Another Poll - who's it going to be
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SteelCity Blade
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Pemberton. I just think everything seems to point towards him at this stage. The club have done very well to keep the whole process quiet but I think that's the biggest clue to indicate it will be Pembo.....what with the youth cup final and everything.
BladeHearts
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I cant see it how it will possibly be anyone other than Pembo now.
SteelCity Blade
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A poster on the star website is claiming Reid will get it and Pembo will be no.2 (and keep a hand in the academy still presumably) with a view to taking over from Reid in a couple of years. Reid will then move upstairs to become a DOF.....so this poster says anyway.
I never believe ITK stuff but the suggestion doesn't seem too far fetched. Make of it what you will.
I never believe ITK stuff but the suggestion doesn't seem too far fetched. Make of it what you will.
Jim Chimmerney
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The more we talk about this and discuss every name as and when they're 'nailed on' to get it, it seems clear that there aren't many out there who fit our 'criteria', are available, within our budget and most people would be happy with. Given that this appointment is supposedly going to galvanise the club and build on the good feeling we have following the youth cup, I have a feeling McCabe is up against it. Wilson, Robins, Reid etc will do nothing to excite the fans or, IMO, give belief that we can turn things round and build what everyone wants.
Robson was clearly McCabe's choice and since then he's promoted from within and appointed two 'Blades'. Given that he thinks we need to return to the 'Blades family values' which he thinks have slipped away, I really don't know who he's going to turn to.
If it's an appointment for the fans then the only two who would probably get full support are RDM and Pembo. I have a feeling thought that at the end of the day, cost and experience will win through and we'll end up with one of the three I mentioned above although how an ex Wendy manager will re-ignite the 'Blades Way' is beyond me.
Does that answer the question
Robson was clearly McCabe's choice and since then he's promoted from within and appointed two 'Blades'. Given that he thinks we need to return to the 'Blades family values' which he thinks have slipped away, I really don't know who he's going to turn to.
If it's an appointment for the fans then the only two who would probably get full support are RDM and Pembo. I have a feeling thought that at the end of the day, cost and experience will win through and we'll end up with one of the three I mentioned above although how an ex Wendy manager will re-ignite the 'Blades Way' is beyond me.
Does that answer the question
FirthParkBlade
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I still think it will be Robins. I wouldn't be too upset at the appointment, he kept Barnsley up last season and had Rotherham on the brink of promotion. There are a lot worse candidates out there. I just wish that the decision would speed up so we can start planning for next season.
sheffielder
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From the rumours and betting patterns it looks like Wilson. At this moment I am begging it's Pemberton or 2nd choice of Robins now.
Wilson would be a ******* joke and my worry then would be that Pemberton gets annoyed that Wilson got picked over him. It would split this club worse than any manager I can remember
Wilson would be a ******* joke and my worry then would be that Pemberton gets annoyed that Wilson got picked over him. It would split this club worse than any manager I can remember
JohnDenver
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When Adams was appointed it was said that Pembo was consulted. Seems rather unlikely to me given their different approaches (not that we saw Adams long enough to judge fairly).
This time, either appoint Pembo or let him have a veto on the decision. Let's do something properly for once.
PS - the idea that Steve McLaren would come to a 3rd tier outfit is pretty far-fetched.
This time, either appoint Pembo or let him have a veto on the decision. Let's do something properly for once.
PS - the idea that Steve McLaren would come to a 3rd tier outfit is pretty far-fetched.
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My thoughts entirely
SteelCity Blade
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If it is Wilson, my problem is not with his previous associations to rival clubs. I couldn't give a toss about that personally but my problem is with the fact that he hasn't really pulled up any trees since he managed Barnsley (about 15 years ago) and perhaps even more important at a time like this.....he wouldn't have the support of the fans as a whole. It would take a very brave man to appoint him and I'm not at all convinced it would be a smart move.
The next appointment has to be given time to move the new way of thinking forward. Wilson would not get that time. If he didn't get off to a flying start you would have people in the car park shouting for another sacking. I dont want us to go down that road again. The pressure on an ex-wednesday player/manager would be far greater than on anyone else and this team isnt going to heal itself overnight.
As I said, his associations aren't important to me but I know they will be to a lot of other fans. He would have my support if he did come in but I would fear for him almost immediately.
The next appointment has to be given time to move the new way of thinking forward. Wilson would not get that time. If he didn't get off to a flying start you would have people in the car park shouting for another sacking. I dont want us to go down that road again. The pressure on an ex-wednesday player/manager would be far greater than on anyone else and this team isnt going to heal itself overnight.
As I said, his associations aren't important to me but I know they will be to a lot of other fans. He would have my support if he did come in but I would fear for him almost immediately.
The more I see the youth team, the more I think Pembo if he can instill that kind of play into the first team game. They close down brilliantly, never give in, all of them are good passes (see Maguire's long balls last night for example). So the question then would be who do we get in at the academy to replaced Pemberton?
BladeHearts
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If we are going to go down the route of playing a more youthful team it is incredibly important that we appoint a manager who can really galvanise our support.
It is unlikely that Danny Wilson would be that man. Anything other than immediate and sustained success would have the knockers howling abuse at the first opportunity and nothing would destroy the confidence of our kids more than having to play in a cauldron of hate every week.
