Transfer committee

[Deleted member 1486]

Seem to be all the rage, and we need some sort of recruitment strategy (manager after manager has made disastrous decisions, leaving us where we are, a repeat of that is unthinkable!).

So, should we have a transfer committee? If so, who should be on it?

 

[SwissBlade]

Seem to be all the rage, and we need some sort of recruitment strategy (manager after manager has made disastrous decisions, leaving us where we are, a repeat of that is unthinkable!).

So, should we have a transfer committee? If so, who should be on it?

This is nothing new at United:
Wilson - Committee*
Weir - Committee (100% on this)
Clough - Committee**
Adkins - Committee (confirmed by Phipps)

*At the end of his tenure (at least)
**when he was appointed (at least)

Sean Thornton contested that there was one under Clough. When he was appointed there was certainly a committee as this was confirmed by Julian Winter at the time.

However, i don't know if this changed based upon what Sean Thornton mentioned a couple of months back and also McCabe, Phipps and others on here imply that he was solely in charge of his transfer budget...

 

[Deleted member 1486]

This is nothing new at United:
Wilson - Committee*
Weir - Committee (100% on this)
Clough - Committee**
Adkins - Committee (confirmed by Phipps)

*At the end of his tenure (at least)
**when he was appointed (at least)

Sean Thornton contested that there was one under Clough. When he was appointed there was certainly a committee as this was confirmed by Julian Winter at the time.

However, i don't know if this changed based upon what Sean Thornton mentioned a couple of months back and also McCabe, Phipps and others on here imply that he was solely in charge of his transfer budget...

well in that case....

#sackthecommittee

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sorted. So, who should be on the new committee?

 

[Deleted member 1486]

Being serious, surely the whole point of a committee is that they are accountable for transfers. To this end, they at least need to be publicly visible (i.e. we should ALL know who they are). Or is it just me who seems to be in the dark?

 

[Blade56]

Barney, William Henry Foulkes and Brian the Blade

 

[pommpey]

I think:

Kevin McCabe
His cat, Mavis
Kev's mum, she's getting on a bit, but can spot potential
Kevin McCabe {Oh, have I already mentioned him?)
Some bloke Kev knows, who 'knows' his football
Jim Phipps (note - if he wants a 'Quarterback', he means a Centre Back. And if he says 'touchdown', he means 'goal'. And if he says 'field goal', just ignore him)
Selhattin Baki, just in case the argument gets 'tasty'
Kevin McCabe
Nigel Adkins (note - just humour him. His vote doesn't count anyway.)

pommpey

 

[Hunkerby]

It should be made up of Adkins, our head of recruitment, and half a dozen full time scouts employed by the club who are proven talent evaluator's.
I suspect that the lack of the last element is responsible for poor recruitment.

 

[SwissBlade]

Being serious, surely the whole point of a committee is that they are accountable for transfers. To this end, they at least need to be publicly visible (i.e. we should ALL know who they are). Or is it just me who seems to be in the dark?

100% agree. It would be good if the club revealed whether there was a committee involved for the full tenure of Clough and also now who is involved in this Committee.

 

[SwissBlade]

It should be made up of Adkins, our head of recruitment, and half a dozen full time scouts employed by the club who are proven talent evaluator's.
I suspect that the lack of the last element is responsible for poor recruitment.

My understanding from the Weir/ Clough period was that the Committee was as follows:

- Operations Director (Dave McCarthy's equivalent)
- Football Club Manager
- Chief Scout
- Academy/ Development Manager

I think there was a Financial person mentioned as well, but can't remember fully as it was almost 3 years ago

 

[Kev Gee]

More importantly... Do we even have a scouting network? Who is our chief scout? And who are the scouts under him? Do we have any contacts abroad?
What are the aims on scouting targets? Promotion and getting players to achieve this aim in the short term? Or young playeds2 with potential?

 

[1889]

More importantly... Do we even have a scouting network? Who is our chief scout? And who are the scouts under him? Do we have any contacts abroad?
What are the aims on scouting targets? Promotion and getting players to achieve this aim in the short term? Or young playeds2 with potential?

A Utd scout told me four months ago, they'd been told, big strong athletes who can play 40+ games a season, is the remit?

