‘It wasn’t anything to do with tactics today’

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blades_95 said:
A VERY concerning and frankly baffling quote from Wilder.

Pompey didn’t just ‘run around more’ they completely controlled the game, exploited our weakness stopping & defending crosses and should’ve scored 4/5 easily. Meanwhile we persisted with tapping it across defence, back to Cooper & launching it forward.

Last 2 performances have been very concerning in all honesty & we’ve only got away with it because we played two lesser teams. This weird 4-4-2 does not work whatsoever and playing our best attacking players out of position is weirdly stubborn from Wilder. We’ve changed from the formation that got us to 2nd after finally getting a natural LW in - why?

Hamer plays 10 or so minutes in his natural position second half and turns the game in our favour. We have the best player in the division - stop wasting him out wide.

Play our best attackers in their natural positions & let them do what they do best:

JRS - Hamer - BBD
Cannon or Campbell

Then we have either Cannon or Campbell to come on along with Moore, Brewster, O’Hare, Brooks.

It seems blindingly obvious & this weird experiment needs to stop on Wednesday.
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It was Hull again except we won
 

Bladesman said:
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"It wasn't about tactics" it chuffing was Chris. The players didn't or wouldn't play to your directions. They can all play, and all play very well. So who's job is it to get them playing together as a team? Least he recognizes the dour performance like most of us saw. It is YOUR JOB to get them playing well, select the team, the way to play, yunno tactics!!!.
Boro will be a test of the teams mettle. Play like this again and you can kiss the automatic promotion places goodbye. Bounce back with a 180° turn around and the glumness will be off. This next game just got bigger than ever. A good performance and a winning result have to be achieved. We can't keep getting lucky. The football gods don't work that way....for us anyway.
 
paidsy said:
Never his fault. Got an ego the size of a fucking continent.
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Managers need a big ego because after a couple of bad results, the bedwetting on here want them out.

bornablade said:
But all you supporters that criticise Wilder you need to : -

(a) look at the league table and

(b). remember he took us to 9th in the Premier league.

Apparently that will make today's performance all the more acceptable.
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Coming on here with yer' actual facts! Our forum experts know far more about managing a professional football team, than Wikder ever will.
 
Snowflake said:
Didn’t Hamer score by cutting in from the left wing ?
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No. He came from the left where he was stuck but there’s no way he cut in from the left wing. He scored from left of centre of the D I believe. Roughly where he ought to be
 
Throwing the players under the bus and claiming it wasn’t tactics is very wide of the mark.

If he sets a side up with Hamza and Vini in the middle and expects anything other than slow, ponderous, attritional football then he’s stealing a living.

The players might be tossing it off and think they’re better than they are but they aren’t being taught a clear way of playing other than piss around until pressed then boot it down the line or hope that Hamer pulls something out of his arse.
 
Apparently Every Body knows what he should have done,
even Mr Wilder knows what he should have done.
The point is he didn't do it,

AND WE STILL WON !!
So we must have done some thing right 👍
 
Not good enough

Mostly down to his baffling set up


He is lucky he has one of the top 3 squads in the league

I now see what Boro fans see


He is still a blades legend … but so was Brian Deane the second time we brought him back and the thrice time we did
 
Blame players not the system or tactics. This is where it went tits up last time.

Maybe making wingers invert and playing 75% of our game passing it around in our own half has not gone unnoticed by our opponents and they press us into mistakes. When we win it back and go back to Cooper and do a 5 minute kick around at the back the opposition have had time to park 3 busses behind the ball and shout ready when you want to start attacking (repeating myself)

On the plus side the passing around at the back does wonders at distorting our pass success %ages.

Cannon and Campbell CANNOT BE BLAMED, if we don’t get the ball to the forward players how can they do owt? They’re both running at 2/3 out of 10 on player vote, not cause they were poor at what they did but that they had nothing to do.

Busiest players today were defence and Cooper, least occupied at their job was attackers, that’s the systems fault not the players.
 

Too slow and ponderous with the usual sideways and backwards passing. Anel and Robbo are terrible for it. There were numerous times today when the front 2 were making runs wanting the ball over the top, but our defence's first thoughts are to not attempt a forward pass.

