‘It wasn’t anything to do with tactics today’

[CaptainHotdog]

So we all recognise today was a poor performance. We got away with one.

Our manager comes out and says this. Acknowledging the players failed to do the basics.

Not many would’ve been unhappy with that starting 11 today.

Yet we have fans wanting to go in on Wilder? Ffs we’re 2nd in the league. Would be on the same points as Leeds if not for the points deduction.

Just remember the club you’re supporting. We’re not Villa or Newcastle when they dropped out the PL. Nobody had us competing for the title before the season began. We’ve had injury issues throughout, lost 2 of our most influential players for the season. Had to bring 5 in cos we had a bench of unproven kids.

Poor performance from the players. Wilder is doing a fine job.

 

[dc_blade]

Wikder...Fraudulent slip?

Sigmund Fraud.

 

[jono_t2000]

So we all recognise today was a poor performance. We got away with one.

Our manager comes out and says this. Acknowledging the players failed to do the basics.

Not many would’ve been unhappy with that starting 11 today.

Yet we have fans wanting to go in on Wilder? Ffs we’re 2nd in the league. Would be on the same points as Leeds if not for the points deduction.

Just remember the club you’re supporting. We’re not Villa or Newcastle when they dropped out the PL. Nobody had us competing for the title before the season began. We’ve had injury issues throughout, lost 2 of our most influential players for the season. Had to bring 5 in cos we had a bench of unproven kids.

Poor performance from the players. Wilder is doing a fine job.

I agree to some extent, Wilder is doing a fine job because he is a good man manager and gets players to give 110%. But what happens when they no longer respond to that or physically can't give 110% in a long grueling season.

I am still for from convinced with his tactical ability and ability to identify the right players needed.

It will take something dramatic to convince me otherwise I'm afraid.

 

[thehet]

This Hamer in the middle stuff makes me laugh.

He’s been our best player, from the left.
He scored today, from the left.
He scored against Watford, from the left.
We’ve been in the top two all season and he’s played, from the left.

What he did once upon a time for Coventry is irrelevant. We’re not Coventry.

Our problems are nothing to do with Hamer playing from the left and not in the middle.

It’s our inability to defend properly and our woeful build-up play.

 

[GymClassHero]

So we all recognise today was a poor performance. We got away with one.

Our manager comes out and says this. Acknowledging the players failed to do the basics.

Not many would’ve been unhappy with that starting 11 today.

Yet we have fans wanting to go in on Wilder? Ffs we’re 2nd in the league. Would be on the same points as Leeds if not for the points deduction.

Just remember the club you’re supporting. We’re not Villa or Newcastle when they dropped out the PL. Nobody had us competing for the title before the season began. We’ve had injury issues throughout, lost 2 of our most influential players for the season. Had to bring 5 in cos we had a bench of unproven kids.

Poor performance from the players. Wilder is doing a fine job.

Mate I've genuinely had this exact opinion up until today. Yes we are second but honestly the performances are concerning. I don't expect us to piss the league, walk over teams yada yada yada, but it is not arrogant or unreasonable to expect the team to show it's quality against lesser opposition. We have a very strong squad and should rightly go into games against relegation threatened teams with some level of expectation.

Wilder pulled that card in the post match interview, and it's just an easy way to excuse a shite performance. Our fan base is far from arrogant.

 

[unitedbhoy]

Wilder has no excuse in post match interviews now. The poor performances can’t be blamed on having kids or injuries anymore.

I’m hoping all these new players click into gear but the system/selection is baffling.

BBD is nowhere near technically good enough to play as a right forward trying to cut inside, he’s a runner who needs to be on the left getting past people.

Souza and choudhury together are a no no that’s clear as day.

Campbell / cannon should be be central not sticking Campbell out wide.

It looked like they’d all been thrown together and crossed fingers it works.

 

[SUFCinks]

Agree with a lot of the comments in here. Theres not too much more i can say that I haven’t been saying for months but the style of play is awful, his tactics are basic, his transfers are odd, his ego is irritating and there is no signs of change after more than half a season.

