“In Wilder we trust” but do we?!

[Houston_Blade]

This is something I hear a lot, both tongue in cheek and in a serious manner. The guy has a great record with the Blades in terms of team performance. Looks to have a motivated set of players and we play in the right way.

He’s also admitted (indirectly) by selling his January targets, that he’s hit and miss in the transfer market. Wilson was dog shit. The long-term targets in the case of Holmes and Leonard just didn’t work. Evans did a job for a few months but was substandard compared to what we had already. Lundstram is solid but hasn’t pulled up any trees. Donaldson was a shrewd signing and owed us nothing in the end but became poor towards the end of the season.

On the flip side he’s made some great signings and rejuvenated some bad signings made by other managers (Coutts and Clarke mainly).

I trust Wilder and I’m happy with the business he’s done this season, however I think we wing it in the transfer market and we don’t have the funds to get so many wrong.

More a pontification rather than a question this but just wanted to summarise my thoughts on a few things Wilder based.

 

[alcoblade]

Any absolute fucking morons out there probably don’t trust in him.

 

[Topplayersleave]

I do, but I don't believe our boardroom will do anything other than piss him off bigtime in the end.

 

[penthouseblade]

110%.

 

[John Street]

As soon as he knows the player isn't going to work he gets rid asap and replaces with another. Players in the past have hung around like a bad smell under previous regimes.

 

[sheffielder]

Must admit, I was starting to have nagging doubts, especially with the new formation of 3 midfielders and his love for Clarke. I always loved him because I thought he always saw the game as I saw it. You knew what subs were needed and when they were coming. Due to us struggling in midfield I think that changed and I couldn't understand his thought process at times. I think he realised himself for us to go back to what we were good at he had to get Norwood and hopefully the rest will fall into place. It's hard being a manager and not being able to pick players or sub players you want to, because we had weak links in the team to consuder. I think this has now been addressed now.

Egan signing means that we are more flexible at the back at Basham can go into midfield.
Norwood changes everything and Duffy and Fleck will benefit, with Coutts to come back which will make us even more flexible.

He's practically binned all the players signed since we came back to the championship which shows me he does know what he's doing. There is no shame in selling players that don't work out and takes a strong man to do it.

To the point of winging it, our main spine signigns of Henderson, Egan and Norwood are not winging it.
Washington and McGoldrick maybe, to be seen

 

[ben1987]

Sir Alex Ferguson signed Djemba-Djemba and Bebe for Man U. He also signed Ronaldo. No manager has ever gotten every signing right, ever.

Wilder is adjusting to a new level and has operated on one of the lower budgets in the league so far. When using a lower budget a lot of the signings are going to be a risk. Some pay off some don’t.

But yeah I trust him with my blades 100% anyone that doesn’t must have forgotten the last couple of seasons and the 6 before that.

 

[FTPE]

I trust him.
I just feel like his hands are tied sometimes.
I'm not saying he should get a blank cheque book, I'm sure he isn't either but he must be under a lot more restraints than a lot of managers in his position.

 

[alcoblade]

As soon as he knows the player isn't going to work he gets rid asap and replaces with another. Players in the past have hung around like a bad smell under previous regimes.

Exactly, because he signed them on realistic contracts, with resale value.

I shudder to think of the terrible business we did for a decade before him.

 

[Chali 2na]

This is something I hear a lot, both tongue in cheek and in a serious manner. The guy has a great record with the Blades in terms of team performance. Looks to have a motivated set of players and we play in the right way.

He’s also admitted (indirectly) by selling his January targets, that he’s hit and miss in the transfer market. Wilson was dog shit. The long-term targets in the case of Holmes and Leonard just didn’t work. Evans did a job for a few months but was substandard compared to what we had already. Lundstram is solid but hasn’t pulled up any trees. Donaldson was a shrewd signing and owed us nothing in the end but became poor towards the end of the season.

On the flip side he’s made some great signings and rejuvenated some bad signings made by other managers (Coutts and Clarke mainly).

I trust Wilder and I’m happy with the business he’s done this season, however I think we wing it in the transfer market and we don’t have the funds to get so many wrong.

More a pontification rather than a question this but just wanted to summarise my thoughts on a few things Wilder based.

He has the best transfer record in terms of hit/miss than any of our long term managers in the last 2 decades.

He's also working with his hands tied behind his back - this is probably our smallest budget compared to our competitors in the league, excluding the PL season in the same 2 decades.

