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So, with the impending sale of Moore there's talk of needing another striker with our options currently being:

Cannon
Campbell
One

but I think we're looking at it wrong. We've been playing 4:3:3 all pre-seasons with a number of players in the front 3:

Cannon
Campbell
One
Barry
Brooks
Ukaki
Caceres

I also think either Hamer or O'Hare will also feature in the front 3, so I'm not sure that area is a priority.

For me, our priority is a CB, a CB/RB or a CB and a RB. Then probably a CM to cover Arblaster.
 

So, with the impending sale of Moore there's talk of needing another striker with our options currently being:

Cannon
Campbell
One

but I think we're looking at it wrong. We've been playing 4:3:3 all pre-seasons with a number of players in the front 3:

Cannon
Campbell
One
Barry
Brooks
Ukaki
Caceres

I also think either Hamer or O'Hare will also feature in the front 3, so I'm not sure that area is a priority.

For me, our priority is a CB, a CB/RB or a CB and a RB. Then probably a CM to cover Arblaster.
That’s my take too.

As soon as you bring in Soumaré and Iroegbunam that midfield looks far too congested.

You have those two more defensive, Arblaster or Peck or Davies more of an all-rounder and Hamer, O’Hare and Caceres more attacking.

I know Barry has started there but imagine a left hand side of Burrows-Hamer-O’Hare. That’s so creative. On the right side you could end up with three Academy lads who’ve known each other a good few years in Seriki-Arblaster/Peck-Brooks.

It could be a breakthrough year for Marsh for all we know.

If we had that right and left which I’d say is very acceptable, you’ve still got Campbell, Cannon, Oné, Marsh and Barry who can play centrally and Ukaki there too.

Selles blooded young players at Reading. I do agree a right back is needed, especially with Seriki looking a bit fragile at times. As pros though we do have Seriki, Shackleton, Polendakov, Curtis, Sachdev.

I appreciate that Shackleton and Davies have injury histories who’d mean we don’t count on them but you’d hope they have some availability. Before injury I’m not sure Sachdev was that far away from being developed as a back up. He made his debut at Stoke three seasons back, unlucky to get a bad injury last season. We do have bodies just perhaps lacking experience.
 
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That’s my take too.

As soon as you bring in Soumaré and Iroegbunam that midfield looks far too congested.

You have those two more defensive, Arblaster or Peck or Davies more of an all-rounder and Hamer, O’Hare and Caceres more attacking.

I know Barry has started there but imagine a left hand side of Burrows-Hamer-O’Hare. That’s so creative. On the right side you could end up with three Academy lads who’ve known each other a good few years in Seriki-Arblaster/Peck-Brooks.

It could be a breakthrough year for Marsh for all we know.

If we had that right and left which I’d say is very acceptable, you’ve still got Campbell, Cannon, Oné, Marsh and Barry who can play centrally and Ukaku there too.

Selles blooded young players at Reading. I do agree a right back is needed, especially with Seriki looking a bit fragile at times. As pros though we do have Seriki, Shackleton, Polendakov, Curtis, Sachdev.

I appreciate that Shackleton and Davies have injury histories who’d mean we don’t count on them but you’d hope they have some availability. Before injury I’m not sure Sachdev was that far away from being developed as a back up. He made his debut at Stoke three seasons back, unlucky to get a bad injury last season. We do have bodies just perhaps lacking experience.
...or assured quality. Huge promise and potential but it's a lot of expectation to place on young shoulders.
 
So, with the impending sale of Moore there's talk of needing another striker with our options currently being:

Cannon
Campbell
One

but I think we're looking at it wrong. We've been playing 4:3:3 all pre-seasons with a number of players in the front 3:

Cannon
Campbell
One
Barry
Brooks
Ukaki
Caceres

I also think either Hamer or O'Hare will also feature in the front 3, so I'm not sure that area is a priority.

For me, our priority is a CB, a CB/RB or a CB and a RB. Then probably a CM to cover Arblaster.

Whilst it’s not a number one priority. We definitely need another ‘forward’

Cannon and Campbell I think could be decent striking options at this level. Cannon has scored and assisted for Selles frequently in preseason so hopefully could start to repay some of his fee.

One is still raw and looked a long way off last season. I liked what I saw in preseason but he needs to be brought along at the right pace.

Ukaki and caceres I’m not sure are proper squad options just yet.