Clarke was constantly asking for ball first half and willing Anel to come forward with it - which he rarely did.

As others have said, having Souza and Hamza at the side of each other nullifies us playing it through the middle like Arblaster and Davies do.
Rotate these 2 players with a more attacking playmaker at the side of them.

Play Hamer centrally, BBD on the left and JRS on thr right. Rotate between Campbell, Cannon and Brewster.

Can't wait until Seriki is back in the squad anyone know when he's likely to be back?

Play the same as we did today against Boro and they will destroy us. Not looking forward to Wed night if I'm honest.

Campbell needs to start again so hopefully the team against Boro will resemble something like:

Cooper

Clarke Anel Robbo Burrows

Souza/Choudhury Peck/Davies

JRS Hamer BBD

Campbell
 
We have two strikers who really don’t like playing up front on their own so I get why he played both Campbell and Cannon. Why do we need two defensive midfield players? We have two centre backs who are poor at progressing the ball up the pitch but neither Souza and Choudhary made them selves available or were receiving the ball facing the wrong way. It is all ponderous and sideways. Peck came on and injected a bit of pace, he often plays similar balls to those already mentioned but doesn’t take 3 minutes to do it and then he immediately moves to make himself available. Portsmouth actually played in a way which should have benefitted us, they didn’t sit back, so we’re ripe for hitting quickly on the break. Same as Hull. But we didn’t try this. I am not going to jump on Wilders back but in his post match interview he said he got into the players at half time, but nothing changed in the second half, to me that has in part down to not changing things at half time and that does necessarily mean substitutes but tactics
 
Houston_Blade said:
Throwing the players under the bus and claiming it wasn’t tactics is very wide of the mark.

If he sets a side up with Hamza and Vini in the middle and expects anything other than slow, ponderous, attritional football then he’s stealing a living.

The players might be tossing it off and think they’re better than they are but they aren’t being taught a clear way of playing other than piss around until pressed then boot it down the line or hope that Hamer pulls something out of his arse.
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Wilder was fkin horrendous today
 
blades_95 said:
He did but I’d argue you play Hamer anywhere across the midfield he’ll do something - he’s a fantastic player.

But do you honestly think we’re getting the best out of him in that position? What about BBD out on the right, O’Hare on the left last week?

They’re good players & can still do something positive, doesn’t mean we’re playing to their strengths & getting the most out of them.
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It’s possible that there are other reasons that BBD looks ineffective.
 
We have half a dozen new players to bed in, chill out a bit FFS. 2nd in the league, imagine the bedpiss if we werent.
 
It took Wilder a couple of games to work out that Burrows cannot play in CM.
Hope he's already realising that two no.6's doesn't work either, especially at home.
We are packed with attacking options now, lose Hamza or Vini and finally play Gus in his best position.
 
Shawy24 said:
No. He came from the left where he was stuck but there’s no way he cut in from the left wing. He scored from left of centre of the D I believe. Roughly where he ought to be
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Differentiating between “cutting in”and “came from” is a little semantical is it not ?
 
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Moore will probably get straight in side when he’s back. And he’ll play 2 up top but might Moore will be the first one on team sheet .
 
Snowflake said:
Differentiating between “cutting in”and “came from” is a little semantical is it not ?
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No not really. It’s the “cutting in”that makes it sound like he’s gone down the wing hogging the line and then come inside. Jesurun cuts in because he’s a winger. I’ve never seen Hamer do that. He’s playing a different game to a classical winger. Still I know what you mean.
 
Houston_Blade said:
Throwing the players under the bus and claiming it wasn’t tactics is very wide of the mark.

If he sets a side up with Hamza and Vini in the middle and expects anything other than slow, ponderous, attritional football then he’s stealing a living.

The players might be tossing it off and think they’re better than they are but they aren’t being taught a clear way of playing other than piss around until pressed then boot it down the line or hope that Hamer pulls something out of his arse.
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Why are you crying? We're second!!!!

Blah, blah, fucking blah.

I am so bored watching us it's actually scary
 

I should coco said:
Managers need a big ego because after a couple of bad results, the bedwetting on here want them out.



Coming on here with yer' actual facts! Our forum experts know far more about managing a professional football team, than Wikder ever will.
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Wikder...Fraudulent slip?
 
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