1963-64 (60 years ago) match reports and photos

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Just realised that I included the 1964-65 match report when we also won 3-0! Too late to remove! Ignore the first match report from Jack Rowe, the second one is the correct one. LFC history website had both 1963-64 and 1964-65 reports on the same page! Apologies!
 
25/9/1963

League Cup 2nd round

Blades 1 (Wagstaff) Bolton 2 (Lee 2)

John Parks' debut replacing Doc Pace but Francis Lee (later to play for Man City) scored twice to take Bolton through

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Apologies for the delay in adding my meagre bits and pieces; all this being old and retired leaves me with little spare time🤣
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This was very much a period when the 2 teams were very competitive. Not only were they level-pegging in derby matches, but United were moving from underdogs to matching Wednesday. Wednesday had the better stadium, and better-known players, but United’s settled team, with good youngsters in reserve when needed, now matched Wednesday in the derby games and in league position. This particular game reflected that situation clearly. It has taken many years for United to establish themselves as the stronger club, but it makes it all the more enjoyable now that we have. In the hotel we stayed in recently in Greece (the real reason for my delay in posting), the owner asked me where we were from, and his response to the information was ‘Are you a fan of Sheffield United?’ He even apologised for the injury to Baldock… And added that he was looking forward to watching the Newcastle match.Heaven knows what he made of that, but it does not alter the fact that for many, Sheffield is a one-club city.
 
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Confirming one of the regular themes of the Lines from the Pavilion, the above is the programme for a match celebrating United Juniors winning the Northern Intermediate League, and though I don’t remember the match, the United lineup confirms that this was a special set of youngsters. Bernard Shaw presumably did not play because he was playing for the first team at the time. The half-back line consisted of 3 lads who all played more than 100 league games for United, and 3 other players (Badger, Woodward, and Mick Jones) all went on to be Blades legends. There was a conveyor belt of talented local lads.
 

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Just realised that I included the 1964-65 match report when we also won 3-0! Too late to remove! Ignore the first match report from Jack Rowe, the second one is the correct one. LFC history website had both 1963-64 and 1964-65 reports on the same page! Apologies!
If you had kept quiet, I think you might have got away with it!
 
Thanks for saving me a job by including the programme! A couple of comments:
1. Pace was a great header of the ball, and this included an ability to be in the right place to pick up on angled shot and deflect the ball into the net. Have we had other players who could do that? Seems the sort of thing Keith Edwards would do, but I can’t think of an example (off the top of my head😂).
2. The Lines from the Pavilion mention a coach crash affecting the Juniors. I posted a photo of the Challenge Match they played a few days later; anyone know the score?
 
5/10/1963

Blades 3 (Wagstaff, Simpson, Docherty) Spurs 3 (Greaves, Smith, Dyson)

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Scores, scorers, line ups and league table in below link
 
25/9/1963

League Cup 2nd round

Blades 1 (Wagstaff) Bolton 2 (Lee 2)

John Parks' debut replacing Doc Pace but Francis Lee (later to play for Man City) scored twice to take Bolton through

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Another match I have totally forgotten. I do, however, remember the next time we played Bolton… Having Francis Lee (RIP) and Wyn Davies makes for an interesting attack, and on this occasion, United’s youngsters were not quite good enough. The League Cup has only occasionally been interesting for us.
A couple of points of interest from the programme, below:
1. The League Cup was not viewed seriously from day one. A lot of big clubs did not enter, especially if they were playing in Europe. We were catching up on Wednesday, but in terms of stadium and international profile, we were still well behind them.
2. Stanley Matthews missed the Stoke match against United (Sept 18) because he was playing in an exhibition match abroad. Bizarre.
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28/9/1963

Aston Villa 0 Blades 1 (Pace)

We climb up into 3rd place!

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Again, I am sure I did not go to this game, but I do remember the growing sense at the time that United were becoming a serious force at the top of the table, with a mix of a very solid senior team, supported by promising younger players who could come in and do a good job when necessary. Everything was coming together. I include below the list of appearances after this match (10 games). Almost all the players have played 10 or 9 times, and the cover players were doing a good job (Bernard Shaw, Wagstaff, Mathewson, Docherty):
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Ollie Arblaster’s grandad had so far made no 1st or 2nd team appearances, but there again, neither had Birchenall or Woodward, so he was in good company…
 
5/10/1963

Blades 3 (Wagstaff, Simpson, Docherty) Spurs 3 (Greaves, Smith, Dyson)

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Great days at the Lane. Spurs were the glamour team of the early 60s, and our record against them at the time was good, and the matches against them usually high quality and exciting. This was in fact the first of two 3-3 home draws against them in successive seasons. The only person not enjoy it will have been the bloke on the Kop who lost £35 to a pickpocket. I didn’t know at the time that I stood alongside the wealthy and the criminal fraternity on the Kop!
Here are pages from the programme:
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In his autobiography, which is full of factual errors, Hodgy includes a paragraph on Jimmy Greaves (reproduced below for Bert ). I had been intending to say that I could not distinguish between the successive 3-3 draws with Spurs. But having compared it with the match reports, it is clear that he is not describing Greaves’ goal in this match; it is presumably from the game the following season. But it does describe a typical Jimmy Greaves goal very effectively:

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9/10/1963

Blades 3 (Docherty 2, Simpson) Ipswich 1 (Moran)

