Keith Edwards quote "Pathetic"

[shrubbery]

Yes, but the team hasn't fallen that far from last season. Its not as if were bottom of the league. Also remember that Murphy was double banked most of last season providing a lot of space that others didn't have the quality to exploit. He's one of the best wingers in the championship and worth a lot more money than they paid for him. Some blades predicted this . Disagree about the quality Adkins has had to work with: the worst back four since the 80s; the worst midfield I can remember; rookie goalkeeper (or a poor one). Many injury prone, unfit or poor players - even if they have talent (Brayford, Coutts, Baxter, Cuveliar, Flynn, Harris). These are all legacy players.

Do you honestly think that the team hasn't fallen that far from last season? seriously!?

 

[nopigfansintown]

This season - and next - is over with Adkins in charge. Play-offs are gone but the last 15 games and how we perform will be decisive as to the season tickets we sell for next season. There are just two options:

Keep Adkins, struggle to mid-table this year and start 2016-17 in front of 13-14k crowds. The gloom that has descended over BDTBL will deepen, Adkins will waste more money on his old, past-it mates and he'll get the boot at Christmas. Another season will have almost been wasted. Or...

Adkins goes and we get somebody - anybody - in. Wilder, Edinburgh who knows? What we do know is that Adkins has shit his potful with a lost season, full of embarrassing, humiliating defeats.

Don't feel it's our fault for being 'impatient' etc. We've been magnificently loyal this season but last night was the final straw. And console yourselves that some people will look back and say 'We didn't give Adkins* a chance.'

* Substitute Clough, Weir, Robson, Wilson, Blackwell. Truth is, they've all been fucking bad managers.

I would argue that this and next season are unlikely to result in promotion regardless of the manager is situ. Clough wanted seven expensive players and to keep Murphy. Adkins has also stated that he wants young hungry players in the summer, not journeymen (see Wigan programme). This is a two year rebuilding job for any new manager. I'd beg the question: why wasn't this approach started last summer?

 

[nopigfansintown]

Do you honestly think that the team hasn't fallen that far from last season? seriously!?

We were poor last season, we are poor this. We cant play open expansive football under either manager or we concede three goals. We cant play defensive, attritional football as were not good enough on the break (wheres Murphy?) and we're always likely to concede. Conclusion: we need good, young, fast players and to stop selling any scintilla of quality we've got. Another managerial appointment would be a diversion and more likely to make things worse than better.

 

[finlaytheblade]

A bit like every other time I've seen him play then. At 18 there's plenty of time either way.

My objection is to the jokers who suggest that players like him and DCL are our imminent future.

UTB

They may be our future but not our imminent future, I was quite surprised Adkins started them last night.After a terrible run of results culminating in a 6-0 rout at Coventry Bury were always going to show some reaction last night and we had to be ready for a battle,we obviously were not up to it, playing the two young lads and then subbing them will not do there confidence any good (contrary to what Edwards said).I'm not saying they should be protected from the harsh realities of 1st team football ,but that team hadn't got the battling qualities needed to support 2 young players who must have been wondering what the hells going on here,one could add Adams to the two
but he is physically more mature and able to cope with the aggression (which he can).
Adkins disappointed me there.
After our lack lustre win at Doncaster it didn't surprise me we were out battled last night ,too many soft touches in our squad.

 

[Grey Blade]

They may be our future but not our imminent future, I was quite surprised Adkins started them last night.After a terrible run of results culminating in a 6-0 rout at Coventry Bury were always going to show some reaction last night and we had to be ready for a battle,we obviously were not up to it, playing the two young lads and then subbing them will not do there confidence any good (contrary to what Edwards said).I'm not saying they should be protected from the harsh realities of 1st team football ,but that team hadn't got the battling qualities needed to support 2 young players who must have been wondering what the hells going on here,one could add Adams to the two
but he is physically more mature and able to cope with the aggression (which he can).
Adkins disappointed me there.
After our lack lustre win at Doncaster it didn't surprise me we were out battled last night ,too many soft touches in our squad.

I was surprised by the team selection on both Saturday and last night. Initially on Saturday I thought Adkins had decided to blood the youngsters, but then on reflection thought he was actually resting Basham, Coutts and Sharp and I fully expected them to be back at Bury. I was therefore very surprised to see last night's team and the inclusion of both DCL and Reed for the reasons you stated. DCL looked to be out his depth on Saturday and even more so last night and I would have thought the odd substitute appearance would be better for him - hopefully if and when we are comfortably in control of a game

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Don't blame Adkins he's a damned good physiotherapist.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

spunked his subs

Absolutely outstanding phraseology. Take a like.

 

[finlaytheblade]

I was surprised by the team selection on both Saturday and last night. Initially on Saturday I thought Adkins had decided to blood the youngsters, but then on reflection thought he was actually resting Basham, Coutts and Sharp and I fully expected them to be back at Bury. I was therefore very surprised to see last night's team and the inclusion of both DCL and Reed for the reasons you stated. DCL looked to be out his depth on Saturday and even more so last night and I would have thought the odd substitute appearance would be better for him - hopefully if and when we are comfortably in control of a game

That was my thoughts too grey blade
Dony arnt a physical team so it was a good opportunity to give them a game especially calvert-lewin

 

[grafikhaus]

....Gareth Ainsworth, Neil Redfearn, Ronnie Moore, Teddy Sherringham, Steve Cotteril, Pig Sheridan, David Dunn, Pig Sturrock, Steve Clarke, John Still, Dean Saunders, Gary Bowyer, Russ Wilcox, Uwe Rossler, Mark Cooper etc etc et-fucking-cetra.