For those reasons, I trust him emphatically.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

Personally my respect has gone up for the guy with the selling of these players recently. Seen so many managers try to prove a point by consistently playing players that they have bought, even though everyone can see that they either, are not good enough, don’t fit a system or haven’t settled at the club.
Wilder chased Leonard and Holmes for a long time and on paper it is quite embarrassing that 9 months later he has sold them, plus the others. But for me it shows that he is very strong. Happy to admit that he has made a mistake, hasn’t prolonged or made this error worse. Move them on and get as much as he could and move the club forwards.

 

[We are bladesmen]

I think the main thing Is we are a much better squad now than we ever were last year.

Apart from Brooks we have kept everyone worthwhile who we owned last year, while adding Henderson, Egan, Norwood, Mcgoldrick - which are surefire improvements and the likes of Johnson, Woodburn, Washington and Bryan in too.

 

[Terry Poole]

Yeah, compete trust. Even makes a profit on players who didnt cut it

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

He's got a £250 credit limit on his card and he buys what looks like good value at the time not what is the best.

Wish everyone would give him a break [including, no especially the board].

 

[Bladesway]

Any absolute fucking morons out there probably don’t trust in him.

Yeah but he’s lost the dressing room. A player told someone.

 

[Bladesway]

Exactly, because he signed them on realistic contracts, with resale value.

I shudder to think of the terrible business we did for a decade before him.

Thing he has done better than anyone I can remember is make us a club players from higher divisions want to play for. Managers want their players here on loan and players want to play for Wilder. So we are already a step ahead of most clubs. Can’t think of a manager since Bruce or Kendall who had the draw Wilder has.

 

[blade too long]

all managers take on players that for differing reasons dont click
chris has to buy at ALDI not Fortnum and Masons so some will get returned

 

[Bladesway]

all managers take on players that for differing reasons dont click
chris has to buy at ALDI not Fortnum and Masons so some will get returned

I never saw players in the Aldi special offers booklet. “When it’s gone, it’s gone”

 

[steve26272]

[QUOTE="derekacorah, post: 1792275, member: 5231

however I think we wing it in the transfer market and we don’t have the funds to get so many wrong.[/QUOTE]

I would say the opposite, we don’t have the budget to get it right every time! Last season Villa signed Snodgrass who scored a worldly to get them the points... but he’s a £10mil player on at a guess £80k per week. We can’t reduce the gamble to that extent, we have to take risks, our budget dictates.

 

[wavy-blade]

Get behind him ffs , you'd be crying like babies if we lost him , get a fucking grip !!

 

[blade53]

How can anyone not trust and have the utmost belief in this man after what he's given us for the last 2 years?

 

[Caveblade]

Trust him absolutely, he has that Ferguson like quality of moving players on without sentiment. This is very rare. Others have already said it to many managers are not prepared to admit thier mistakes.

This has been a good window. We haven't got a barrel of money, but in Norwood alone he has bought in a season changing player. Egan and Hendo both improve the squad and we should all hold our fire before commenting on today's additions. They could prove to be far more astute signings than Waghorn or Hogan both of whom are drastically over valued based on little substance.

Equally we have cleared the decks of players who were not going to play regularly if at all. Good luck to Lavory, Holmes, Evans Carruthers and Lenny but none has really grasped the opportunity and put themselves on the team sheet.

It's easy to criticise, but it's a tough market to wheel and deal in, CW is doing fine for me and deserve's a little more leeway from Blades fans after everything he has given us in the last 2 seasons.

 

[B14Nco]

This is something I hear a lot, both tongue in cheek and in a serious manner. The guy has a great record with the Blades in terms of team performance. Looks to have a motivated set of players and we play in the right way.

He’s also admitted (indirectly) by selling his January targets, that he’s hit and miss in the transfer market. Wilson was dog shit. The long-term targets in the case of Holmes and Leonard just didn’t work. Evans did a job for a few months but was substandard compared to what we had already. Lundstram is solid but hasn’t pulled up any trees. Donaldson was a shrewd signing and owed us nothing in the end but became poor towards the end of the season.

On the flip side he’s made some great signings and rejuvenated some bad signings made by other managers (Coutts and Clarke mainly).

I trust Wilder and I’m happy with the business he’s done this season, however I think we wing it in the transfer market and we don’t have the funds to get so many wrong.

More a pontification rather than a question this but just wanted to summarise my thoughts on a few things Wilder based.

Yes.

We were shit. Really shit.
He spent peanuts.
We romped League 1.
He spent peanuts.
We’re now a top half/ pushing play-offs championship side.

Yes.

 

[madeinsheffield]

He's not got a realistic budget to match the expectations and every League 1 ex captain or leader we buy will be good enough to make step up, that's the chance we take spending the current amounts we do.

