CONFIRMED Wilder contract extension

[Sean Thornton]

Sean Thornton

Yes. An actual post and not one you’ve had to concoct to try to back up your point. That’s better.

Just so you don’t misquote me again my thoughts on this are as follows.

If they’ve given him the new contract how far are they going to back him? Is he getting what he wants or have they just offered him a sticking plaster?

This is now more about them than it is Wilder. Many think they are a shambles rather than our saviours. This may well answer that question.

 

[ben1987]

Absolutely not a decision I would’ve made personally.

It’s hardly a decision made to tie down a really in demand manager. They could have waited 10/15 games to see how things were going.

I don’t think he’s the same manager that gave me the best times in my United supporting life anymore and I don’t think he’s the right man to lead the club forward anymore

BUT the one good thing about it is that they’ve made their decision, it’s announced and it’s one area of the club that will at least see some continuity and consistency now while the rest of it sometimes seems in turmoil.

Hopefully now that decision is made they can back their man and give us something to get behind on the pitch now because a fractured fan base isn’t good for anyone.

 

[KMC-1889]

It is possible to be against this extension without eye popping madness as you describe, and ultimately you’ve highlighted why some on here don’t welcome this news.

Wilders reappointment HAS divided the fanbase, and made people resort to petty shots on both sides.

I was against him coming back, and an extension to that contract doesn’t change my mind.

Does that mean I hate him and everything he’s previously done? No. It does mean however that I had concerns in the 92pt season, and despite being in charge for the vast majority of last season there were clear signs that his “spark” had gone. We made every team look like prime Barcelona, and despite a run of a few results in the middle, we were largely clueless.

It’s not all down to him obviously, and he steadied the ship somewhat, but those issues remain this season as to which he is a part of.

We’ve reverted back to type when the Selles experiment failed, despite him having a total of six games in charge. Promotion last season was unlikely after the start, but our season was buried with ten games to go.

We’ve now shipped out a developing player in Brooks, another who is rumoured to have some sort of issue with CW and vice versa behind the scenes.

It’s rinse and repeat and hope for the best, and it’s neither exciting or inspiring to look ahead to another now three seasons to see what happens.

But let’s not tarnish everyone with the same brush that wanting a fresh approach somehow means we’re against the club as a whole.

I don’t want the club to fail and will support them regardless, but news like this reinforces that our owners are terrified of making the wrong decision. They’ve looked at last season, now we’re arguably weaker and said “yep, that’ll do”.

As for CW, he doesn’t need to do too much. If he succeeds, great, if he fails he’ll get a larger payout until they come back again next time around.

Brilliant summary. all evidence points towards him not being a very good manager, but if you point that out you must hate the club or be a Wednesday fan?

Most i speak to at the games are just frustrated. We’ve had the perfect opportunity and hundreds of millions of pounds to break the cycle and establish ourselves as a top tier club. Teams like Brentford, Brighton. Palace, Wolves. West Han, Leeds & Sunderland have left us behind while we worship at the alter of King Chris. and for what? Tedious risk averse football and a squad most fans hate?

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

Contract extensions for managers don't mean anything. Last time they gave him one, they sacked him 6 months later.

Still, it's fun to see the usual suspects having a meltdown.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Despite the anti Wilder cult on here - few of them match goers by the way, and many of them pig fans - it's the obvious decision to make and a popular one amongst the vast majority of Blades. A no brainer for the owners who cost us promotion with their stupidity sacking him after Sunderland after the sterling work done that season in very difficult circumstances. He saved us last season and the majority are grateful. Many people wouldn't have had the humility to do that.

As it is the squad is a total mess, there doesn't seem to be much money about and the squad is already light one of our best players from last season. Those with emotional intelligence and realistic expectations will be settling for consolidation which will be difficult this season as we are shitola on paper with the possibility of our few quality players leaving. If you go into it expecting promotion it's a you problem.

 

[Bell4]

I like Chris, he's given me my best times as a United fan. However, those times were a while ago now.

I'm just not sure this extension was necessary.
He didn't actually do particularly well last year and his signings haven't been great.

If Wilder is still here in 2028, I can't imagine the club will be where I'd like it to be.
Again, nothing against Chris Wilder, it just doesn't feel like a progressive move...

I'd love to know how this deal came about. What triggered the need?

Imo

The owners need some stability whilst they either offload or find additional investment.

Swapping managers didnt work for them last time and any change in the next couple of years will require certain promises of funds available if they are to attract anyone worthwhile.

CW is a safe pair of hands with a chance of delivering salvation .

It may be that it’s under the agreement that things will be rocky , there is almost no money so we will have to make do and mend . That the devil you know is better than the alternatives and costs and promises associated.

It’s a holding job whilst the owners try to sort their shit out .

No need to face the Punters - CW will do it for them

Imo

 

[Zeblades34]

Nice and positive on here once again

 

[Blade56]

Stand by for an amazing revelation……

Mr Jelly thinks this is probably the best decision at the moment.