Would you suggest we use the scientific tea leaf approach or the tried and tested 'lucky' heather / seaweed combo?

ISC

And so it goes. Because I (or anybody else, for that matter) can't name a ready-made replacement manager, any criticism of Adkins is not allowed? It's not my job - there are plenty of over-paid 'suits' who should be doing the search for a replacement.

All I know is, some people lament the passsing of Clough, Blackwell even Wilson. They gave us some good times and the promise - however brief - of good times ahead. Not Adkins. An utter failure on every count.

 

[beatific blade]

And so it goes. Because I (or anybody else, for that matter) can't name a ready-made replacement manager, any criticism of Adkins is not allowed? It's not my job - there are plenty of over-paid 'suits' who should be doing the search for a replacement.

All I know is, some people lament the passsing of Clough, Blackwell even Wilson. They gave us some good times and the promise - however brief - of good times ahead. Not Adkins. An utter failure on every count.

I'd invite any Premier League manager to come in and do any better. Nobody can come in and make this squad play better. I feel sorry for Adkins. The squad is terrible and that is the root of everything - caused by an omnifucktastrophe of 10 years of boardroom incompetence.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

They may be our future but not our imminent future, I was quite surprised Adkins started them last night.After a terrible run of results culminating in a 6-0 rout at Coventry Bury were always going to show some reaction last night and we had to be ready for a battle,we obviously were not up to it, playing the two young lads and then subbing them will not do there confidence any good (contrary to what Edwards said).I'm not saying they should be protected from the harsh realities of 1st team football ,but that team hadn't got the battling qualities needed to support 2 young players who must have been wondering what the hells going on here,one could add Adams to the two
but he is physically more mature and able to cope with the aggression (which he can).
Adkins disappointed me there.
After our lack lustre win at Doncaster it didn't surprise me we were out battled last night ,too many soft touches in our squad.

Couldn't agree more. When I knew the team it was obvious we'd be out fought.

Stood there last night and it depressed me more than at a game in a long time ... and like all had plenty of history of that !

 

[Fulwood Blade]

I'd beg the question: why wasn't this approach started last summer?

I have thought and asked the same question.

Adkins could have had a coffee with the majority of Blades fans pre-season and we all would have said similar things about most of the players.

To be fair, Adkins said he would give them all a chance - trouble is, he could be out of a job because of it which would be a shame.

What gets me about virtually every poster, is Wilkins and Crosby get no criticism at all - they are equally culpable as Adkins for not making at least some of the players better.

UTB

 

[grafikhaus]

I'd invite any Premier League manager to come in and do any better. Nobody can come in and make this squad play better. I feel sorry for Adkins. The squad is terrible and that is the root of everything - caused by an omnifucktastrophe of 10 years of boardroom incompetence.

Yes, the board would have sanctioned the sale of Murphy. But who farmed out - and refused to get him back from loan - McNulty*? Who got the lamentable Hammond and Woolford in? Whose team regularly gets humiliated by teams with far less support, infrastructure and resources?

* Some fans are partly to blame for this. They've been saying since early in the season that 'we're OK up front.' We're not, and never have been. Lose Sharp through injury or suspension and we've got nothing.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Keith Edwards wasted his real potential? Really?

253 league goals not enough for you?

No team play? Who took all the corners?

Jesus Christ.

Anyone who wins the golden boot can be forgiven for a bit of shit lining.

Edwards had much greater ability to play his football above divisions 2,3 and 4; that's the point surely; it's my point anyway. One of my heroes but he should have done much more with his career. As I said, his older self would be his own biggest critic as a player. It's easier from the stands. My missus always called him lazy and selfish and perhaps all the bigger clubs agreed.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Yes, the board would have sanctioned the sale of Murphy. But who farmed out - and refused to get him back from loan - McNulty*? Who got the lamentable Hammond and Woolford in? Whose team regularly gets humiliated by teams with far less support, infrastructure and resources?

* Some fans are partly to blame for this. They've been saying since early in the season that 'we're OK up front.' We're not, and never have been. Lose Sharp through injury or suspension and we've got nothing.

Pompey have signed a bigger centre forward and McNulty was sub last Saturday.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Edwards had much greater ability to play his football above divisions 2,3 and 4; that's the point surely; it's my point anyway. One of my heroes but he should have done much more with his career. As I said, his older self would be his own biggest critic as a player. It's easier from the stands. My missus always called him lazy and selfish and perhaps all the bigger clubs agreed.

Keith Edwards from a fans perspective was a hero at the lane .from a managers and team player aspect he was a nightmare. Talking to ex players you were either with him or against him no half measures.
With KE when things were going well the dressing room atmosphere was good , when Pete Tong it was bad.