I think he's really considered in the players he's bought, selling them generally for more money or making sure there are sell on fees applied, when have we done this consistently before? No, we've had to pay their contracts up, let them go for nothing to get them off the wage bill etc etc

 

[bromtom]

all managers take on players that for differing reasons dont click
chris has to buy at ALDI not Fortnum and Masons so some will get returned

I'd say we're eBay shoppers. We're there because we can't buy that 4K TV we want new from Currys and we know it, but you can get some reyt deals if you risk it, and at the end of the day you get what you need.

Wilder is like eBay buyer protection too, doesn't always work but we get our money back.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

This is something I hear a lot, both tongue in cheek and in a serious manner. The guy has a great record with the Blades in terms of team performance. Looks to have a motivated set of players and we play in the right way.

He’s also admitted (indirectly) by selling his January targets, that he’s hit and miss in the transfer market. Wilson was dog shit. The long-term targets in the case of Holmes and Leonard just didn’t work. Evans did a job for a few months but was substandard compared to what we had already. Lundstram is solid but hasn’t pulled up any trees. Donaldson was a shrewd signing and owed us nothing in the end but became poor towards the end of the season.

On the flip side he’s made some great signings and rejuvenated some bad signings made by other managers (Coutts and Clarke mainly).

I trust Wilder and I’m happy with the business he’s done this season, however I think we wing it in the transfer market and we don’t have the funds to get so many wrong.

More a pontification rather than a question this but just wanted to summarise my thoughts on a few things Wilder based.

You have to trust a guy who’s heart is in it and is totally honest with the fans. I respect him highly whether he succeeds or fails. That doesn’t mean I agree with all he does. But that bloke really cares and I’m totally confident he will do everything he can for this club.

It’s a difficult job being manager of Sheff Utd. Look how many have failed!

I think he’s the best manager we’ve had in all the time I’ve been watching and that goes back to John Harris.

I have a couple of reservations about him. I wish he’d consider playing wingers for one. I know that we play high up the pitch an all that, but a good winger can change a game and he doesn’t seem to favour that fast wide player and rapid attacks. He seems to prefer pressing high and a slow patient build up. I can’t knock it tbf and we’ve played some of the best possession football I’ve ever seen us play. But it’s great entertainment to see a player who runs at speed with the ball and can turn defenders inside out. I don’t think we will see that in a Wilder team somehow. It’s a bit too “avant garde” it seems?

The other reservation is about his knowledge of overseas players. He’s very much focused on the local scene and that served us well up to now. But when we reach the top level of international football I think he’ll need to be recruiting a different type of player. And I’m not sure he has the knowledge and networks to do that.

But, he’s the right man for the job right now. And hopefully he’ll evolve, as he has done all his career, to be effective in whatever situation he finds himself in.

 

[Deleted member 1486]

Yes

 

[SB_90]

In stark no as all fans are fickle always bring up ranieri He had the most secure job in european maybe world football. But 4 months later, fans were calling for his head. But wilder is a fan & will always have best intentions of the club at heart. With his history will be careful money wise

 

[Bartleby]

I thinks it's the crazy way it all works these days (as was highlighted in the video CW et al made in the transfer window last year) that means there's bound to be a lot of failures. They can do all the research they want, identify targets etc, but then so often it still goes tits up due to some greedy agent or summat, and they have to try again. So then it's either take a punt on a less preferred option or take the risk on not making any signings at all.

While I was a bit surprised by Leonard in particular, and also the other JTW signings, going so soon, this seems to me to be a better way of handling it when signings don't work, than just doing fuck all and ending up with a bloated and failing squad - as has happened to us in the very recent past.

Wilder inherited and dealt with that when he came in, and he deals with it now on an ongoing basis. He doesn't sign crocks like Hammond and Wallace, and when his signings don't work he's not too proud, or blind, to deal with it when needed.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Wilder wanted league two player, Ollie Watkins, last summer; but couldn't afford the 1.3 million to get him..He's now worth ten million plus. Wilder sold a player for twelve million this summer yet couldn't afford a top end championship striker to replace him.Wilder has taken lots of punts on lower league players - the majority of which have been a glaring success.Even the ones that don't work out are usually sold for a profit. The common denominator isn't Wilder: actually, his net spend last season is almost zero; his net spend this year is plus.....
All we've done this season - with the exception of Egan - is role the dice on a few players.Made a few low cost, calculated gambles. Washington: doesn't work out and we lose next to nowt. He does, and we get a potentially big asset on the cheap.Mcgoldrick: here for a year. Released if it doesn't work out. Bryan: low cost gamble.Norwood: no brainer at under two million.Johnson: We get a look at ,with no obligation to buy.
The common denominator isn't Wilder.He has us punching well above our weight.Without Wilder, we'd be utterly fucked.