Don’t need another progressive manager coming in with the promise of a war chest only to find he’s stuck with Barnstoneworth Uniteds reserve team after they sell off our assets to fund the running of the club. That would put off any chance of getting the right man in when the time is right.

Don’t like it but we are where we are.

Wilder can manage a sh!t show better than most. The right man for United is out there but only if we have stability and like many my gut says there’s choppy waters ahead. So time to batten down the hatches and see if we get through the next few seasons without relegation.

 

[Cheesebored]

Pathetic.

No point in reporting you again. Once will be enough. Of course, you could DM me your reasons, or even find me at the next match and tell me how you feel directly. I am approachable and easy to find.

Good luck finding him at the Lane.

 

[brownblade]

Still can't believe we sold Brooks to Norwich.

I've lost a lot of confidence in CW and the ownership, over the last however many years... but GLTTLs.

 

[ATL Recs]

What were the crowds before Wilder came in league 1? He's the one responsible for the extra bums on seats in the first place. That's what success brings. On your other point, any manager can be sacked. We're not privy to the details of the contract and any caveats therein.

Nobodies denying Mark 1 was brilliant and built the foundations for the last 8/9 years and wonderful footy for 4 of em always respect for that
But……..time moves on football moves on we are stuck in a ground hog day with a different crap ending

 

[Carlton Blade]

It's all a bit dull really. Evidence is it'll be a tough watch, especially against the better teams but we'll have a few good matches too. Will struggle away from home, especially to score goals. Will look small. slow and unathletic at times.

Honestly, I think I've just had enough of this 'era' in general. I have a very short attention span and I've never cared about the 'one of our own' stuff, even when things were at their peak. The cult of personality, heroic one man against the world idea doesn't really appeal to me either.

I know there's a 'careful what you wish for' response coming because of Selles, but my issue is much more the club direction than the first team manager. Feels stale, lacks innovation etc.

Hopefully, there's an exciting season left in it, hover around the top half, score some goals etc. UTB

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Contract extensions for managers don't mean anything. Last time they gave him one, they sacked him 6 months later.

Still, it's fun to see the usual suspects having a meltdown.

Of course they mean something.
He can be sacked, but at the cost of paying off his contract.

As usual , some people want to make it a Wilder lover / hater thing. It isn't that for most sensible people at all.
The question is, is the best thing for the club - our club that we all support?
CW rightly gets more leeway because of what he has given us in the past. He has earned the right to show he can push us forward again.
But is a lengthy contract, right now, the most sensible decision???

 

[PrestwichBlade]

I mean, I'm sick of the sight of him to be honest, but my only hope is that it provides the stability required to bring about wholesale structural changes to drag the club into the 21st century... let's see

 

[The Vicar]

Maybe concerned Tuchel gets the push and the FA will come sniffing round wanting to appoint him until the 2034 World Cup?

 

[Cheesebored]

Nobodies denying Mark 1 was brilliant and built the foundations for the last 8/9 years and wonderful footy for 4 of em always respect for that
But……..time moves on football moves on we are stuck in a ground hog day with a different crap ending

Football moves on and currently it's leaving us behind. I don't think Wilder's the messiah and he's wasted large transfer fees on duds. I do believe he's a good manager at this level and has cobbled together good teams on a shoestring before, which is where we are again. As other's have said I'd be more worried about the ownership than the manager.

 

[Brian Deane]

Great news, now go show these moaners what's possible even with one hand tied behind your back.

Both of Widers hands were behind his back.

 

[Ron_Justice]

Personally don't really have a in issue with CW getting an extension. In the past, my cynicism around him was about modernisation. About the club needing to evolve. The replacement of Knill and hiring of Jones have shown that there's an acknowledgment from the board that things need refreshing. Keeping CW shows that they trust him to know what The Club needs, more than any other candidate, in terms of identity and stability. My hope is, that the business men at the top have seen fit to structure CW's new contract and job description into one that devolves the presence of his fingerprints all over the club. That the club is nearer to a situation where replacing a manager doesn't result in the club crumbling from the inside as it did under Selles. That roles and responsibilities have been spread across multiple positions so when personnel change, the overall organisation can function seamlessly.

I'd also like to think that CW really does have the best interest of the club at heart and has seen evidence that the board, owners and investors are going to back the club and as such he's comfortable being the one at the helm. To counter my own hope somewhat, I also hope that he's not seen the opposite, and that the board are financially fucked and he's decided to stay in place to help navigate the club through troubled waters.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

CW is probably the safest option with everything that's going off the pitch. He proved that last time around too.

 

[SwissBlade]

Great news

 

[GeorgeDonis1889]

Yes. An actual post and not one you’ve had to concoct to try to back up your point. That’s better.

Yes the first ever post of that nature to ever appear on this board. Amazing

 

[singaporeblade]

They were probably impressed that a international manager used Wilders tactics at a World Cup Semi Final.

