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I think we definitely need to go back to it on Saturday.

I don't think Basham and Hammond will work in a 4-4-2 and I'm guessing they're likely to be the only combination (maybe Reed as well) who could do well in a 2 man midfield. Problem is neither of them are the kind of player who can put his foot on the ball and orchestrate play. If you played 3 and put Coutts, Baxter or Reed in there I think we'd create a lot more chances.

I don;t think we have the wide men for a 4-4-2 either. Done doesn't play well there and Adams is much more dangerous up front. Neither perform the defensive side of it well.Playing 4-4-2 last night relied on the wide men creating things and they struggled.

This, for me, would look our best starting XI

Howard
Beard (Freeman) Edgar (Collins) McGahey Wallace
Basham Baxter Hammond
Done Sharp Adams

It relies on Baxter dropping back to pick up the ball and start our attacks from deep with Hammond and Basham dropping to cover the Fullbacks as they provide the width.
 



Looked like 4-2-4 last night until Baxter came on and it went 4-3-3 with Baxter just in behind billy with Coutts and basham in behind him
 
I think we definitely need to go back to it on Saturday.

I don't think Basham and Hammond will work in a 4-4-2 and I'm guessing they're likely to be the only combination (maybe Reed as well) who could do well in a 2 man midfield. Problem is neither of them are the kind of player who can put his foot on the ball and orchestrate play. If you played 3 and put Coutts, Baxter or Reed in there I think we'd create a lot more chances.

I don;t think we have the wide men for a 4-4-2 either. Done doesn't play well there and Adams is much more dangerous up front. Neither perform the defensive side of it well.Playing 4-4-2 last night relied on the wide men creating things and they struggled.

This, for me, would look our best starting XI

Howard
Beard (Freeman) Edgar (Collins) McGahey Wallace
Basham Baxter Hammond
Done Sharp Adams

It relies on Baxter dropping back to pick up the ball and start our attacks from deep with Hammond and Basham dropping to cover the Fullbacks as they provide the width.

With Baxter deepest, do you think Hammond is mobile enough for a box to box role though?
 
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I think we definitely need to go back to it on Saturday.

I don't think Basham and Hammond will work in a 4-4-2 and I'm guessing they're likely to be the only combination (maybe Reed as well) who could do well in a 2 man midfield. Problem is neither of them are the kind of player who can put his foot on the ball and orchestrate play. If you played 3 and put Coutts, Baxter or Reed in there I think we'd create a lot more chances.

I don;t think we have the wide men for a 4-4-2 either. Done doesn't play well there and Adams is much more dangerous up front. Neither perform the defensive side of it well.Playing 4-4-2 last night relied on the wide men creating things and they struggled.

This, for me, would look our best starting XI

Howard
Beard (Freeman) Edgar (Collins) McGahey Wallace
Basham Baxter Hammond
Done Sharp Adams

It relies on Baxter dropping back to pick up the ball and start our attacks from deep with Hammond and Basham dropping to cover the Fullbacks as they provide the width.

I think this team is the best side we can put out

Howard
Beard (Freeman) Edgar (Collins) McGahey Wallace/Harris
Basham Baxter Hammond
Done Sharp Adams

with Long, Kennedy, Reed, JCR, Coutts and Sparky on the bench

I'd have Baxter playing just behind Sharp rather than further back. That will have to do till January when squad surgery is needed before 2 more quality players are brought in
 
Do you think brayford could play centre half in a back four ? Allowing freeman to continue at right back with harris left side ? Paired with one of edgar collins magahey or kennedy ?
 
Id like to see a 3-4-3 tried , allowing more control from midfield
Howard
Brayford. Kennedy Basham

Freeman. Hammond. Baxter. Done

Adams. Sammon. Sharp.
That's a bit gung-ho even for me! I'd like it but every game would be 4-3 or 3-4
 
Words fail me at times.

Last night we seemed to find a formula that worked (at home).

This football club needs a settled team, in settled positions and allow to grow into the season.

If we don't grow intro the season (and quickly) then all we will end up doing is playing catch up again.

All Tuesdays performance needed was some of the high tempo stuff we did in the 2nd half at some time in the first half, which would have led to no booing or discontent from the fans.

If we CHANGE again as some are suggesting, then all we will end up with is more inconsistent performances and disgruntled fans.

We need a SETTLED team !!!!!!!!!!!! argh....................

UTB
 



In all seriousness i would be content with

Howard

Brayford. Edgar. Kennedy. Freeman.

Basham. Hammond. Baxter

Adams. Sharp. Done.
 