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In the current climate of doom and gloom at the Lane, it is good to be reminded of times when things were going well. It really felt as if United were establishing themselves in the top division, but the ability of the youngsters and fringe players to make their mark when called upon was also encouraging. In this match it was right-winger John Docherty who scored 2 excellent goals who caught the eye. United had been runners-up to Ipswich in 1960-61, and then Ipswich had followed this up by becoming League champions the next season. But by the time of this game, they were in relegation trouble, and it seemed that United had made the transition to the top league more successfully. The programme notes again have an interesting balance between mentioning youngsters who were to later become established players (David Munks is added to the list in the Ipswich programme), and paying tribute to the senior players (Joe Shaw in this case). The present was good, and the future looked promising. Everything seemed in order, except perhaps the poor attendance (just over 18000).
I had forgotten that Jackie Milburn had replaced Alf Ramsey as manager. While Ramsey was on his way to winning the World Cup, Milburn as a manager repeated none of his success as a player.
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Saturday October 12, 1963
United Reserves 5-0 Chesterfield Reserves

United’s away match at Everton was moved to midweek because of the Wales v England match, but the feel good factor was still present with this big victory over Chesterfield.
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The Reserves were beginning to enjoy the sort of success that the first team was having. I don’t remember anything of this game, but confidence was growing at all levels. I assume this was the home debut of Woodward for the Reserves, but sadly it didn’t register with me at the time.
The name Whitham at no. 9 for Chesterfield had me consulting Google, and it turns out that he did indeed play for Wednesday, but this was Terry Whitham, who played a handful of games for Wednesday, before moving to Chesterfield where he was a utility player who was not a first-team regular. He was not related to the more famous Jack Whitham, whose hat-trick v ManU in 1968 ruined my wedding-day - the church was near enough to Hillsborough for us to hear quite clearly the crowd reactions during a 5-4 win for Wednesday.
 
19/10/1963

Blades 3 (Pace 3) Birmingham City 0

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Interesting differences in details between the 2 reports, and also interesting that the programme notes comment on the great atmosphere at The Lane for the Spurs game, which was clearly not repeated for the Birmingham match (‘sullen and semi-somnolent crowd’, according to Heap). It is also interesting that the programme notes squeeze in a last-minute reference to the defeat at Everton, where it is clear that we were outclassed by a team in top form. But such was the competitive nature of League 1 at the time that the win over Birmingham took us from 7th in the League up to 3rd, level on points with Spurs and ManU! It was perhaps unfortunate that the next game was against 4th-placed Burnley, away, where United had not won a game in the post-war period. But we could approach any game with optimism, particularly if, as in the Birmingham game, one of our forwards was on the top of his game. Pace would be full of confidence after his hat-trick, and others were capable of scoring…
I found the Lines from the Pavilion interesting this week. But I still can’t make sense of why Mrs Armstrong was visiting Bramall Lane. Was there a connection I am unaware of…?
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Denis Thwaites and his wife were murdered by a terrorist at Tunisia in 2015
 
Denis Thwaites and his wife were murdered by a terrorist at Tunisia in 2015
I remember that incident well, but had no idea that an ex-footballer had been involved. He was a youngster when he played that game at The Lane, and in the programme notes on Birmingham, no mention is made of him. According to Wiki, he played just over 80 games, but suffered badly with nerves. What a sad story.
 
Hi Hodgy and Silent . As ever , lots of excellent stuff in your recent contributions which bring back many memories , notably the Spurs match and England v Poland - much appreciated and keep up the good work.

With regard to the latter , I can safely say that me and my pal were sufficiently well lubricated when we arrived at Wembley , after having driven down from Sheffield arriving in Leicester Square at bang on midday and spending the rest of the day sampling the wares of various taverns in the locality for the next 6 hours before heading off for the stadium .

Nevertheless , I have a clear recollection of many incidents that took place during the match , including being bang in line with the Polish striker when he hit the shot which beat Shilton.

However , out of all the various match reports and other written material you reproduced , the one that gave me most pleasure was that of the journalists summary of Joe Shaw’s performance in the Liverpool match . If anyone who had the privilege of watching him play over a period of many years were to be asked to describe his outstanding abilities and sheer consistency in just two short sentences , they would be hard pressed to match this one .

Based on where it appeared it would be easy to miss , so for the benefit of those who did (and my own as I just love reading it ! ) , it read as follows :-

“ Joe Shaw , what can be said about this amazing man that has not been said over the past five years? Does he ever make a mistake?
I can see him in ten years time from now casually nodding the ball out to his wing halves or dribbling quietly round a fuming , frustrated First Division forward “.

What a wonderfully descriptive and perceptive piece of journalism that is . Many thanks for giving me the pleasure of reading it .
 
26/10/1963

Burnley 1 (Robson) Blades 2 (Simpson 2)

Ronnie Simpson's goals were scored after 8 seconds (still a club record) and 8 minutes. Blades roar to the top of the league!

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26/10/1963

Burnley 1 (Robson) Blades 2 (Simpson 2)

Ronnie Simpson's goals were scored after 8 seconds (still a club record) and 8 minutes. Blades roar to the top of the league!

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A remarkable day. I must have been playing football in the morning, so missed the Burnley match…but was at the Lane for the Reserves match, watching the scoreboard with great interest, and watching the Reserves thrash ManU 4-1 and move up the Central League table. These were exciting times, what could possibly go wrong?
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2/11/1963

Blades 2 (Kettleborough, Wagstaff) Arsenal 2 (Strong, Baker)

Still top of the league!

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Chesterfield born Bob Wilson in goal for Arsenal. He didnt have a regular place in the 1st team until the 1968-69 season!
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