A bit like comparison with the ongoing bad today we seem to be witnessing.

Anyway the past is the past , it's the future BDTBL has to sort out.

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

Keith Edwards from a fans perspective was a hero at the lane .from a managers and team player aspect he was a nightmare. Talking to ex players you were either with him or against him no half measures.
With KE when things were going well the dressing room atmosphere was good , when Pete Tong it was bad.

A bit like comparison with the ongoing bad today we seem to be witnessing.

Anyway the past is the past , it's the future BDTBL has to sort out.

UTB

I remember him not starting every game in the 82/3 season which I found hard to understand as a kid.
If he was a critical then as he is now I can imagine him being a pain in the arse at times.

 

[grafikhaus]

Pompey have signed a bigger centre forward and McNulty was sub last Saturday.

Yes, it's known as progression. Ambition. Kaisen. Any team serious about going up does things like this. United go backwards. If we had signed a bigger/better centre forward, McNulty may have been demoted to the bench. Unfortunately, we have neither McNulty or a 'bigger/better CF'.

One of the biggest - in a long list - of failures of our board is the inability to do forward thinking.

Did we have plans to replace Maguire? McDonald? Murphy? Clough? Are plans in place for Adkins' successor? The latter is staring them in the face. He'll either walk away or the fans will 'force' him out. (Nothing to do with his managerial performance, then.)

Of course the board don't do forward planning. Predictable events (all of the above) happen and they either panic or lie about 'money will be re-invested...'

 

[BushBlade]

Yes, it's known as progression. Ambition. Kaisen. Any team serious about going up does things like this. United go backwards. If we had signed a bigger/better centre forward, McNulty may have been demoted to the bench. Unfortunately, we have neither McNulty or a 'bigger/better CF'.

One of the biggest - in a long list - of failures of our board is the inability to do forward thinking.

Did we have plans to replace Maguire? McDonald? Murphy? Clough? Are plans in place for Adkins' successor? The latter is staring them in the face. He'll either walk away or the fans will 'force' him out. (Nothing to do with his managerial performance, then.)

Of course the board don't do forward planning. Predictable events (all of the above) happen and they either panic or lie about 'money will be re-invested...'

It's because they're continuously fire-fighting. No sooner had they sorted out the mess caused by Robson and Blackwell they started causing problems for Wilson by selling Blackman. In trying to deal with that they created more problems by then bringing in Weir. Then, to sort out that shit, they threw money at Clough which it seems they couldn't afford to do so now Adkins is suffering.
No doubt they'll sack Adkins, expect the new bloke to build an automatic promotion side in a month without adequate funds to do so. The new guy will end up with a team of second and third choices and when we fail in the playoffs, will get sacked. Then the new bloke will have to manage someone else's side.
And so it will continue until something brings it to a head.

 

[Sprite]

It's because they're continuously fire-fighting. No sooner had they sorted out the mess caused by Robson and Blackwell they started causing problems for Wilson by selling Blackman. In trying to deal with that they created more problems by then bringing in Weir. Then, to sort out that shit, they threw money at Clough which it seems they couldn't afford to do so now Adkins is suffering.
No doubt they'll sack Adkins, expect the new bloke to build an automatic promotion side in a month without adequate funds to do so. The new guy will end up with a team of second and third choices and when we fail in the playoffs, will get sacked. Then the new bloke will have to manage someone else's side.
And so it will continue until something brings it to a head.

Being there on Saturday & Tuesday I have to say Thursday night was abissmal and in no way was that down to Che or DCL. BOTH OF WHOM WERE SCREAMING for the ball and Brayford who had a very poor game never put the ball once up to DCL it was as though he thought he was a Bury player. Bury ran rings round our defence they must have had 75% possession throughout the game, thanks in the main to our appalling defence. I agree with K.E.Che & DCL were what kept me awake ,but the big boys did not include them (?)
Adkins needs to make changes to th team cohesion, his tactics and his realisation he made a poor substitution on Tuesday bringing Smart on was right but his move was poor. Needed someone else off. By the way how long as Dom Lewis been a winger.

 

[mosbolad]

Pompey have signed a bigger centre forward and McNulty was sub last Saturday.

No Woody! That doesn't fit in with the script now does it!

 

[Woodwardfan]

Yes, it's known as progression. Ambition. Kaisen. Any team serious about going up does things like this. United go backwards. If we had signed a bigger/better centre forward, McNulty may have been demoted to the bench. Unfortunately, we have neither McNulty or a 'bigger/better CF'.

One of the biggest - in a long list - of failures of our board is the inability to do forward thinking.

Did we have plans to replace Maguire? McDonald? Murphy? Clough? Are plans in place for Adkins' successor? The latter is staring them in the face. He'll either walk away or the fans will 'force' him out. (Nothing to do with his managerial performance, then.)

Of course the board don't do forward planning. Predictable events (all of the above) happen and they either panic or lie about 'money will be re-invested...'

It was also something to do with Pompey falling out of the auto-promotion race and the fact McNulty had stopped scoring goals. His goal as sub last weekend was his first for some time. His all round game is modest as we know.