We are 2nd because of Hamer snd small moments of individual quality. We’d be fucked without him and with all these components wrong next season we are sleepwalking into a big trouble.

30 games is a decent amount of time to put your stamp/identity on the club, but I’m not seeing much progress. I’m just not a fan of this version of Wilder and our club won’t progress with him at the helm. He’s not than man to stabilise us in the prem based on our performances, tactics & transfers.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Moore will probably get straight in side when he’s back. And he’ll play 2 up top but might Moore will be the first one on team sheet .

Good

Hoped I wouldn't be saying that but we clearly need an option to bang it up to

And frankly I'd much rather watch a full on direct approach than whatever the fuck we're supposed to be doing currently

 

[Antarctic Monkey]

The CB pairing, the CM and the striker pairing were all wrong choices. Shoehorning your 11 best players onto the pitch is not a tactic.

 

[Bookers Mullet]

If wilder wants to see arrogance he should look in a mirror

 

[jono_t2000]

The CB pairing, the CM and the striker pairing were all wrong choices. Shoehorning your 11 best players onto the pitch is not a tactic.

So in other words, every part of our spine was wrong.

(Add that to playing BBD on the wrong side and there wasn't much that was actually right!)

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

This refusal to accept fault for anything was the start of his downward spiral last time and it's been apparent this time for quite a while. The new owners being new naturally didn't pick up on this Wilder specific indicator and subsequently gave him a long new contract which they'll likely have to pay up within a year

 

[Bladezz]

A VERY concerning and frankly baffling quote from Wilder.

Pompey didn’t just ‘run around more’ they completely controlled the game, exploited our weakness stopping & defending crosses and should’ve scored 4/5 easily. Meanwhile we persisted with tapping it across defence, back to Cooper & launching it forward.

Last 2 performances have been very concerning in all honesty & we’ve only got away with it because we played two lesser teams. This weird 4-4-2 does not work whatsoever and playing our best attacking players out of position is weirdly stubborn from Wilder. We’ve changed from the formation that got us to 2nd after finally getting a natural LW in - why?

Hamer plays 10 or so minutes in his natural position second half and turns the game in our favour. We have the best player in the division - stop wasting him out wide.

Play our best attackers in their natural positions & let them do what they do best:

JRS - Hamer - BBD
Cannon or Campbell

Then we have either Cannon or Campbell to come on along with Moore, Brewster, O’Hare, Brooks.

It seems blindingly obvious & this weird experiment needs to stop on Wednesday.

I think this point sums up the average football fan.

You’ve moaned about attacking issues. We scored 2 and we should have had 3.

Defensively it was a horror show. Your argument for tactics would be we should have started 5 at the back? Or a midfield 3 etc. The forward players produced even if it wasn’t the fancy show we would like.

It’s a thing for our fan base at the moment to moan more about where Hamer should start than a horror defensive show.

Yesterday was a horror show defensively it wasn’t Cannons fault that Anel performed a 0/10. It wasn’t Campbells fault we didn’t win any first balls. It wasn’t Hamers fault Clarke got skinned alive.

The issue yesterday was the back 4 performance and the 2 centre midfield not winning second balls. You can and should moan about that.

But as is trendy you moan about the forward line.

 

[Bladezz]

So we all recognise today was a poor performance. We got away with one.

Our manager comes out and says this. Acknowledging the players failed to do the basics.

Not many would’ve been unhappy with that starting 11 today.

Yet we have fans wanting to go in on Wilder? Ffs we’re 2nd in the league. Would be on the same points as Leeds if not for the points deduction.

Just remember the club you’re supporting. We’re not Villa or Newcastle when they dropped out the PL. Nobody had us competing for the title before the season began. We’ve had injury issues throughout, lost 2 of our most influential players for the season. Had to bring 5 in cos we had a bench of unproven kids.

Poor performance from the players. Wilder is doing a fine job.

It’s how our fan base is.

We looked like conceding 100 goals yesterday. Wilder has begged and screamed for centre backs for 3 windows now.

But it’s Wilders fault Anel decided to not defend yesterday.