Brooks and Barry look like good options and I’m hoping it could be a bit of a breakout season for brooks in particular.

However, Another wide player is a must for me. Gives us more options and strength off the bench. It Makes the squad much stronger overall to overcome form and injuries.

2 CB
1 RB
1 CM
1 FW/winger

Are required if we are serious about wanting to challenge at the top end. Leeds and Burnley were (and Ipswich and Southampton will be) relying on much more proven options than caceres/ukaki/one for my money.
 
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...or assured quality. Huge promise and potential but it's a lot of expectation to place on young shoulders.
Very true. But maybe they will be the hallmark of this manager.

If he hadn’t blooded Bindon he wouldn’t have got his move to Forest and he wouldn’t have been one of the best centre halves in League One.
 
So, with the impending sale of Moore there's talk of needing another striker with our options currently being:

Cannon
Campbell
One

but I think we're looking at it wrong. We've been playing 4:3:3 all pre-seasons with a number of players in the front 3:

Cannon
Campbell
One
Barry
Brooks
Ukaki
Caceres

I also think either Hamer or O'Hare will also feature in the front 3, so I'm not sure that area is a priority.

For me, our priority is a CB, a CB/RB or a CB and a RB. Then probably a CM to cover Arblaster.
For once I almost agree with you. Not sure we need another CM.
 
That’s my take too.

As soon as you bring in Soumaré and Iroegbunam that midfield looks far too congested.

You have those two more defensive, Arblaster or Peck or Davies more of an all-rounder and Hamer, O’Hare and Caceres more attacking.

I know Barry has started there but imagine a left hand side of Burrows-Hamer-O’Hare. That’s so creative. On the right side you could end up with three Academy lads who’ve known each other a good few years in Seriki-Arblaster/Peck-Brooks.

It could be a breakthrough year for Marsh for all we know.

If we had that right and left which I’d say is very acceptable, you’ve still got Campbell, Cannon, Oné, Marsh and Barry who can play centrally and Ukaku there too.

Selles blooded young players at Reading. I do agree a right back is needed, especially with Seriki looking a bit fragile at times. As pros though we do have Seriki, Shackleton, Polendakov, Curtis, Sachdev.

I appreciate that Shackleton and Davies have injury histories who’d mean we don’t count on them but you’d hope they have some availability. Before injury I’m not sure Sachdev was that far away from being developed as a back up. He made his debut at Stoke three seasons back, unlucky to get a bad injury last season. We do have bodies just perhaps lacking experience.
I think it would have be madness to have a midfield 3 of Hamer-Peck-O'Hare in the Championship so I assume one of those two was always likely to play at least a fair portion of their time further forward.

If we're pressing high then I assume we'll be making a lot of early subs so everyone will be getting a go.

I don't think any of those right backs other than Seriki should be relied on. Sachdev wasn't ready before the injury. Will likely have a youth loan if he's recovered before January and then a L1/2 loan depending on how that goes. Curtis isn't good enough. Shackleton will be off dogging. Polendakov will need some experience of English football.
 
For once I almost agree with you. Not sure we need another CM.
That would likely depend on the shake of the dogger and the model. If they're both going to be unavailable then we're a little short.
 
That’s my take too.

As soon as you bring in Soumaré and Iroegbunam that midfield looks far too congested.

You have those two more defensive, Arblaster or Peck or Davies more of an all-rounder and Hamer, O’Hare and Caceres more attacking.

I know Barry has started there but imagine a left hand side of Burrows-Hamer-O’Hare. That’s so creative. On the right side you could end up with three Academy lads who’ve known each other a good few years in Seriki-Arblaster/Peck-Brooks.

It could be a breakthrough year for Marsh for all we know.

If we had that right and left which I’d say is very acceptable, you’ve still got Campbell, Cannon, Oné, Marsh and Barry who can play centrally and Ukaki there too.

Selles blooded young players at Reading. I do agree a right back is needed, especially with Seriki looking a bit fragile at times. As pros though we do have Seriki, Shackleton, Polendakov, Curtis, Sachdev.

I appreciate that Shackleton and Davies have injury histories who’d mean we don’t count on them but you’d hope they have some availability. Before injury I’m not sure Sachdev was that far away from being developed as a back up. He made his debut at Stoke three seasons back, unlucky to get a bad injury last season. We do have bodies just perhaps lacking experience.

