All those who didnt want Wilder back

[Stretch]

I thought it was a harsh decision to sack him in the first place, but also understood why the owners wanted to try something new. I was then agnostic on him coming back, because by that point I had realised that the owners didn't have a fucking clue what they were doing.

At the end of the day I am just delighted that we have turned the corner. I was worried that the Pigs, Pompey and Leicester results may have been another false dawn and had a feeling that yesterday would be another humbling. Instead I came away from that game feeling the same as I did when we were destroying teams in league 1.

Something is definitely happening again.

 

[Sheffsteel]

When did I say I’m not optimistic? I think like everyone else I’m starting to look more at the top half of the table than what’s below.

We just haven’t done anything yet, a few bad results and we’ll be looking over our shoulder again. The humble pie needs to be saved for the end of the season.

I don’t really judge us on results….i look at the performances.

Was impressed how we dominated Wednesday…must be one of the most one sided derbies ever and could have been 0-6
I kept thinking is it us that’s good or them that’s shockingly poor?
My conclusion were SW were terrible as they didn’t seem to even show any effort.

Next game was impressed how we beat Portsmouth so easily…again I’m thinking is it us who is good or them that are poor.
My conclusion was they were poor….once they went down to 10 men they showed no effort to score….a boringly easy win.

Next game away at Leicester….3-0 up at half time….again I’m thinking is it us that’s too good or Leicester that are terrible?
My conclusion was that Leicester were a total disgrace showing zero effort in that 1st half and it was far too easy.

Yesterday again I’m thinking is it us that’s too good for this league or a one-off where Stoke put in their worse performances of the season?
My conclusion was Stoke were terrible, really poor…..they looked demoralised and didn’t show much effort to score.

See the pattern….its now 4 consecutive matches where the opposition have been outclassed and played their worse performance of the season .
Surely it can’t be coincidence. Reminds me of that 1st season up under Wilder, when we outplayed Spurs in their own back yard and all their fans could say was “it was one of their worse performances seen in years”, then we went to Arsenal and had good spells of outplaying them and their fans said “one of their worse displays in years”.

It’s still early days but just maybe Wilder has found the formula to having a functioning team.
For the 1st time this season our midfield is starting to function….Peck is full of confidence.
Instead of messing around with playing Tanganga as a right back Wilder has realised he’s best as a centre back in a back 4.
So the defense is starting to look really solid….another game where Cooper hardly touched the ball.
The Sereki/ Brooks combo down the right is giving us a new attacking dimension. Early in the season attack was too distant from midfield, now we have Bamford dropping deep showing for the ball, holding it up and laying it off linking midfield with attack ( a bit like how McGoldrick used to play).

Early days but it’s looking so promising.
This division is full of average teams all of a similiar standard….there are no teams near the level of a Burnley, Leeds or even a Sunderland.
However think the bottom end is stronger than usual….so every team is capable of beating each other.

It’s a tough ask but we were saying that almost every team in this league is at a similar level to Stoke City….and we looked a division above them yesterday.
So It is possible that we could go on a 8 wins out of 8 run….and if that happens we’re back in the promotion race.

 

[BarcaBlade]

But we’re also transformed when we don’t have the ball. We have a consistently high, energetic and co-ordinated press. We play with bite and aggression when winning the ball back. We are first to second balls and breakdowns.

There was a moment yesterday when we won the ball back and it seemed Seriki/Brooks were almost disappointed at how easily it had happened. They'd been pushing up, had to get back when the attack broke down and almost immediately had to set off at speed back into attack.

My mind-reading abilities meant I saw a little thought bubble above their heads reading, 'FFS, could you not keep the ball for at least a few seconds to give us a rest'.

Too easy. I won't be celebrating tap-in 4-0 victories like that.

(Irony alert)

 

[Carlton Blade]

Still maintain all the money available for negotiating that contract was earned by CWAK. The Prince backed him as well as he could but the real magic that generated all the funds came from CWAK.