I've said from the start of the season we should go 433. People are right tk say yesterday was 424 but JCR tucked in occasionally. It was a good performance but long term id stick 433, as we don't have the cm's to play 442. It also allows Done and Adams to get closer to goal, as sort of left and right forwards, rather than being stuck out wide. Those two with Sharp already look to be getting a good understanding where they interchange etc which should get even better as they play together.

As for the midfield 3, I'd probably go Baxter, Basham and Hammond but I'd also be perfectly happy with Reed or Coutts in there, or even an inform Scougall.
 
With Baxter deepest, do you think Hammond is mobile enough for a box to box role though?

I would think that most of the box to box work would be put in by Basham. Baxter would be a playmaker and can move around and Hammond would largely sit.
 
Seeing Hammond play and then Coutts, my first two on the teamsheet would be: Hammond and Coutts - proper footballers in midfield.

Moving on from there I'd list the next "most proper footballers" and I'd come up with: Reed, Baxter, Sharp, Done, Freeman, Brayford when fit, K.Wallace.

Then I'd pick my 4 brick shit-houses to play with the 7 proper footballers who happen to be fit for the next game, oh plus an odd "impact player" like Adams.

Then I'd sign a good keeper.



Nowthen, where was I? 3-5-2.
Howard for now, maybe even Long.

Back 3: McGahey, Collins, Basham.


Middle midfield: Coutts and Hammond.
Freeman (W/B) Baxter K.Wallace (W/B)

Done
Sharp

Key Subs: Adams, Reed, Sammon,

Brayford, Flynn, Harris, McNulty, Kennedy, Alcock to add.
 
if 4-3-3 then this would be a great opportunity to drop Collins and get Basham into defence.

Howard
Freeman McGahey Basham K.Wallace
Coutts Baxter Hammond
Done Sharp Adams

Subs
Long, Alcock, Collins, Reed, JCR, Sammon, McNulty
 
if 4-3-3 then this would be a great opportunity to drop Collins and get Basham into defence.

Howard
Freeman McGahey Basham K.Wallace
Coutts Baxter Hammond
Done Sharp Adams

Subs
Long, Alcock, Collins, Reed, JCR, Sammon, McNulty
That's what i would go with, playing Baxter as a CAM then if the game dictates he can drop a little deeper and pack out the midfield.

Also options with Collins and Edgar to come in if anyone drops form/gets injured.
 
A lot is made of the need to drop Collins but for me, he needs to play at the moment. He helps McGahey through games (like he did with Maguire in his early days). He’s also the only one who seems comfortable playing on the un-favoured left side.

I wouldn’t want to see Basham with McGahey. I think individually either is fine but neither has the experience of the position to lead the other. Collins with either one of those 2 for me at the back at present. When Edgar’s fit, if he can get his form back, might be able to then replace Collins but out of the current options, he is the CB that has to play for me.
 
Do you think brayford could play centre half in a back four ? Allowing freeman to continue at right back with harris left side ? Paired with one of edgar collins magahey or kennedy ?
NO.. my pet hate is square pegs in round holes.. the beard would probably have a go in goal is well but do we 'really' want him there??
 
Do you think brayford could play centre half in a back four ? Allowing freeman to continue at right back with harris left side ? Paired with one of edgar collins magahey or kennedy ?

Yes absolutely. Brayford already proved he was a better CB than anyone else at the club last season.
 
Id like to see a 3-4-3 tried , allowing more control from midfield
Howard
Brayford. Kennedy Basham

Freeman. Hammond. Baxter. Done

Adams. Sammon. Sharp.

if we're going that attacking why don't we dispense with howard, start diego instead and play rush keepers
 
I think the complaints we had about lack of movement on Tuesday night would be fixed with a 433. Basham and Hammond sitting, and having one other (Reed/Baxter/Coutts/Cuvelier[When Fit]) playing a free role in the middle of the park, popping up in the spaces between the oppositions Midfield and Defence.
 
If everyone was fit i'd try:

Howard
Brayford----Collins-----Edgar-----Harris
Hammond-----Basham
Adams---------Baxter----------Done
Sharp
 



If everyone was fit i'd try:

Howard
Brayford----Collins-----Edgar-----Harris
Hammond-----Basham
Adams---------Baxter----------Done
Sharp

This seems like it would work quite well to me. Naturally I'd prefer us to have a permanent option at CB rather than loan players, and if everyone's fit I'm starting Kennedy, but it's close to the best we have if Adkins insists on starting Sharp every game
 

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