Do you think we will still go for iroebunam? I’d assumed he was an option if we didn’t get the lad from Braga? Work permits etc

Be surprised if we went for such a similar loan. Unless he’s going for the wilder trick. When he ended up loaning 3 right backs for no apparent reason.

But perhaps a potential Haner sale and the blaster / Davies injuries mean we might still be keen.
 
For now I think we still need a back up right centre back for starters. A loan would be preferable.

Once the season starts we'll know if Bindon is up to Championship standards. If he is then we bring in a back up CB on loan.

As for left and right wing, again we need to wait for the season to start to see how Barry, One and Ukaki perform. If they're up to Championship standard then we don't need anymore wingers. If they're not then there's more work to be done.

This is why I have no problem with us not signing any many players so far. Because we don't need to until we know how some players settle into the demands of the Championship.

Anything else until then is just needless panic buying.
 
Do you think we will still go for iroebunam? I’d assumed he was an option if we didn’t get the lad from Braga? Work permits etc

Be surprised if we went for such a similar loan. Unless he’s going for the wilder trick. When he ended up loaning 3 right backs for no apparent reason.

But perhaps a potential Haner sale and the blaster / Davies injuries mean we might still be keen.
Jimmy Ramble seems pretty sure on it when I listened the other day. There was no suggestion it was either/or. I suppose we have Davies and Arblaster they we can’t fully count upon plus others we can use further forward. We can probably squeeze him in.
 
Campbell can't play 90 minutes. And is also highly likely to miss 6-7weeks of the season with injury. When he's not in the squad the attack will look very powder puff. If promotion is the aim of the game we absolutely need another quality forward.
 
Is Iroegbunam a done deal or something then? Im seeing lots of posters mention that he's on his way? Is it once Everton get Dewsbury-Hall done?
 
We look short I attack in my view. Campbell won’t last any full games Cannon has been awful so far and that just leaves One who is totally unproven. OHare can play 10 and so can Hamer so that helps but I’m surprised we are flogging Moore with no other target man. There will be many times we need a big man to attack but also defend set pieces.
 

Is Iroegbunam a done deal or something then? Im seeing lots of posters mention that he's on his way? Is it once Everton get Dewsbury-Hall done?
Seen Jimmy Ramble and a few people on X suggesting that he's our top loan target and that we want to sign both him and Soumare.

If that is true, Dewsbury-Hall signing for Everton will probably free up Iroegbunam to join us.
 
Thing is we've not had much leaked with our UK targets, Bindon was last minute, Barry was leaked a week before, however, id love it if we got iroegbunam in!!
Seen Jimmy Ramble and a few people on X suggesting that he's our top loan target and that we want to sign both him and Soumare.

If that is true, Dewsbury-Hall signing for Everton will probably free up Iroegbunam to join us.
 
We've gone full circle though. Great attacking opportunities disappearing defence. Where we scraped 1 0 wins last year we need to be scoring more goals than we ship its going to be a high scoring opposite.
 
We look short I attack in my view. Campbell won’t last any full games Cannon has been awful so far and that just leaves One who is totally unproven. OHare can play 10 and so can Hamer so that helps but I’m surprised we are flogging Moore with no other target man. There will be many times we need a big man to attack but also defend set pieces.
Completely new style and system this season which can suit Cannon. I really hope no idiots are going to be moaning and groaning from minute 1.

We spent a lot of money on Cannon, fans need to support him. Stating the obvious, but a tricky concept for some.
 
A back up CB? We need CB starters and permanent ones surely?

Bindon and Robinson aren't here next summer.
Worry about that next summer when we know what division we're in. If we get promoted then we'd need better than we have anyway so sign them instead of tying up permanent players on long-term contracts who might not make the step up who we are then stuck with draining the wage bill.

Given I posted this pre all the Anel talk, I still stand by it. We need a permanent replacement for Anel now to partner Bindon, and don't rush bringing anyone else else in permanent until the season kicks off.
 
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Completely new style and system this season which can suit Cannon. I really hope no idiots are going to be moaning and groaning from minute 1.

We spent a lot of money on Cannon, fans need to support him. Stating the obvious, but a tricky concept for some.
I am more than happy to support him. But the fact is he has been awful so far. I would love it if he came good but we will see.
I still think we are short in attack currently.
 

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