I'd say the players come first tbh

 

[alcoblade]

Never ever should have been sacked. Always right for 'us'. All this no good for long term shite is exactly that shite. We are SUFC not MUFC.

That today was as good as it will ever get for 'us'. Well done Al and Chris - on behalf of the board - 'sorry we were clueless'.

Absolutely. I'm not one for this division shit with "I wanted / didn't want him back", but this idea of "not right for the long term" is always lost on me.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Too easy. I won't be celebrating tap-in 4-0 victories like that.

(Irony alert)

Made me laugh because it’s true….our last 4 matches have been too easy because the opposition haven’t turned up.
Cooper has hardly touched the ball because the defence is starting to look really solid too.

It is an amazing coincidence how in our last 4 matches the opposition have put in their worse performance of the season.
Some Wednesday fans were even saying their game against us was one of their worse displays in years.
Leicester fans on YouTube said that 1st half against us was one of the worse displays they can ever remember.
Some Stoke fans on their forum are saying yesterday was probably their worse display in at least 5 years.

See the pattern and long may it continue.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Just find the “told you so” attitude childish. We’re all blades, we obviously want our club to succeed regardless of who the manager is

The future is hard to predict. Being anti Wilder 3.0 was a totally reasonable opinion to hold given what we’d seen prior to this season.

Equally, our form could drop off again soon and we lose a few on the spin. Will the anti-Wilder crowds now be correct?

Let’s just see where we are come the end of the season before anyone wants to start serving out humble pie. Whatever the circumstances, hopefully we storm up the league and don’t look back. The rest is bollocks

UTB

I’m sure we will drop off, doesn’t
mean Wilder wasn’t the right man to get us out of the absolute mire we brought upon ourselves in the summer. I’m just loving the football for now, I’m sure the knives will be out when we lose the odd match. Given where we were when Selles left, anything above survival in this league this season is a bloody miracle.

 

[alcoblade]

Not at all, I want the club to be successful. But for us to be really successful and become an established premier league club we will need more investment and sponsorship.

When people are looking for clubs to invest in or sponsors who do you think they would rather work with, the club with a well respected manager who’s unlikely to say or do anything embarrassing or the manager with a history of embarrassing their club on multiple occasions? Investors/sponsors will always want to protect their brand and most likely go with the safer option.

The same goes with top quality players who we’d need to sign to become established in the premier league. In the premier league there’s much more emphasis on coaching ability rather than man management/motivation and the top quality players, especially those from overseas may well not be overly keen to work with Wilder.

I get it though, you love it cos it’s like one of the lads from the pub being the manager and that’s cool, unless you really want to be successful.

Aye, getting an acceptable "brand" of manager worked a treat for them this summer

Personally, I love it because over multiple seasons, he's proved to be a very good football manager. That some people would prefer the latest flash in the pan who's had a good 6 months baffles me. Pep isn't coming here, but Ruben Selles and the like might.

 

[FTPE]

I think what's happened is Wilder has FINALLY accepted that posters on here simply know more about football than him and has finally started listening to them.

You joke, but how many on here actually feel that way?
"Finally, I told him he should stick with Brooks, play two up top, and put Tanganga in the middle".
Nice one random fella, leave your position at B&Q and put your name in the hat for the next Championship managerial position

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Where are you now?
How good was that?
Five matches
Four wins one draw.
Four without conceding.
13 goals for. 2 against

Today I thought we outplayed and out performed a decent side in every department . A side who were top two recently. Things are coming together nicely. I'm beginning to be more positive. It can only get better.
ALL since the return of Wilder of Nazareth.

Yes, and we’re enjoying it too. It’s absolutely fantastic to be proven wrong. Just because we might have grimaced at the prospect of having a manager back for a third time, doesn’t mean our love for SUFC is less than yours.