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I am sure that Pemberton has similarly minded contacts in the game that he could bring in to continue his good work.
The managerial appointment is about changing the whole ethos of the club, so that from First Team to the U-10s the club is clear about what sort of players it wants to develop. If we appoint Pemberton, it means that rather than weakening the youth set-up, we are actually ensuring absolute commitment to the process from the very top.
It is unlikely that Danny Wilson would be that man. Anything other than immediate and sustained success would have the knockers howling abuse at the first opportunity and nothing would destroy the confidence of our kids more than having to play in a cauldron of hate every week.
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I am sure that Pemberton has similarly minded contacts in the game that he could bring in to continue his good work.
The managerial appointment is about changing the whole ethos of the club, so that from First Team to the U-10s the club is clear about what sort of players it wants to develop. If we appoint Pemberton, it means that rather than weakening the youth set-up, we are actually ensuring absolute commitment to the process from the very top.
SotonBlade
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It's alright getting him to change the way the first team play, but dealing with players who are established professionals and dealing with youngsters are 2 totally different skills. As well as the fact Pembo has no experience of dealing with transfers, pesky agents, etc.
As good as Pembo clearly is, I don't think he's the right man to be our first team manager.
As good as Pembo clearly is, I don't think he's the right man to be our first team manager.
One could imagine though that dealing with teenagers isn't exactly easy either. I'm sure any teachers or parents on here would second that view. Besides, when would you ever be ready to prove yourself if you were not given the chance. Experience has to start somewhere.
Maybe Bassett could be kept on in a Director of Football role to aid transfers etc. if Pemberton was to get the job.
SteelCity Blade
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As we normally disagree on most things that is a ringing endorsement, many thanks
I saw your post in the other thread and I totally agree with you on this. It would be an appointment to raise the eyebrow!
beechblade
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He has dealt with senior players though, he was Forest revesre team manager, and won the reserve title with them, he then took over caretaker role till Billy Davies came in, his first win was 3-2 and he also still remained in charge for the FA Cup 3rd round win against Man City. He's spent 10 years at Forest and most of it was with seniors, then he went to Palace with Hart and Freedam, working with the seniors.
But I agree he has little experience with transfers, but this is were a key no.2 would come in to aid him if he's the one appointed.
I'm more in favour of Pembo, I also think he'll get it, if not Robins will, the key thing for me is who Pembo brings in as his coaching staff for the academy and his no.2.
sheffielder
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McCabe needs to be brave here and go for Pembo and trust him.
Wilson got Barnsley promoted 14 years ago and has done nothing since. There is nothing brave about that; just ******* stupid
Wilson is like everyone of McCabe's managers rolled into one and offers nothing. I couldn't sleep last night when I saw the betting and rumours flying about; it just can't be true.
Wilson got Barnsley promoted 14 years ago and has done nothing since. There is nothing brave about that; just ******* stupid
Wilson is like everyone of McCabe's managers rolled into one and offers nothing. I couldn't sleep last night when I saw the betting and rumours flying about; it just can't be true.
beechblade
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I was also thinking this earlier in the managerial search. Mainly for whoever comes in Bassett moving to DOF, when it was announced he would stay on in a conslutancy role.
sheffielder
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You can bring an experienced number two for transfers etc; birch is still at the club I am guessing till the end of August as is Bassett. He was also a player who had numerous transfers himself so he is not totally wet behind the ears
Jim Chimmerney
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Bassett's experience and know-how didn't help Micky much. I really can't see what he would offer tbh, yes he's been there and done it but that was 20 plus years ago and part of our problem is that we haven't moved on.
super_pig
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it has to be pemberton. he's earned it. do you need a phd to do transfers then?. is it more complicated than coaching the team?
sheffielder
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I am talking aout Bassett helping Pemberton with his in's and out's. Micky's failure was down to Micky
Jim Chimmerney
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Given that Bassett was brought in to help Micky, how does Bassett escape criticism ? What makes you think Bassett would add valuable advice on transfers ?
People are saying the likes of Reid and Wilson's successes are too far in the past yet think Bassett can add something, all a bit strange to me.
beechblade
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He's done the Director of Football role before and its more of a role involved with the board, he's the intermediary, and it would be up to him and the manager on how much he gets involved in. I certainly wouldn't hope it would be seen as General Manager role dealing with the transfer policy, solely. Inccidentally when was Bassett taken on as the consultant, was it before or after the Transfer Window?
SteelCity Blade
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Danny Wilson does seem likely now. He's odds on with the bookmakers and clear favourite at the moment. I realise it is dictated by betting patters but most Blades are in disbelief at the prospect so I cant imagine people would be betting on this unless they knew or had heard something.
Was he spotted at Old Trafford last night at all? I'm wondering if that might have sparked a flurry of bets!
Was he spotted at Old Trafford last night at all? I'm wondering if that might have sparked a flurry of bets!
sheffielder
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I am not saying that Jim. I am sure bassett if he did help Micky was going for Micky's targets.. get me a y and z etc;
Surely there can't be any blame on bassett for Doyle and Collins etc;
Bassett's job would be to facilitate.. don't understand your point
beechblade
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I hope not.
Railway Blade
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The appointment of one of Pembo, Hill, RDM or Tisdale would not split the fanbase too much. Anyone else on that list I think would to some degree or other. That said if I had to guess I think it will be Robins.
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