Brilliant!!

 

[Brian Deane]

Personally don't really have a in issue with CW getting an extension. In the past, my cynicism around him was about modernisation. About the club needing to evolve. The replacement of Knill and hiring of Jones have shown that there's an acknowledgment from the board that things need refreshing. Keeping CW shows that they trust him to know what The Club needs, more than any other candidate, in terms of identity and stability. My hope is, that the business men at the top have seen fit to structure CW's new contract and job description into one that devolves the presence of his fingerprints all over the club. That the club is nearer to a situation where replacing a manager doesn't result in the club crumbling from the inside as it did under Selles. That roles and responsibilities have been spread across multiple positions so when personnel change, the overall organisation can function seamlessly.

I'd also like to think that CW really does have the best interest of the club at heart and has seen evidence that the board, owners and investors are going to back the club and as such he's comfortable being the one at the helm. To counter my own hope somewhat, I also hope that he's not seen the opposite, and that the board are financially fucked and he's decided to stay in place to help navigate the club through troubled waters.

More the latter part of your post and you forgot the last sentence of CW lining his pockets prior to another backdoor scramble when thongs don't go how he expects.

 

[Ron_Justice]

More the latter part of your post and you forgot the last sentence of CW lining his pockets prior to another backdoor scramble when thongs don't go how he expects.

Not prepared to speak negatively about an employee holding an employer to account around contract fulfilment. The fact that he's the Bladiest of them all, should have no bearing on his right to contact compensation. It's naive to suggest otherwise IMO.

 

[ekke287]

Both of Widers hands were behind his back.

All season? Half the season? When does it stop becoming an excuse and start being some of his fault?

I get it, we had a bad start and a poor transfer window. He still had 3/4 of the season to implement something, and figure out his best team.

This season he’s got less resources (money), and we’re expecting different results?

Not being argumentative, I just generally don’t understand the argument that he was completely out his depth last season due to factors outside his control. Most of the players he’d worked with some 2 months prior and had buy in to get more players.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

We are a laughing stock

Talk to fans of clubs outside Sheffield and they see us having had a really good season under Wilder, inexplicably sacking him, having an apocalyptically bad start to last season, getting him back, and him turning it around. At which point the thing that would make us a laughing stock would be not keeping him on.

 

[ChinaBlade]

Utterly depressing that no one (the club or the fans) want to move with the times.

Fans just happy to turn up at 3pm on a Saturday and have a few drinks with mates with no care for whether United compete against Liverpool or Bromley.

Fans pining for the Wilder of 16-20 when it's evident he's not at the same level.

The club spending a substantial total on shite like Cannon, Chong, McGuiness et al instead of on the infrastructure of the club.

What other club in the top 2 divisions solely puts all the weight and importance on a manager? What do we do when he finally decides he's had enough? It's such an outdated method.

Amongst these factors and a whole host of others, this club will never progress with the rest of football.

 

[KMC-1889]

Talk to fans of clubs outside Sheffield and they see us having had a really good season under Wilder, inexplicably sacking him, having an apocalyptically bad start to last season, getting him back, and him turning it around. At which point the thing that would make us a laughing stock would be not keeping him on.

so we should follow the advice of the people least informed about United? Didn't we already try that with Bord?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yes the first ever post of that nature to ever appear on this board. Amazing

And again you suggest something has been said that hasn’t.

Remember your claim that someone had called him a ham faced cunt on here? That never happened. Probably your low point on here.


I see other posters are suddenly suggesting that much of the anti Wilder stuff on here is coming from undercover Pigs. What do you think of that? Is that the case now or is it still the same anti Wilder Cult that has apparently always been here?
There’s such a thing as over egging a pudding.

Whatever anyone thinks now isn’t the time to be judging Wilders future. Little known about player recruitment or the availability of funds. Even if he has a lot to spend all transfers are a gamble as we’ve seen. He’s the manager. He’ll rightly be judged on next seasons results. Not successes and failures from the past. Christmas at the earliest although some believe he’s guaranteed to succeed. There are no guarantees either way.

 

[SouthportBlade]

Ultimately it’s probably more symbolic, a show of support and to provide some stability. Particularly after the clusterfuck of last summer.

Maybe I’m naive but I’d be stunned if there aren’t break clauses and Wilder would just get an extra years payout if he’s relieved of his duties after a poor start.

Last season I think Wilder was okay, nothing more nothing less. He inherited a terrible situation, threatened a play off push but ultimately ran out of juice. Certainly not a sackable output from CW, despite the view of some on here!

We’ve known for ages we are planning for a year in the Championship sans parachute payments - there aren’t really any excuses. Whilst we’ve got to cut our cloth we’ve still some top end championship players.

I’d say anything less than playoffs is a failure. Admittedly it’s a bit of an unknown, we could be challenging for automatic or we could be in lower mid table obscurity…