 

[blade too long]

Yep. Just four weeks ago (after the 0-0 with QPR) he'd been 'found out' and we were certs for relegation in many people's view

such is the patience of the doubters ,love the assertion that we rode our luck in winning 28 games
arent we jammy barstewards
the second goal VAR decision, in the only game VAR was used cost us dearly , there been loads more of similar decisions in the prem where the inidents not even been looked at
wilder went for it, but yet again we were on the arse end of a decision
he returned to a selles ravaged squad with players who had had 8 shots in 6 games and had zero cohesion
I was worried wed have to wait for january to get in players but hes slowly taught them how to gel
when he arrived we were 4 points adrift of the owls but are now 32 points ahead of them, which is nice

last season we finished 3rd behind the 2 clubs who spent more on transfers and wages, just like the prem pecking order

do I care about him dancing on a table after beating the pigs ,, not in the slightest
all any manager cares about is themselves.
if we get up this season be way better than the league one promotion starting a sixth of the season behind everyne else
6th place on gd and win the play off s would see me dancing on tabes all summer

 

[blade too long]

such is the patience of the doubters ,love the assertion that we rode our luck in winning 28 games
arent we jammy barstewards
the second goal VAR decision, in the only game VAR was used cost us dearly , there been loads more of similar decisions in the prem where the inidents not even been looked at
wilder went for it, but yet again we were on the arse end of a decision
he returned to a selles ravaged squad with players who had had 8 shots in 6 games and had zero cohesion
I was worried wed have to wait for january to get in players but hes slowly taught them how to gel
when he arrived we were 4 points adrift of the owls but are now 32 points ahead of them, which is nice

do I care about him dancing on a table after beating the pigs ,, not in the slightest
all any manager cares about is themselves.
if we get up this season be way better than the league one promotion starting a sixth of the season behind everyne else
6th place on gd and win the play off s would see me dancing on tabes all summer

we are 3 wins behind ipswich who are 4th , so its nearer than you think

 

[Kenilworth]

I'd say the players come first tbh

So, without a manager and first team coach those players would have steered the club to 100 points and the Div 3 title?

That’s remarkable

 

[Carlton Blade]

So, without a manager and first team coach those players would have steered the club to 100 points and the Div 3 title?

That’s remarkable

I guarantee you that even managers know that you only win when you have the players

 

[Peaktrade]

He’s doing a great job at the moment but come on - he tried to continue with the 1 up front route when majority of us could see it’s not working and need 2 up top!

Oh, low and behold recent results and we are scoring goals!

Question Marks still on tactics, substitutions etc - such as leicester he went back to 1 up top and went defensive which gave us a nervous second half. (Let’s not forget play off finals - we need to be able to retain the lead).
Against Stoke finally showed if we continue in the same vain as the first half we can win games more comfortable.

I do think Wilder is the right man for job, lets ride the momentum and no negative tactics going forward… the P word could be on the horizon

 

[nopigfansintown]

I used to be regular on here over a period of years but I have been 'forced off' by the latest bunch of anti-Utd wankers who now frequent this place. The final straw was a couple of well known posters ridiculing and abusing me over my enthusiasm for signing Bamford, and being told football maybe wasnt for me. Bamford looks OK to me as they vanish into thin air , no doubt to return at the next draw. I dont, didnt need that crap in my life hence Ive become a part time contributer now ,and up yours to the miserable twats.

Likewise. Wilder derangement syndrome is a hell of a thing, probably the weirdest thing associated with the club I can think of.The toxicity brought by a few isn't representative, but it's the fart in the lift thing isn't it? It's non existent on match days. You just have to remind yourself it's an internet echo chamber phenomenon that's revelled in by a few online attention seekers.

It does make this place an increasingly hard read to see the very selective negativity though. A win or two and the same posters are back in their shells

 

[Kenilworth]

I guarantee you that even managers know that you only win when you have the players

Like SeLLLLLLes?
Check mate

 

[Cheesebored]

You remember the time the rinsed the club for millions as he walked away when things weren’t going his way right?

 

[Carlton Blade]

Like SeLLLLLLes?
Check mate

 

[Houston_Blade]

we are 3 wins behind ipswich who are 4th , so its nearer than you think

Try using the mirror if you want a chat with yourself

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I don’t really judge us on results….i look at the performances.