Clearly they're in short supply, but it also suggests that Adkins thinks the current squad is too lighrweight for the physicality of League one.

I'd have thought, how and where they play in those 40+ games was quite important too but apparently that wasn't specified?

 

[dingledog]

Jim Phibbs, the invisible man, or is his nickname 'sicknote'.

Problem with committees is you usually end up with a Camel. How we've ended up with this load of dog Shite is beyond me.

 

[sitwell]

Jim Phibbs, the invisible man, or is his nickname 'sicknote'.

Problem with committees is you usually end up with a Camel. How we've ended up with this load of dog Shite is beyond me.

Jim Phibbs

 

[Bladeloyal]

We've got a piling contractor on the technical board a bloke that tried to reorganise Iraq (made a right job of that
A Turkish hoolie ,the invisible scout , and mr positive Adkins . Nurse can I have my medication .

 

[Hunkerby]

Adkins is a motivator and tactician - but he is not a scouting professional.
It's likely that Turnbull is the only person on the committee who is experienced in finding talented players.
He is most likely outvoted by a bunch of coaches and bean counters in suits.
No wonder the club never signs talented young players.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Adkins is a motivator and tactician - but he is not a scouting professional.
It's likely that Turnbull is the only person on the committee who is experienced in finding talented players.
He is most likely outvoted by a bunch of coaches and bean counters in suits.
No wonder the club never signs talented young players.

just spilled my coffee and fell of my stool laughing

 

[Sean Thornton]

just spilled my coffee and fell of my stool laughing

Not the only one !

 

[Blade82]

similar to the committee at our local working men's club. Set of useless twats who have no idea how to run a club or how to put on a good turn.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Adkins is a motivator and tactician - but he is not a scouting professional.
It's likely that Turnbull is the only person on the committee who is experienced in finding talented players.
He is most likely outvoted by a bunch of coaches and bean counters in suits.
No wonder the club never signs talented young players.

Is this post something the clever people call. . . . Irony?

 

[Bladeloyal]

Sheffield United the new Phoenix nights .its the future

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I think last season our “committee was basically Clough and Brannigan”. The fact that both were sacked and critical comments have been made about our transfer activity says something. But now we have Adkins and Turnbull. Perhaps we need somebody who is not an appointment of a manager who probably won’t be at the club for long taking his man with him. By all means, employ the likes of Simon Clough, Lee Turnbull etc. to be scouts but we need someone on the board who (a) knows a thing or two about football and (b) has a consistent blueprint for the type of players we are looking to bring in which would also mean that any manager or “head coach” would also have to be of a certain type to fit with the player recruitment strategy.


We’ve ambled from Robson (passing, not fight) to Blackwell (up and at em, hoof) to Speed (passing, difficult to judge in the short time he was there) to Adams (up and at em, hoof) to Wilson (passing, slick, just couldn’t quite get the job done) to Morgan (up and at em, hoof) to Weir (passing but atrocious) to Clough (mixed, defensive, counter-attacking, small players) to Adkins (more physical, tried to be gung ho- bigger players). The constant change of approach has meant that each manager has inherited players who are not suited to the way they want to play. In Blackwell’s case it was even more strange and he was initially kept on but told the style had to change so he brought in Jamie Ward, Leon Britton, Andy Taylor etc. who just weren’t suited to him at all.


We need to decide at the top how we want to play football. We need to put people in place to recruit players to play that way and we need to have a manager capable of playing that way.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Being serious, surely the whole point of a committee is that they are accountable for transfers. To this end, they at least need to be publicly visible (i.e. we should ALL know who they are). Or is it just me who seems to be in the dark?

"David Green, previously chairman of United’s football board, will also chair the technical board which directs player recruitment. Manager Nigel Adkins and senior members of his coaching staff are represented on the panel, alongside new player contract negotiation specialist Carl Shieber. A Loughborough University Business School scholar with an MBA in football industries, Shieber acted as United’s head of football administration between 2010 and 2012 before spending 11 months as their head of group co-ordination. Adkins, together with chief scout Lee Turnbull, maintain full authority for identifying transfer targets."

Read more: http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk...y-changes-at-the-lane-1-7611521#ixzz40nNL0200