If you want a dig at Wilder it wouldn’t be for tactics it would be why is Anel now performing like he’s not a professional footballer and why is he not fixing it.

 

[Eskimo]

Gerrimart?
Wilder has been forced into acquiring new players due to all the injuries. Luckily he’s been supported to do so. Now he has to find a playing formula that works again and it will take time. It might not work. No one knows.

 

[Caseh]

It’s how our fan base is.

We looked like conceding 100 goals yesterday. Wilder has begged and screamed for centre backs for 3 windows now.

But it’s Wilders fault Anel decided to not defend yesterday.

If you want a dig at Wilder it wouldn’t be for tactics it would be why is Anel now performing like he’s not a professional footballer and why is he not fixing it.

It's wilders fault we're still using Robbo and Anel together at the back. He chose to spend all our budget on a striker that doesn't fix any issues, and has brought in a right back that while good going forward WILL make us worse defensively.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

A VERY concerning and frankly baffling quote from Wilder.

Pompey didn’t just ‘run around more’ they completely controlled the game, exploited our weakness stopping & defending crosses and should’ve scored 4/5 easily. Meanwhile we persisted with tapping it across defence, back to Cooper & launching it forward.

Last 2 performances have been very concerning in all honesty & we’ve only got away with it because we played two lesser teams. This weird 4-4-2 does not work whatsoever and playing our best attacking players out of position is weirdly stubborn from Wilder. We’ve changed from the formation that got us to 2nd after finally getting a natural LW in - why?

Hamer plays 10 or so minutes in his natural position second half and turns the game in our favour. We have the best player in the division - stop wasting him out wide.

Play our best attackers in their natural positions & let them do what they do best:

JRS - Hamer - BBD
Cannon or Campbell

Then we have either Cannon or Campbell to come on along with Moore, Brewster, O’Hare, Brooks.

It seems blindingly obvious & this weird experiment needs to stop on Wednesday.

Once we went back to our usual style we looked better. The 4-4-2 didn’t work at all. We had no width or cover for the defenders. The two upfront were completely isolated.

His comments worried me too. He’s desperate to play Cannon due to the fee we’ve paid but I think we’d have been better off with Campbell up top on his own today with Rak-Sakyi & Hamer or BBD either side & Hamer or O’hare in the hole.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

I think he's right and he's wrong.

A lot of the basic stuff just wasn't there and that's not on him. He set us up in a way that should have been at least defensively solid, with two DMs protecting the back four and, while I don't like the CB partnership, it's not crazy to play them rather than throwing Holding straight in. People can't complain about him playing too many new players, but then about not playing enough. Yet, it was awful defensively. I also want to see Hamer playing more centrally, but he scored from the left and was our best player, so I can't criticise him too much for that. BBD scored from the right last week, with Cannon assisting, so those selections weren't crazy either.

However, there were things wrong tactically too and I think the opposition exploited that and I think the manager took too long to change it.

 

[KiwiBlabe]

Never his fault. Got an ego the size of a fucking continent.

A bit like the chip on your shoulder about him. Change the tune

 

[Bell4]

Moore will probably get straight in side when he’s back. And he’ll play 2 up top but might Moore will be the first one on team sheet .

I hope so because we need someone to challenge the opponents ch if we keep booting it

 

[Bookers Mullet]

It’s how our fan base is.

We looked like conceding 100 goals yesterday. Wilder has begged and screamed for centre backs for 3 windows now.

But it’s Wilders fault Anel decided to not defend yesterday.

If you want a dig at Wilder it wouldn’t be for tactics it would be why is Anel now performing like he’s not a professional footballer and why is he not fixing it.

He had 10 million quid, surely could have got a centre half for that, and like you say he had time to identify several

 

[HermitageBlade]

One of the main reasons for us not progressing the ball out from the back is Robinson. Almost every ball is sideways or backwards and when he does play it forward it’s telegraphed. Sorry I know some people love the one big tackle per game but he is woeful.

 

[Bell4]

So we all recognise today was a poor performance. We got away with one.

Our manager comes out and says this. Acknowledging the players failed to do the basics.