Yes, I always used say if the performances were there, the results would eventually come.

 

[ucandomagic]

Mr Wilder is a very interesting character. He is a true leader - but not always a good leader. When things are going well he is fantastic. When things are going poorly he treats any criticism as a personal insult and doubles down on the decision in order to prove himself right. Things are going very well at present, and have the feel of 16/17.

Being a Blade is a rollercoaster ride - we’re not built for the carousel, as the Americans put it. Chris Wilder just makes that rollercoaster ride more extreme.

I remember Wilder described “that muppet Bamford” after the Leeds Villa debacle. We all agreed, but now he’s “our muppet”!

Wilder has done some wanker things - but he always has and always will be “our wanker”.

After all, we’re all wankers at the Lane!

UTB & Slava Ukraini!

 

[wadblade]

Reading other clubs fans in Roygbiv it is pretty universal that all of them either rate or fear CW

The only set of fans that don’t have a good word for him are the vocal but I believe minority of fans on here

CW is not perfect but I do believe he is our Shankly / Clough/ Revie and the Blades have come a long way since he started to manage us, and we will we progress more with him than 90% of any other manage we may get [ with an honourable mention to Hecky]

UTB

 

[wadblade]

He’s doing a great job at the moment but come on - he tried to continue with the 1 up front route when majority of us could see it’s not working and need 2 up top!

Oh, low and behold recent results and we are scoring goals!

Question Marks still on tactics, substitutions etc - such as leicester he went back to 1 up top and went defensive which gave us a nervous second half. (Let’s not forget play off finals - we need to be able to retain the lead).
Against Stoke finally showed if we continue in the same vain as the first half we can win games more comfortable.

I do think Wilder is the right man for job, lets ride the momentum and no negative tactics going forward… the P word could be on the horizon

I think CW was aware that 2 up top etc was the way forward

But such was the shambles he found, he had to go for some solidity first and cut out the mistakes and restore the players confidence and from that platform progress to where we are now

but this is conjecture

UTB

 

[North Riding Blade]

I think what's happened is Wilder has FINALLY accepted that posters on here simply know more about football than him and has finally started listening to them.

Sadly GD, there are posters on here that genuinely think they know more. It sometimes makes it a hard read.

 

[BouncinBlade]

Reading other clubs fans in Roygbiv it is pretty universal that all of them either rate or fear CW

The only set of fans that don’t have a good word for him are the vocal but I believe minority of fans on here

CW is not perfect but I do believe he is our Shankly / Clough/ Revie and the Blades have come a long way since he started to manage us, and we will we progress more with him than 90% of any other manage we may get [ with an honourable mention to Hecky]

UTB

This is very true! I live up the road in Leeds & they all speak well of him. Most other opposing fans too!

 

[Striker]

But will his arse rattle again when we come to another Sunderland play off situation?
It may well.
He has form.
Get back to me after that.

Absolutely amazing how the anti Wilder brigade eat a tiny bit of humble pie and then caveat that with

'but let's wait until he loses one again so I can say I was right all along"

Just accept that he's the best man for the job and always has been.

 

[VictoryBlade]

I'm confused, is he still a wanker or not?

Pat says he is?

 

[VictoryBlade]

I used to be regular on here over a period of years but I have been 'forced off' by the latest bunch of anti-Utd wankers who now frequent this place. The final straw was a couple of well known posters ridiculing and abusing me over my enthusiasm for signing Bamford, and being told football maybe wasnt for me. Bamford looks OK to me as they vanish into thin air , no doubt to return at the next draw. I dont, didnt need that crap in my life hence Ive become a part time contributer now ,and up yours to the miserable twats.

I agree Bamford has been an excellent signing, just loves his work rate and getting involved!

 

[10-0 win]

Add 4 academyplayers yesterday and a much younger squad. Many of our current players are still work in progress. Blaster, Brooks Seriki and Peck all possible future legends.