ammount of abuse being hurled at the Ward signing. A lot of people said he wasnt what we were looking for and was un-established.
JohnDenver
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Today's challenge... List those players whose careers at BDTBL started inauspiciously but who went on to be very good indeed.
Kilgallon was very flakey in first year.
Nicky Marker looked a reyt pudding for a while.
Gary Naysmith was consistently poor for his first six months.
More?
There will always be some criticism because, as the old saying goes, you cannot please all of the people all of the time.
Our dealings in the transfer market frustrate me far less then the constant flow of conflicting information coming out of BDTBL.
First it's only players for the future, then it's substantial funds available, then it's players not leaving, then it's cutting our cloth accordingly, then it's selling before buying, then it's selling and not buying.
I've come to expect that, even with a very good chairman like the one we currently have, while ever we are not in the premiership our most promising players / sellable assets will be sold and replaced with workmen like equivalents.
I suppose it's an indication of how well the likes of Warnock and Blackwell have done that they manage to build relatively successful teams with such a policy in place.
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What's he on about?
broomhillblade
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1. Bob Booker. He went from someone who apparently could not get off the ground to head the ball - to club legend.
2. The Shipperley signing wasn't popular but he soon won the fans round.
3. Back in the 80s - Simon Webster.
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He's just displaying his intolerable self importance as per.
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The main trouble with that is when we try to get them to sign a "reasonable and cheap" contract they decide they can get an unreasonable and expensive contract elsewhere and don't sign. Like Killa and Brown, for example.
I'd love to see Killa stay, but not at massive wages. So when he finds out via his agent that (insert club name here) are willing to double his wages, he's not going to sign for United, is he?
As for getting Tonge on loan, why? Has he improved since we sold him? No. So if he wasn't good enough for us then, why is he now?
SwissBlade
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Very True Shorehamview, but we managed to get these lads in in the first place so its even more frustrating that when were the team that made them into the players that they are that they then show little loyalty. Albeit in Killa's case, he signed for a manager in the PL, 2 regimes back... but its still the same club...
We've now got a media "he said/ she said" between Blackie and Wardy's agent, which I can somehow see ending in tears...
I do like the theory of the "7 day" thinking time that Killa's been given. It could be a case of like we had with Paddy, where he MAY just realise that the concrete offers aren't all they're cracked up to be... either that or he'll be off in a shot!
Why can't every player be like Jags?
As for Tonge. Totally agree. We'd waste time and money getting him back in.
JohnDenver
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I agree, but wouldn't it be interesting to see him play for a decent passing team? Donny or West Brom perhaps. Just to find out how good a player he could have been.
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4. Wayne Allison - Looked fat, unfit and very poor when we first saw him play. Then he became a pretty useful asset. Admittadly he stayed fat and unfit but certainly improved!
What leaving at the first opportunity of talking to another team?
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