Not many would’ve been unhappy with that starting 11 today.

Yet we have fans wanting to go in on Wilder? Ffs we’re 2nd in the league. Would be on the same points as Leeds if not for the points deduction.

Just remember the club you’re supporting. We’re not Villa or Newcastle when they dropped out the PL. Nobody had us competing for the title before the season began. We’ve had injury issues throughout, lost 2 of our most influential players for the season. Had to bring 5 in cos we had a bench of unproven kids.

Poor performance from the players. Wilder is doing a fine job.

If Wilder carries on like this he will be out of a job

 

[Carlton Blade]

This Hamer in the middle stuff makes me laugh.

He’s been our best player, from the left.
He scored today, from the left.
He scored against Watford, from the left.
We’ve been in the top two all season and he’s played, from the left.

What he did once upon a time for Coventry is irrelevant. We’re not Coventry.

Our problems are nothing to do with Hamer playing from the left and not in the middle.

It’s our inability to defend properly and our woeful build-up play.

Who created the space for the reverse pass from a more central attacking position? Who do you want on the ball near goal as often as possible?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

A VERY concerning and frankly baffling quote from Wilder.

Pompey didn’t just ‘run around more’ they completely controlled the game, exploited our weakness stopping & defending crosses and should’ve scored 4/5 easily. Meanwhile we persisted with tapping it across defence, back to Cooper & launching it forward.

Last 2 performances have been very concerning in all honesty & we’ve only got away with it because we played two lesser teams. This weird 4-4-2 does not work whatsoever and playing our best attacking players out of position is weirdly stubborn from Wilder. We’ve changed from the formation that got us to 2nd after finally getting a natural LW in - why?

Hamer plays 10 or so minutes in his natural position second half and turns the game in our favour. We have the best player in the division - stop wasting him out wide.

Play our best attackers in their natural positions & let them do what they do best:

JRS - Hamer - BBD
Cannon or Campbell

Then we have either Cannon or Campbell to come on along with Moore, Brewster, O’Hare, Brooks.

It seems blindingly obvious & this weird experiment needs to stop on Wednesday.

I take what you're saying, but Hamer isn't a no 10.

 

[Carlton Blade]

The few times the 4 central CB/DMs decided to actually attempt a forward pass, we looked dangerous. It was blindingly obvious that those 4 woyld struggle to get the ball forward without hoofing it before we even signed HC.

Thinking you can play them, plus BBD wide right and those 2 up front, with no central AM to receive the ball is worryingly bad tactical set up

There were times when Cannon and Campbell were with their CBs and the DMs were in our half. 2 Pompey passes and they were on 30 yards of central space and able to choose which wing they attacked. To come out that way again, 2nd half? Yeesh

All done to accommodate Cannon. I still think Cannon can be effective late on in games as a sub. But I don't think we have the time to try and reset the team to start him.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I take what you're saying, but Hamer isn't a no 10.

Who do you want on the ball trying to create chances, 30 yards from goal?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Who do you want on the ball trying to create chances, 30 yards from goal?

Jay fucking McEveley.

 

[Davalon]

It was everything to do with team selection and set up.

We looked far more balanced with Peck and Rak-Sakyi

 

[crazyblade1889]

So we all recognise today was a poor performance. We got away with one.

Our manager comes out and says this. Acknowledging the players failed to do the basics.

Not many would’ve been unhappy with that starting 11 today.

Yet we have fans wanting to go in on Wilder? Ffs we’re 2nd in the league. Would be on the same points as Leeds if not for the points deduction.

Just remember the club you’re supporting. We’re not Villa or Newcastle when they dropped out the PL. Nobody had us competing for the title before the season began. We’ve had injury issues throughout, lost 2 of our most influential players for the season. Had to bring 5 in cos we had a bench of unproven kids.

Poor performance from the players. Wilder is doing a fine job.

Another Wilder arse-licker who refuses to accept facts that although Wilder is a good motivator, tactically he’s not good. He clearly has limitations which is why Premier league and a fair few Championship teams have been reluctant to hire him in the past.