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itsinyerblood
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Bollocks! Do you mean to say I can no longer wear my beloved flares? I love 'em man, they represent everything that matters to me...oh well, back to the everyday strides.
Grecian2000
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It's amazing. We get threads like the policing at Barnsley one where we all want to be treated with respect and then we get twats illegally taking (and throwing) flares into the ground and making sure we get treated like crims.
Can't have it all ways.
Can't have it all ways.
shorehamview
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Full statement -
United would again like to stress the Club's stance with regards to unacceptable behaviour by supporters at both home and away fixtures.
Recently, the Club handed bans of five years and three years respectively to two individuals found to be responsible for setting off pyrotechnics at Bramall Lane at last month's clash with Scunthorpe United.
The Blades continue to be pro-active in attempting to eliminate anti-social behaviour, particularly with regards to pyrotechnics. A joint operation with South Yorkshire Police commenced recently, following the installation of additional surveillance equipment at Bramall Lane and these bans are a direct result of this. It is expected that there will be further action as other offenders are identified.
A number of pyrotechnics and smoke bombs were discharged at Saturday's victory over Barnsley. The perpetrators have been identified and reported to the police, whilst United's managing director, Mal Brannigan, commented: "The incidents have been reported to the Football Association by the match officials and the actions of our 'supporters' could cost the Club both financially and in the form of sanctions, which we are obviously keen to avoid."
Saturday's incidents caused injury and damage to the clothing of several innocent Unitedites. Below is correspondence received from a Blade following flares thrown in the away end at Oakwell on Saturday...
Did you throw a flare on Saturday?
If so, please read this - particularly if you threw the second flare after we scored. I was sitting on the front row. To my left was my wife, my seven-year-old grandson and my daughter, together with a young disabled girl and her mother (who attend every game home and away.) To my right were two middle-aged ladies who I also see regularly at away matches. Compared to me, as mid-fifty-year-old, they were people who could reasonably be classed as 'vulnerable'.
As I turned round to face our fans, I saw your flare flying towards us. Fortunately I was able to push my wife out of the way and cover my grandson, and the flare hit me on the back, bouncing off my thick coat, singeing the fleece of the lady next to me, and landing on the gangway, so the only damage was to two coats. I realised afterwards, however, that I was extremely fortunate that the flare hadn't landed in my hood.
I am not judging you or demanding any punishment - that is for other people to decide. However, if you have been lucky enough to get away with it on this occasion, I would ask you to think very carefully about the possible consequences of what you did, and the serious injury you could have inflicted on one of YOUR OWN fans. Leaving aside the issue of a lifetime ban from the Club and other prosecution simply for throwing the flare, I want you to consider that, under very slightly different circumstances, you could well have been facing the possibility of a very serious charge and lengthy prison sentence, all as a consequence of a few drinks (perhaps) and the supposed 'thrill' of sneaking the flares in and throwing them.
I don't go to matches expecting to be surrounded by a bunch of saints who behave politely and don't swear. I do, however, expect my Club's fans to stick together and not act in such a way as to put fellow Blades in danger.
So think about it - is your matchday experience really enhanced by such actions? Or have you been lucky this time, and can you not only learn from it, but perhaps also tell your mates not to be so daft as well?
Pyrotechnic devices contain chemicals that burn at very high temperatures and are designed to be difficult to extinguish. They produce smoke that can cause breathing difficulties for everyone and are particularly dangerous for people with asthma. They're a serious health and safety risk for supporters and match officials alike, and a disaster waiting to happen.
The Club make no excuses for adopting a hard-line stance against anti-social behaviour and in particular those responsible for bringing in and letting off pyrotechnics at matches. If anyone has any information with regards to identifying those responsible, please contact us in confidence on [email protected]
United would again like to stress the Club's stance with regards to unacceptable behaviour by supporters at both home and away fixtures.
Recently, the Club handed bans of five years and three years respectively to two individuals found to be responsible for setting off pyrotechnics at Bramall Lane at last month's clash with Scunthorpe United.
The Blades continue to be pro-active in attempting to eliminate anti-social behaviour, particularly with regards to pyrotechnics. A joint operation with South Yorkshire Police commenced recently, following the installation of additional surveillance equipment at Bramall Lane and these bans are a direct result of this. It is expected that there will be further action as other offenders are identified.
A number of pyrotechnics and smoke bombs were discharged at Saturday's victory over Barnsley. The perpetrators have been identified and reported to the police, whilst United's managing director, Mal Brannigan, commented: "The incidents have been reported to the Football Association by the match officials and the actions of our 'supporters' could cost the Club both financially and in the form of sanctions, which we are obviously keen to avoid."
Saturday's incidents caused injury and damage to the clothing of several innocent Unitedites. Below is correspondence received from a Blade following flares thrown in the away end at Oakwell on Saturday...
Did you throw a flare on Saturday?
If so, please read this - particularly if you threw the second flare after we scored. I was sitting on the front row. To my left was my wife, my seven-year-old grandson and my daughter, together with a young disabled girl and her mother (who attend every game home and away.) To my right were two middle-aged ladies who I also see regularly at away matches. Compared to me, as mid-fifty-year-old, they were people who could reasonably be classed as 'vulnerable'.
As I turned round to face our fans, I saw your flare flying towards us. Fortunately I was able to push my wife out of the way and cover my grandson, and the flare hit me on the back, bouncing off my thick coat, singeing the fleece of the lady next to me, and landing on the gangway, so the only damage was to two coats. I realised afterwards, however, that I was extremely fortunate that the flare hadn't landed in my hood.
I am not judging you or demanding any punishment - that is for other people to decide. However, if you have been lucky enough to get away with it on this occasion, I would ask you to think very carefully about the possible consequences of what you did, and the serious injury you could have inflicted on one of YOUR OWN fans. Leaving aside the issue of a lifetime ban from the Club and other prosecution simply for throwing the flare, I want you to consider that, under very slightly different circumstances, you could well have been facing the possibility of a very serious charge and lengthy prison sentence, all as a consequence of a few drinks (perhaps) and the supposed 'thrill' of sneaking the flares in and throwing them.
I don't go to matches expecting to be surrounded by a bunch of saints who behave politely and don't swear. I do, however, expect my Club's fans to stick together and not act in such a way as to put fellow Blades in danger.
So think about it - is your matchday experience really enhanced by such actions? Or have you been lucky this time, and can you not only learn from it, but perhaps also tell your mates not to be so daft as well?
Pyrotechnic devices contain chemicals that burn at very high temperatures and are designed to be difficult to extinguish. They produce smoke that can cause breathing difficulties for everyone and are particularly dangerous for people with asthma. They're a serious health and safety risk for supporters and match officials alike, and a disaster waiting to happen.
The Club make no excuses for adopting a hard-line stance against anti-social behaviour and in particular those responsible for bringing in and letting off pyrotechnics at matches. If anyone has any information with regards to identifying those responsible, please contact us in confidence on [email protected]
SwissBlade
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Perfect if you're stranded at sea...
Billyblade
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Tell that to the bloke who let one off in the O2 at the Courteeners gig and then promptly had the shit kicked out of him by some of the people it burned.
Small Mendonca
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Flares look cool but not good for the lungs. When one was let off when we scored against Spurs, it took a week for my breathing to recover. Not good. Also, we all had a go at Fenerbahce for chucking their flares in the pre-season friendly but now some of our fans are doing the same. It's dangerous and it's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured.
LoughboroBlade
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Lovely view from the opposite end of the pitch certainly.
Here's the reverse view:
Latters
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I didn't have a go at the Fenerbahce fans. To say it was a friendly, that was the best atmosphere created by away fans I've seen at the Lane. I loved it. Maybe they shouldn't have thrown them, but other than that it was great.
oaklandrdblade
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There have been flares and last year fireworks, one of which was thrown from the back of the kops hit me and exploded at my daughter's feet. Fortunately there was no physical injury, however she worries when we score in big games that the same may happen again. The smoke bombs are horrendous for causing breathing difficulties as others have already said.
Just no need for any of it.
WhiteHawk
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Flares look great and if you're just going to stand there and hold it then I don't see it as too much of a problem. They're used in plenty of stadiums around the world without an issue. It's the fucking idiots that throw them that cause the problems.
Smoke bombs are a pain in the arse though.
Smoke bombs are a pain in the arse though.
UpTheClough
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I see the danger with flares and throwing them but is someone setting a smoke bomb off at their feet really that much of a danger to anyone?
William Henry Foulkes
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Really great statement from the club involving a really well made point from a fan. Hopefully rather than the usual threats this might make a difference. I can imagine throwing a flare bc you think it's exciting but then you see or hear about that and you rethink. Like I said, hopefully.
FWIW it's this kind of approach that makes me really glad to be a United fan at this particular moment.
FWIW it's this kind of approach that makes me really glad to be a United fan at this particular moment.
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Nobody has a problem with people holding them; if they are alone, in a locked room, with nobody in a 100yd radius who might accidentally get struck in the eye with it, etc.
It's a crowded place, of course it isn't okay to jump around like a loon while waving a red-hot pyrotechnic around! And, there isn't even an argument to he had over whether they should be legal or not, they are banned for quite legitimate public safety reasons. I'd support the right of people to do all sorts of daft shit at football which doesn't interest me (i.e. smoking a bifter in the stand), waving flares around isn't one of them!
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What stand do you sit on?
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Kop last night for the first time in a long. long time. I was scouting out some seats for next season.
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Don't sit at the back of gangway F, it's where the kids with flares are.
RedandWhite
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Flares where? I wish United had flares, no pyro no party, all I've seen is some poxy red smoke bombs, harmless
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It's not just me (and mine) I worry about. I don't want to see anyone get hurt, even the kid with the flare!
TBH I think that's a well worded open letter from the fan in the statement, I hope those who its intended for read it and take a moment to reflect on how that situation could have gone (and not just for the person who it hit!).
RedandWhite
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Completely besides the point, why would there even be a child in the middle of that? And would the Kop on a Tuesday night really look like that? it would be 12 guys with 1 flare in the middle, at the back of the Kop.
I'm not saying Flares are not dangerous, but I think the corner stand near the Kop should be a all standing area where pyro is allowed, if you think it's dangerous, don't sit there.
English football's atmosphere seriously lacks behind most European countries, flags, banners, drums and pyro should be allowed in certain areas of stadiums in my opinion.
When flares and smoke bombs are used properly they are fine with me but when you get retards chucking them then you start to encounter problems.
Also flares are completely different from smoke bombs (which we use). Compared to flares smokies are completely harmless, I reiterate compared to flares.
Also flares are completely different from smoke bombs (which we use). Compared to flares smokies are completely harmless, I reiterate compared to flares.
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if you want drums, you know where to go!
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